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[Willowhugger]

Ok, why didnt the mages just ditch the robes and the staffs and blend with the population?

Why wouldnt the chantry just excommunicate the templars when they broke off? It was done to the knights templars in RL.

The Chantry could threaten them with an exalted march and cut them off from their resources. Templars with no lyrium is an army of junkies without a fix.

 

1. Apparently, they did, which was why the Templars started killing random people. Isn't that the case?

2. Justinia wanted them to reconcile with the Chantry (mages too) and even if they were excommunicated, they didn't care.

 

3. The Exalted Marches are things not used lightly according to Leliana.

[Colonelkillabee]

I do it because it's the only time I get to say: "You will die by my hand... again."

 

Bad ASS

[Lulupab]

The mage side is somewhat favored based on plot that follows. Rhys and Evangeline, your decision regarding who rules Ferelden and many similar choices shines on mage side.

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

What is different for Rhys and Evangeline? 

[Ranadiel Marius]

The mage side is somewhat favored based on plot that follows. Rhys and Evangeline, your decision regarding who rules Ferelden and many similar choices shines on mage side.

O.o What do Rhys and Evangeline have to do with the mage side? You get missions regarding them with the Templars as well. Also Templars have See Barris, so IMO the story on the Templar side comes out ahead.

[EmissaryofLies]

I do it because it's the only time I get to say: "You will die by my hand... again."

 

Bad ASS

 

Wish I could have put my hands to use a bit more; subordinates getting the killing blow just didn't feel right.

 

If I put someone to death they should always die by my hand; my Inquisitor is not above killing anyone; I'm an 'equal opportunity' Inquisitor.

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

O.o What do Rhys and Evangeline have to do with the mage side? You get missions regarding them with the Templars as well. Also Templars have See Barris, so IMO the story on the Templar side comes out ahead.

 

Don't forget that Calpernia is ten times more interesting than Samson. 

[Willowhugger]

Don't forget that Calpernia is ten times more interesting than Samson. 

 

I like Samson.

 

Even if he's so incredibly far up his own ass he doesn't even realize he's a psychopath.

[EmissaryofLies]

Don't forget that Calpernia is ten times more interesting than Samson. 

 

It is such a pleasure to tell her about her crusade and then tear her to pieces.

[raging_monkey]

The only good thing about Samson is the judgement and pulling out kryptonite Dagna's rune on him.
 
I couldn't take him seriously as a villain though. This was the same guy that was 3 coppers away from prostituting himself for his next lyrium fix.

well mods can make that happen lol

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

The only good thing about Samson is the judgement and pulling out kryptonite Dagna's rune on him.

 

I couldn't take him seriously as a villain though. This was the same guy that was 3 coppers away from prostituting himself for his next lyrium fix.

Indeed, who would expect the Queen of Antiva to promoted to be a high-ranking Red Templars in charge of important tasks in Emerald Graves. I can't believe this was the same guy I bribe him with cookies to reach the Circle Tower.

[Willowhugger]

The only good thing about Samson is the judgement and pulling out kryptonite Dagna's rune on him.

 

I couldn't take him seriously as a villain though. This was the same guy that was 3 coppers away from prostituting himself for his next lyrium fix.

I assume he flat out was prostituting himself.

 

He's basically this weird Templar Meth Addict that Corypheus makes his henchman because he's completely psychotic.

I respect Corypheus for this.

If you want to do psychotic evil, hire a psycho who appreciates it.

[Master Warder Z_]

The mage side is somewhat favored based on plot that follows

 

Not even vaguely.

 

In fact the Templar Plot is about the only choice that even offers flavor text, the mage path doesn't even go do that in later quests.

 

Cassandra's Personal Quest when you go after the Seekers, You can offer input to the Lord Seeker being another demon possibly.

 

Woo.

 

Still its better then the mages which don't impact anything period.

[Lulupab]

Not even vaguely.

 

In fact the Templar Plot is about the only choice that even offers flavor text, the mage path doesn't even go do that in later quests.

 

Cassandra's Personal Quest when you go after the Seekers, You can offer input to the Lord Seeker being another demon possibly.

 

Woo.

 

Still its better then the mages which don't impact anything period.

 

She can also offer input on the mages since you hunt down both. Her doubt about seekers started way before Lambert. I heard this dialogue when I sided with mages, where Cassandra admits she opposed Lambert's reaction to Fiona's vote. But that's expected from right hand of the divine who for once stood for mages after thousand years.

 

What's the point of supporting an order which will either end up disbanded, mere puppets or reformed from the very core? The old templars will have serious troubles in either of the cases. I saw the consequences of most of my actions from previous DA games which are severely lacking on Templar side.

 

Don't forget that Calpernia is ten times more interesting than Samson. 

 

Indeed. Even the mage villains are better than Templar villains. She is not a hopeless junkie. She can even turn on the Elder one, unlike samson who still worships him seconds away from death.

[Master Warder Z_]

That had nothing at all to do with anything i said.

[Lulupab]

That had nothing at all to do with anything i said.

 

The game is quite thorough with it, Even Cassandra and Cullen become pro-mage when you side with mages. Most things and people have two sides which only one becomes apparent when you side with either mages or templars.

 

Your statement indicating there is more stuff on Templar side couldn't be more wrong. Even I didn't claim that, only the fact that many stuff we pick at the keep is directly linked to Mage side and Redcliff.

[Mr.House]

The game is quite thorough with it, Even Cassandra and Cullen become pro-mage when you side with mages. Most things and people have two sides which only one becomes apparent when you side with either mages or templars.

 

Your statement indicating there is more stuff on Templar side couldn't be more wrong. Even I didn't claim that, only the fact that many stuff we pick at the keep is directly linked to Mage side and Redcliff.

You get Calperina, a better quest, Ser Barris and Under her Skin quest. That's waaaay better then what the mages give you.

[Master Warder Z_]

You get Calperina, a better quest, Ser Barris and Under her Skin quest. That's waaaay better then what the mages give you.

 

Not to mention the extra dialogue option in the Cassandra quest which is what i said to begin with.

 

That isn't provided in the mage questline.

 

That's about the only difference i could glean to be honest in my three playthroughs, you get an extra bit of dialogue if you go the templar route in a single quest and not if you don't.

 

So pro mage hyperbole aside...you literally do get more on the Templar Path in terms of in game content.

[Lulupab]

Not to mention the extra dialogue option in the Cassandra quest which is what i said to begin with.

 

That isn't provided in the mage questline.

 

That's about the only difference i could glean to be honest in my three playthroughs, you get an extra bit of dialogue if you go the templar route in a single quest and not if you don't.

 

So pro mage hyperbole aside...you literally do get more on the Templar Path in terms of in game content.

 

There is extra dialogue with Leliana if you side with mages (obviously because she is exclusively on mage side). Stop trying please

 

You get Calperina, a better quest, Ser Barris and Under her Skin quest. That's waaaay better then what the mages give you.

 

Isn't that like a personal opinion? Calperina is brainwashed and as I said can turn on Corypheus if you talk with her. Better she joins the mages than going through that fate. Samson deserves it.

 

As for Barris, it depends on what people you want to have. Judging Alexius and getting Fiona might be more pleasant to some. Barris is a nice guy but he is uninteresting and somewhat irrelevant.

[Mr.House]

There is extra dialogue with Leliana if you side with mages (obviously because she is exclusively on mage side). Stop trying please

 

 

Isn't that like a personal opinion? Calperina is brainwashed and as I said can turn on Corypheus if you talk with her. Better she stays with the mages than going through that fate. Samson deserves it.

 

As for Barris, it depends on what people you want to have. Judging Alexius and getting Fiona might be more pleasant to some. Barris is a nice guy but he is uninteresting and somewhat irrelevant.

Calpernia was not with the mages... She was a Tevinter slave freed by Cory.

 

Also yes Barris is uninteresting but Fiona is intresting, lol give me a break. If colossal screw up leaders are interesting, more power to you, then again you also ran around telling people templars kill the Inquisitor in the epilogue.

[Lulupab]

Calpernia was not with the mages... She was a Tevinter slave freed by Cory.

 

I know but what happens when you side with mages then? Based on the information we have Cory frees her before that so the fact that she is not in his army (there is zero mention of her if you side with mages) implies she either joined the mages or left on her own and didn't need protagonist to convince her Cory is mad.

 

You missed my edit, I said "stays" which was wrong so I corrected it.

[eyezonlyii]

TBH the only reason to side with the mages is to recruit Alexius and so that Felix survives long enough to pwn Tevinter in front of the entire Magisterium.

In all actuality, I would have preferred Felix over Dorian as a companion. I feel that the relevance to the plot would have been even deeper and you wouldn't really miss anything. You could work in the fact that Felix got the Blight after running from Alexius's attempt to blood magic him into being straight, along with his displeasure with the Venatori and Tevinter in general. Then add in all the timey whimey stuff and BOOM epic comrade with more believable reason to be there.