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Where the **** are the mods?



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Where the **** are the mods?

 

Off with their families no doubt.

 

Some people here have real lives (obviously not us... XD)



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I hope people aren't actually trying to get this thread closed. I think this has been an interesting discussion and it would be a shame if it was stopped.



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I hope people aren't actually trying to get this thread closed. I think this has been an interesting discussion and it would be a shame if it was stopped.

 

It hasn't really gotten hostile yet, although we are definitely well into religious and political territory so I think we all know it will probably end up there eventually X3



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Riven326 I completely agree.


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I didn't really intend for the discussion to be political but I was under no illusions that it might be at some point. There are compelling political reasons to consider emigrating after all.

 

Keep in mind I have no idea what other countries are like since I've never been to any. It's just something I've considered recently and I wanted to hear what other people had to say.



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I didn't really intend for the discussion to be political but I was under no illusions that it might be at some point. There are compelling political reasons to consider emigrating after all.
 
Keep in mind I have no idea what other countries are like since I've never been to any. It's just something I've considered recently and I wanted to hear what other people had to say.


Just look before you leap. Not saying you shouldn't, but know what you are getting into.

To pick on a country at random, Singapore is lovely, cultured, largely crime free, clean and well run. It also has a lot of picky little laws. The natives know them, because they've lived there and so largely stay out of trouble, but I have friends who have run afoul of the local rules without meaning any harm.

There are loads of expat sites on the web that can give you a feel for what it is like to live in a particular place.

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Wat

You can't have both Sharia Law and secular law co-existing together in the same land and have both be just as valid as the other. You have to choose between one or the other.



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The only language I know how to speak is English, and I hear England isn't that much different than us, so I'll stay put.



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"Sharia Law"

 

lol



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Where the **** are the mods?


Ahh yes "Moderators" we have dismissed that claim :lol:



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You can't have both Sharia Law and secular law co-existing together in the same land and have both be just as valid as the other. You have to choose between one or the other.


I recommend you go abroad, travel, actually leave the confines of the US for a longer period of time and meet the people and experience the countries you are so quick to judge, then come back here for a serious discussion when you actually know what you are talking about. The opinions you voice are familiar, I can get them anyday if I turn on Fox news.
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Why is there a call for mods all of a sudden? Are we not having civil discourse here?

 

I recommend you go abroad, travel, actually leave the confines of the US for a longer period of time and meet the people and experience the countries you are so quick to judge, then come back here for a serious discussion when you actually know what you are talking about. The opinions you voice are familiar, I can get them anyday if I turn on Fox news.

Are you paying?


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Why is there a call for mods all of a sudden? Are we not having civil discourse here?

 

That's just a tactic to get a thread they want closed, closed. I wouldn't engage them.

 

I know because I used to do that all of the time.



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You can't have both Sharia Law and secular law co-existing together in the same land and have both be just as valid as the other. You have to choose between one or the other.


But christian fundamentalists would do exactly the same thing if they took complete control over a country, with religious laws that must be followed or else, they're the same people who see yoga as satanic & call for the death or imprisonment of non straight people

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Why is there a call for mods all of a sudden? Are we not having civil discourse here?
 

Are you paying?


No. But then again, I also do not tend to be vocal about something I have no clue about. You repeat half-truths that you get from the media. You are entitled to your opinion, of course, but a critical viewpoint has never harmed anybody. If anything, it will at least lessen these all-too-easy generalisations we tend to make in our minds. :|
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Iono this is sort of off-topic but I've worked with a couple dozen muslims in various jobs over the years and they are pretty much just normal people like anyone else. None of them seemed particularly crazy or like they wanted to blow me up. Hell, most of them are pretty decent people. 



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But christian fundamentalists would do exactly the same thing if they took complete control over a country, with religious laws that must be followed or else, they're the same people who see yoga as satanic & call for the death or imprisonment of non straight people

Still have yet to find these roaming groups of Christian radicals that supposedly roam across America. Besides for that one so called "church" that protests military funerals it really isn't a problem.



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But christian fundamentalists would do exactly the same thing if they took complete control over a country, with religious laws that must be followed or else, they're the same people who see yoga as satanic & call for the death or imprisonment of non straight people

Perhaps, but the difference is they have no power over government and resort to protesting funerals. They also don't threaten people with violence like the radical Muslims do when they don't get their way.

 

No. But then again, I also do not tend to be vocal about something I have no clue about. You repeat half-truths that you get from the media. You are entitled to your opinion, of course, but a critical viewpoint has never harmed anybody. If anything, it will at least lessen these all-too-easy generalisations we tend to make in our minds. :|

We're just going to have to agree to disagree then.



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Iono this is sort of off-topic but I've worked with a couple dozen muslims in various jobs over the years and they are pretty much just normal people like anyone else. None of them seemed particularly crazy or like they wanted to blow me up. Hell, most of them are pretty decent people. 

 

They're decent and generally nice to you. But, I found them simultaneously weird and normal. It's not their culture per se. Rather, I get a feeling Muslims so far I met live in two different worlds. They fast during the holy month of Ramadan. There's also an unspoken undercurrent of drug and alcohol use in Muslim society. Muslims whom I know drink like a fish. In a way, it's not that different from a Jew who doesn't observe kashrut. But, alcoholism is a social problem.



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But christian fundamentalists would do exactly the same thing if they took complete control over a country, with religious laws that must be followed or else, they're the same people who see yoga as satanic & call for the death or imprisonment of non straight people

 

The religious ARE OUT TO GET YOU!!!!! FEAR THEM!! THEY WILL GET YOU IF YOU DO NOT!!

 

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It's not Ferguson in and of itself that's the problem but what it has brought to light across the nation. The thin veneer of a melting pot masks a seething hatred and distrust between different racial groups and political factions. It will get worse, and as Han says the cycle will never end.

 

Hell, the country got off on the wrong foot from the start. The whole country was borne out of bad blood. Bad blood between Native Americans and European settlers. Bad blood between the colonies and the Crown. Bad blood between white and black Americans. Bad blood between Americans and Mexicans. Hell even the North and South still have bad blood between them.

 

None of this is counting more recent developments like resentment between Americans and Islam. Multiculturalism is not working out here. Yeah it's easy to talk about how many awesome friends you have of different ethnicities and backgrounds or talk about how great everyone gets along in your city or at university, but are those the exception or the rule? And how many of them are just putting on a pretty face in public while cursing you behind closed doors?

 

I don't like the tensions simmering here and I don't think it will end well. And that's just one of the many things that has me wondering if I even wanna live here anymore.

 

Eh. People will always find lines of separation and fight over them.

 

In the colonies, people resented the immigrants that were coming over, calling them ignorant criminals who were freeloading off the system and costing "real" Americans their jobs. These immigrants were German, Dutch, Irish and Italian... ethnic groups most "real" Americans trace their roots back to. Before that, it was Catholics or those who still held to the Church of England... not to mention those sneaky French in the South (before we bought the Louisiana Purchase and all). People just don't get along - period. 

 

Look at Ireland. As far as industrialized countries go, they are pretty dang homogenous. Yet they are torn by internal terrorism between Catholics and Protestants, which stemmed from Irish Catholics being forced to convert to Protestants by (then) invading Englishman. A slight religious difference that stemmed from English Imperialism, which is now centuries dead. 

 

People fight. All over the world. Our own prejudices and hatreds just seem worse because we have a front row seat, but no one is placing car bombs that intentionally kill school children, or publicly executing people because they were born a couple towns to the west or east, or because they pray to the same God in a church less than a mile up the road, but with different lyrics to their services.



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I'm gaging from this thread that the demographics of the BSN are approximately a 5:2 left wing:right wing user ratio. Just from the kind of things people are posting, and their attitudes towards specific topics. I'm under the assumption that Riven326, and Psychevore place themselves as right wing libertarians, where I stand. Of course guys you might not be that's fine.



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Guatemala?! Jeez what drove you to live there?? Flores and Antigua are ok but most of the rest...

 

I had to go see about a girl. 


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I'm gaging from this thread that the demographics of the BSN are approximately a 5:2 left wing:right wing user ratio. Just from the kind of things people are posting, and their attitudes towards specific topics. I'm under the assumption that Riven326, and Psychevore place themselves as right wing libertarians, where I stand. Of course guys you might not be that's fine.

 

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