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[Sugram84]

(what we learned, it does contain my opinion to) Flemeth called Solas Dread Wolf, in Elven Legends he Betrayed Mythal & tricked her & other gods to seal themselves away, but the truth is Dread Wolf was a Rebel God who wanted to free Elves from Slavery, Elven Nobles had other Elves as Slaves, so Dread Wolf had nothing to do with Elven Gods disappearance, well at least he did not betray Mythal, its possible she helped Dread Wolf & maybe other gods were against that, its possible that even the human God Maker was involved with that conflict, like humans & Elves worship different gods, but in their world they are not so separate like both sides think, like they ale discuss the world matters & make plans together like they are all gods for same people, & like Liliana in DAO once said, maybe we pow to same gods, but just think they are separate gods, that Maker mite be Elven God to, but she said it with different words, when Flemeth Died Dread Wolf fully awoke, but i wonder did Flemeth really die & if she did what came off Mythal who was inside her, will she new go inside Morrigan cause she is connected to her new, cause she drink from the Well, they should have added mission to learn more Elven History, the new one that is Wrong & the old one what is the truth & when its complete u can visit meany different elven Clan's & show them the truth, that they were slaves & Dread Wold is their Hero & not their Villain who took their gods away & that mission is available after u return from Temple Of Mythal, cause u learn in there a lot to  + that Well Guardian said a lot to + he will say a bit more if it would be added in game, that trigger u wanting to know more & show Elves the truth, to guide them, after that all the Elves declare ur clan the Head Clan & ur Caln comes to the Inquisition & a lot of tribes will camp at land what is ruled by u, well it is mentioned in game, cause they want to live at one place & feel the safest at ur land, if ur not a Elf then u can do that mission to & they Live at ur land & they just say how grateful they are that u recovered their history, but what u recovered not all will be revealed to u if ur not Elf, but it wont be mention in DAI anyway, unless in another DLC

 

there are a lot of theories out there, some even say that Elven god were not gods, but they were Elven Nobles, well are nobles able to do what Flemeth has done, Coriphyus came close to god & he out matches even Elven Mages, they would need army of Elven mages to beat him & also all other things what DA series as shown make this theory ferry unlikely

 

is there a ending where that Green Orb does not Brake? like maybe u half to Bow to Cor & join him when he comes to u at haven to get that ending? maybe with talking with Morrigan when she mentioned he sees u as a rival u half to say i would take the Throne of the maker to get that ending? maybe it is possible that orb does not brake, but no1 has found the way to end it like that?

[Aulis Vaara]

Tread Wolf?

Also, actual sentences, please. This is too hard to read.

[Tjoma]

Tread Wolf?

Also, actual sentences, please. This is too hard to read.

 

Sadl but true

[Sugram84]

Tread Wolf?

Also, actual sentences, please. This is too hard to read.

Thread Wolf Or Tread Wolf or Tred Wolf or what ever, i don't know how to write it, any1 who has played it should know what i mean by Tread Wolf

[OriginalTibs]

Dread Wolf. As for the Grammar Gestapo Goons, lay off. The OP likely writes English far better than you write his or her language.

 

The question is whether there is a possible outcome where the Orb is not destroyed?

[Lucky Thirteen]

The trendy wolf. 

[Flog the Undying]

The lead wolf.

[Flog the Undying]

The street-cred wolf.

[Flog the Undying]

The head wolf.

[Flog the Undying]

The fed wolf.

[Sugram84]

The question is whether there is a possible outcome where the Orb is not destroyed?

well my question was long, but that what i was basically asking yes, is that type ending possible, if not it should in my opinion, almost same ending with each char take away the fun of multiple play-trough's, i mean more different  ending rises multiple play-trough value, even Ending Epilogue has more options depending on how u play

 

& about my Lang, its not my Mother Lang, to me Eng is the easiest, but when i comes to writing i have problems with it, longer the TXT the more sure u can be there are Grammar Error's (i mean longer the TXT higher the chance of mistakes, & longer the TXT more mistakes there are), well sometime i have different problem to, like pushing the wrong key, u instead of i & the other way around to, or k instead of i, happens time to time, & sometimes when i write word, for example word With i write Wit & later when i see that i wrote like this i fix it, something like this is easy to notice

[Aulis Vaara]

Dread Wolf. As for the Grammar Gestapo Goons, lay off. The OP likely writes English far better than you write his or her language.

I work with people who don't actually speak my language every day, and I don't speak their language perfectly either. However, both groups still know what sentence structure and what a whole thought is.

I can understand someone whose mastery of English is not as good as mine, I cannot understand someone who cannot group his thoughts in some kind of logical manner. Sorry.

The fact that you think I didn't even try to understand him before posting that I can't is rude and undeserved.

Also, the fact that he uses messaging slang like "any1" seems to indicate his first language is in fact English. Small chance it's not and that he's merely had very bad teachers.

[Sugram84]

I work with people who don't actually speak my language every day, and I don't speak their language perfectly either. However, both groups still know what sentence structure and what a whole thought is.

I can understand someone whose mastery of English is not as good as mine, I cannot understand someone who cannot group his thoughts in some kind of logical manner. Sorry.

The fact that you think I didn't even try to understand him before posting that I can't is rude and undeserved.

Also, the fact that he uses messaging slang like "any1" seems to indicate his first language is in fact English. Small chance it's not and that he's merely had very bad teachers.

i uses messaging slang like "any1" cause its easier to say then the hole word any one, & its shorter, & it not about Teacher, i seem totally normal, but to say it simply i have glitch in my head (not crazy type of a glitch, i mean i have my sanity ), it shows with more difficult things, that's why i never be good at other Lang's, well Eng is only one i know

[LobselVith8]

is there a ending where that Green Orb does not Brake? like maybe u half to Bow to Cor & join him when he comes to u at haven to get that ending? maybe with talking with Morrigan when she mentioned he sees u as a rival u half to say i would take the Throne of the maker to get that ending? maybe it is possible that orb does not brake, but no1 has found the way to end it like that?

 

Unfortunately, the ending always leads to the orb breaking. You aren't allowed to join Corypheus, either.

 

As for the line about Morrigan, I believe you're thinking about the Anvil of the Void quest from Origins, where Morrigan recommends using the Anvil due to how powerful it is - which makes sense given how it gave the dwarves a century of peace, and beat back the first Archdemon.

[Sugram84]

Unfortunately, the ending always leads to the orb breaking. You aren't allowed to join Corypheus, either.

 

As for the line about Morrigan, I believe you're thinking about the Anvil of the Void quest from Origins, where Morrigan recommends using the Anvil due to how powerful it is - which makes sense given how it gave the dwarves a century of peace, and beat back the first Archdemon.

i meant in DAI when she talks about Corifyus seeing u as a rival, i remember there are 3 options what u can answer, but i remember only 2 one was yes (well cant remember the full line, i mean their words) other was no, yes meant yes to that, that u would beat him & take hes place & take the throne of the Maker urself

 

well they did fine job, but they could have done better, i mean with the game, & that is if i don't count the bugs, if i would, the i would say fine game & they should have worked more on it 

[AH37]

My take: the ancient elves said that Mythal was slain and Dread Wolf had nothing to do with it, which ultimately results in the elven history being highly inaccurate [playing the victims and hating humans]. Dorian's reaction to knowing that elves doom was inflicted by themselves and not the vints was another insight as well.

 

Talking about Flemeth, if she actually dies then WE RIOT! you can't just build a character up that no matter what you do in the previous games she's still there with mysterious agendas to kill it like that. However, my theory is; Flemeth could have willingly given the soul of Mythal for Solas to gain his power to right his wrongs, but what about the old god soul she took from Kieran? Would be extremely terrible ending for her if she just die like that. Though I doubt her dying. This is Flemeth! The old hag that never dies.

 

As for Morrigan, in my playthrough, she showed some kind of regret towards her hatred for her mother; seeking ancient secrets while the answers are within the one she left home.

 

Those are just theories made, nothing more or less. But I expect Flemeth gives Mythal's soul and uses the other one extracted from Kieran instead to continue existing, or perhaps just does the Flemeth and return

[Sugram84]

that's why i think Mythal & Dread Wolf were on same boat, she helped him fight hes cause

[elrofrost]

(what we learned, it does contain my opinion to) Flemeth called Solas Dread Wolf, in Elven Legends he Betrayed Mythal & tricked her & other gods to seal themselves away, but the truth is Dread Wolf was a Rebel God who wanted to free Elves from Slavery, Elven Nobles had other Elves as Slaves, so Dread Wolf had nothing to do with Elven Gods disappearance, well at least he did not betray Mythal, its possible she helped Dread Wolf & maybe other gods were against that, its possible that even the human God Maker was involved with that conflict, like humans & Elves worship different gods, but in their world they are not so separate like both sides think, like they ale discuss the world matters & make plans together like they are all gods for same people, & like Liliana in DAO once said, maybe we pow to same gods, but just think they are separate gods, that Maker mite be Elven God to, but she said it with different words, when Flemeth Died Dread Wolf fully awoke, but i wonder did Flemeth really die & if she did what came off Mythal who was inside her, will she new go inside Morrigan cause she is connected to her new, cause she drink from the Well, they should have added mission to learn more Elven History, the new one that is Wrong & the old one what is the truth & when its complete u can visit meany different elven Clan's & show them the truth, that they were slaves & Dread Wold is their Hero & not their Villain who took their gods away & that mission is available after u return from Temple Of Mythal, cause u learn in there a lot to  + that Well Guardian said a lot to + he will say a bit more if it would be added in game, that trigger u wanting to know more & show Elves the truth, to guide them, after that all the Elves declare ur clan the Head Clan & ur Caln comes to the Inquisition & a lot of tribes will camp at land what is ruled by u, well it is mentioned in game, cause they want to live at one place & feel the safest at ur land, if ur not a Elf then u can do that mission to & they Live at ur land & they just say how grateful they are that u recovered their history, but what u recovered not all will be revealed to u if ur not Elf, but it wont be mention in DAI anyway, unless in another DLC

 

there are a lot of theories out there, some even say that Elven god were not gods, but they were Elven Nobles, well are nobles able to do what Flemeth has done, Coriphyus came close to god & he out matches even Elven Mages, they would need army of Elven mages to beat him & also all other things what DA series as shown make this theory ferry unlikely

 

is there a ending where that Green Orb does not Brake? like maybe u half to Bow to Cor & join him when he comes to u at haven to get that ending? maybe with talking with Morrigan when she mentioned he sees u as a rival u half to say i would take the Throne of the maker to get that ending? maybe it is possible that orb does not brake, but no1 has found the way to end it like that?

You are assuming that the Dread Wolf and Mythal were "gods" in the first place. I think they were immortal and powerful elves, dreamers who slept for ages. And in legend became gods.

 

I don't think of the Maker as a separate god but as everything - the Maker is creation.

 

So Fen'Hare (the Dread Wolf)l didn't much care for the elves' lives being governed by a few powerful, immortal elves and did something about it. It trick  both camps (obviously there was a spit among the immortals which caused hostilities), into isolation - or prison in the fade. And that's what the orb is. The key between the fade and the mortal world.

 

To support this; we now know what destroyed the elves was not Tevinter, but civlil war. Tevinter was a spit back then and as we also now know, learned much of it's magics from the elves fleeing the war. In other words, Tevinter was built on the ruins of the elves. 

 

The thing I don't get is why would Fen'Hare give the orb to Cory in the first place? He says he was too weak which leads me to assume Cory took it. Which supports my statement that Fen'hare is not a god but an immortal being. Flemeth is the host of Mythal, who managed to escape the prison that Fen'hare place her (and the others in) and is out for revenge. She waited, gathering her strength, for the right time.

Now in the end, does Fen'hare/Dread Wolf/Solas kill Flemeth/Mythal or are they joined somehow?

[Sugram84]

You are assuming that the Dread Wolf and Mythal were "gods" in the first place. I think they were immortal and powerful elves, dreamers who slept for ages. And in legend became gods.

 

I don't think of the Maker as a separate god but as everything - the Maker is creation.

 

So Fen'Hare (the Dread Wolf)l didn't much care for the elves' lives being governed by a few powerful, immortal elves and did something about it. It trick  both camps (obviously there was a spit among the immortals which caused hostilities), into isolation - or prison in the fade. And that's what the orb is. The key between the fade and the mortal world.

 

To support this; we now know what destroyed the elves was not Tevinter, but civlil war. Tevinter was a spit back then and as we also now know, learned much of it's magics from the elves fleeing the war. In other words, Tevinter was built on the ruins of the elves. 

 

The thing I don't get is why would Fen'Hare give the orb to Cory in the first place? He says he was too weak which leads me to assume Cory took it. Which supports my statement that Fen'hare is not a god but an immortal being. Flemeth is the host of Mythal, who managed to escape the prison that Fen'hare place her (and the others in) and is out for revenge. She waited, gathering her strength, for the right time.

Now in the end, does Fen'hare/Dread Wolf/Solas kill Flemeth/Mythal or are they joined somehow?

in the end Solas/Dread Wolf said he could not unlock the orb's power cause hes not fully awakened, so he needed Cory to unlock it

 

Dread Wolf fought to free Elven Slaves from Nobel Elves rule, the civil war weakened them & at the end of the war Tevinter conquered them, Tevinter used their weak state to conquer Elves

 

maybe Tevinter got that crazy idea to go to the golden city from learning Elven magic & this orbs, that power got in their heads & that started it all, unless i got the timing wrong, timing of Elven fall & the first Blight

 

can immortal elves switch bodies like Mythal did? NO! only Gods Spirits & Demons can, but if it would have been spirit then it would have been corrupted by new, & she would have been crazy by new like Anders was (if Demon then she would never helped any1 with out a price), was cause he died in my game, in DA2, also God doesn't always half to be some1 who created the world, god mite just be higher being who watches over the world & keeps balance & docent respond to peoples prayers cause hes or hers job is to keep balance not help people, people can't know anything about god & what he or she wants, not even chantry nor prophets, people can believe what they want, but that doesn't mean its the truth, & even prophets are humans, & humans are flawed so, mind can also play tricks with peoples minds, that all goes for real life to, & that's why i take the world as it is & that's why i'm not religious neither, why should i be if, hes or hers job is just balance, or maybe there is nothing, not even higher being, i'm just open minded

 

also if Archdemons were old gods then its possible that there were elven gods to

[Sugram84]

but it is possible that with that orb a rift mage & a dreamer could show off enough power to make people think he or she is a god, rift magic is also Ancient Elven Magic, that's why i did male Elf rift mage, next will be same but female & romance solas, cause i want to know what happens in DA4 or even DAI DLC with them

 

about the ending, it seems Flemeth died, & Mythal went to the mirror like the other soul she put in there & Dread wolf fully awakened, if u look closely, she is putting the soul in there & later when she dies Mythal's soul goes in there to, i don't think solas is possessed by dread wolf, i believe he is dread wolf, he said he was 2weak after hes slumber, first  Ancient Elve's were able to live a lot longer & second he mentioned slumber what means he was sleeping, it could be he was able to get to the state like bears when they sleep in winter & longer hes life span even more, well it did not make it longer, but he made hes aging even slower in that state