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[Solassan]

So do we know who killed Felassan at the end of TME? Or if we don't know outright is their anyone who it's highly likely to be?

[StrangeStrategy]

I assumed it was Flemeth, on the account of the next powerful demon (You know, Xebenkeck/Imshael/Gaxkang) being named "The Formless One" and since we know Flemeth can shapeshift... Well, it could have been her?

Now, I am pretty sure its Solas.

[MetalGear312]

I thought Imshael initially, but with the whole Solas is the Dread Wolf thing I might be wrong.

[llandwynwyn]

I'm not sure it's Solas. He just woke up and Felassan has been serving this person for years now, no?

[CENIC]

I'm not sure it's Solas. He just woke up and Felassan has been serving this person for years now, no?

"Just woke up" is probably relative to an immortal being. For you, "just woke up" is five minutes ago. Solas? Five years.

[New Kid]

We never found out, but there are theories abound! I was hoping Masked Empire would have more relevance in Inquisition, it was a great read.

[berrieh]

I don't think it can be Solas, and I think "just woke up" is fairly recent because otherwise he could've amassed the power to use the orb himself. Also, don't you gain favour with Solas for supporting Briala? Whoever killed Felassan was not happy with Briala. 

 

I feel like Flemeth/Mythal is a reasonable guess, though it could be someone else we haven't yet seen. 

 

Masked Empire had TONS of influence in Inquisition, though this particular plot point did not, and we didn't see enough of Briala's Eluvians. 

[llandwynwyn]

"Just woke up" is probably relative to an immortal being. For you, "just woke up" is five minutes ago. Solas? Five years.

Perhaps, but for him to trust Corypheus Solas must've been really stupid or desperate and vulnerable. It'd be weird as well that despite knowing about Flemeth, he only went after her/Mythal in the end.

 

The way Felassan's coldly discarded with not a word for messing with their plans, gives insight to the person temperament and suggests that Felassan's life is meaningless to them. Solas is more hot headed.

 

Another thing, I believe Felassan had vallaslin.

[TK514]

Solas.  He's the only character in the game that goes on and on about how much time he spends in the Fade, and really the only one who would have a real and vested interest in getting the network back.

[CENIC]

Perhaps, but for him to trust Corypheus Solas must've been really stupid or desperate and vulnerable. It'd be weird as well that despite knowing about Flemeth, he only went after her/Mythal in the end.

The way he's coldly discarded with not a word for messing with their plans, gives insight to its temperament and suggests that Felassan's life is meaningless to this person. Solas is more hot headed.

Another thing, I believe Felassan had vallaslin.

Solas expected the Breach to kill Corypheus.

Regarding Flemeth:

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She plans for absolutely EVERYTHING. There is no way she did not intend for Solas to take her soul. I think she and Solas have different plans. Now this is just my personal speculation... but I think she gave Solas her soul to give him the power to bring back the elven gods (which he wants to do so they can help the elves) but then she's going to curbstomp them as VENGEANCE for Mythal.

Regarding Felassan:

Spoiler

Solas can remove vallaslin

[xnarcosysx]

Solas expected the Breach to kill Corypheus.

Regarding Flemeth:

Spoiler

She plans for absolutely EVERYTHING. There is no way she did not intend for Solas to take her soul. I think she and Solas have different plans. Now this is just my personal speculation... but I think she gave Solas her soul to give him the power to bring back the elven gods (which he wants to do so they can help the elves) but then she's going to curbstomp them as VENGEANCE for Mythal.

Regarding Felassan:

Spoiler

Solas can remove vallaslin

If he takes and absorbs her soul, how can she curb stomp him?

[CENIC]

If he takes and absorbs her soul, hire can she curb stomp him?

Spoiler

Horcruxes, like Corypheus's dragon or the amulet Flemeth gave Hawke at the beginning of DA2.
Her "daughters" (except Morrigan, obviously) are horcruxes of a sort.

[xnarcosysx]

Spoiler

Horcruxes, like Corypheus's dragon or the amulet Flemeth gave Hawke at the beginning of DA2.
Her "daughters" (except Morrigan, obviously) are horcruxes of a sort.

The thing is that whole thing with Hawke was ridiculous and made no sense. She gave Hawke the thing and for some reason needed revived? Why? I can only assume that that occurred before she faced of with HoF. But if the HoF didn't kill her, then why was it needed? They could have found a better way. Another thing, if she was so weak to have to live inside of Flemeth, then how can she be string enough to split her soul. She's only getting weaker and Solas would know he doesn't have her full power. Just doesn't make any sense.

[CENIC]

The thing is that whole thing with Hawke was ridiculous and made no sense. She gave Hawke the thing and for some reason needed revived? Why? I can only assume that that occurred before she faced of with HoF. But if the HoF didn't kill her, then why was it needed? They could have found a better way. Another thing, if she was so weak to have to live inside of Flemeth, then how can she be string enough to split her soul. She's only getting weaker and Solas would know he doesn't have her full power. Just doesn't make any sense.

Because BioWare gave the player the chance to kill her, they needed an out. If you didn't kill her, look at it as Flemeth not taking ANY chances.
I agree that it's odd that splintering what was only a wisp of Mythal to begin with doesn't seem to limit Flemeth's power... but to be fair we don't know much about how spirits and possession work in the Dragon Age universe... or, for that matter, what Mythal was.

[Arakat]

And who was Felassan? He has some obvious similarities/connections with Solas, but I don't think they're the same person.

 

What is even going oooon, Bioware???

[DarkAmaranth1966]

The way I see it, the sliver Hawke took to the altar was an enchanted tallisman with only enough to act as an anchor for Flemeth/Mythal to come back to this world from the fade and to have that body. Now it's a different one than DAO so, one of Mythal's own will just as Cory possibly? As for Felessan, perhaps another name for that anchoring fragment that, because of use, grew stronger?

 

Did anyone really have to kill Flemeth, she doesn't have to be dead, yes her soul left that body and might have joined Solas in that one for now, or left a sliver there so that later Solas could bring her back again, or all of her might be in Solas, waiting for a new body, or, to be taken to one she has in mind. Somehow,m i think DA4, if it happens, will still have Flemeth and, Solas too.

[CENIC]

And who was Felassan? He has some obvious similarities/connections with Solas, but I don't think they're the same person.

What is even going oooon, Bioware???

My personal interpretation:

Spoiler

I think he was an ancient elf like Abelas, but where Abelas was a servant of Mythal, Felassan was a servant of Fen'Harel.
When Fen'Harel killed Felassan in the Fade, that would have left his body behind - either Tranquil or an empty vessel, at least I think? I think Fen'Harel killed him both as punishment for failing to deliver the Eluvians, and because he needed a physical form so he could do the job right by doing it himself. He took Felassan's body, removed the vallaslin, and changed his name - to "Pride."

[I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME JERY]

I'm beginning to think it was Solas.

 

The whole book, Felassan was comparing Briala to Fen'Harel with his stories. Before he died he was about to say "I suspect you'll hate this, but she reminds me of -"

 

I'm starting to think he was going to say 'you.'

[SamanthaJ]

My personal interpretation:

Spoiler

I think he was an ancient elf like Abelas, but where Abelas was a servant of Mythal, Felassan was a servant of Fen'Harel.
When Fen'Harel killed Felassan in the Fade, that would have left his body behind - either Tranquil or an empty vessel, at least I think? I think Fen'Harel killed him both as punishment for failing to deliver the Eluvians, and because he needed a physical form so he could do the job right by doing it himself. He took Felassan's body, removed the vallaslin, and changed his name - to "Pride."

I don't think Solas would have a servant that had vallaslin, slave markings. Solas hates slavery. He hates the Qun because he considers it slavery. It's a huge part of his belief system and part of the reason he won't warm up to Dorian even when the latter tries. It's something he speaks quite passionately about. I don't think his body can be Felassan's, either, because Briala would have recognized him.

 

It could very well be a third party. Maybe he was about to say you to whomever killed him, but he also could have meant to say "Fen'Harel" by name.

[CENIC]

I don't think Solas would have a servant that had vallaslin, slave markings. Solas hates slavery. He hates the Qun because he considers it slavery. It's a huge part of his belief system and part of the reason he won't warm up to Dorian even when the latter tries. It's something he speaks quite passionately about. I don't think his body can be Felassan's, either, because Briala would have recognized him.

It could very well be a third party. Maybe he was about to say you to whomever killed him, but he also could have meant to say "Fen'Harel" by name.

You make a good point about the vallaslin. If a third elven god is involved, maybe it's the one who killed Mythal? (Falon'din?)

[llandwynwyn]

Regarding Felassan:

Spoiler

Solas can remove vallaslin

 

You miss the point. Why would Solas have a servant with vallaslin when he hates slavery?

 

 

Solas expected the Breach to kill Corypheus.

Regarding Flemeth:

Spoiler

She plans for absolutely EVERYTHING. There is no way she did not intend for Solas to take her soul. I think she and Solas have different plans. Now this is just my personal speculation... but I think she gave Solas her soul to give him the power to bring back the elven gods (which he wants to do so they can help the elves) but then she's going to curbstomp them as VENGEANCE for Mythal.

 

 

It isn't about what Solas expect of the outcome, but the person he is trusting his orb with. Flemeth's plans also aren't in discussion.

 

If he has been awaken for years, surely he'd try to reach out to Flemeth/Mythal before? They were clearly on friendly terms, since Fen'harel wasn't the one to betray her.

[Luckyanna]

I'm leaning towards Solas personally. Case in point, when Felassan is talking to this mysterious person he says: "Yes, I know. She deserves a chance". So that would explain why Solas doesn't have a problem with Briala as such - he just wanted the eluvians, not the girl.

 

You miss the point. Why would Solas have a servant with vallaslin when he hates slavery?

 

Because he's desperate? I mean, he did give the orb to Cory... That's something a desperate person does.

[llandwynwyn]

There is a difference between making a huge and foolish mistake and having a slave.

[Morroian]

Masked Empire had TONS of influence in Inquisition, though this particular plot point did not, and we didn't see enough of Briala's Eluvians. 

 

We didn't see any of her eluvians.

[CENIC]

It isn't about what Solas expect of the outcome, but the person he is trusting his orb with. Flemeth's plans also aren't in discussion.

If he has been awaken for years, surely he'd try to reach out to Flemeth/Mythal before? They were clearly on friendly terms, since Fen'harel wasn't the one to betray her.

Maybe he did approach Flemeth for help and she turned him down. Leaving him desperate enough to give the orb to Corypheus.