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Haven't made a human playthrough yet.

 

Started with elf, now on dwarf, and will do Qunari next.

 

It makes for a different dynamic, and part of it depends on choices you make regarding whether your character is Andrastian, or not. My elf wasn't.  My dwarf is not really a believer in anything-certainly not the stone, so, he's interesting to play against the true believers.  I just started the Qunari playthrough, and I'm actually toying with making her a true believer.



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I'm glad I started with my dwarf and will play all the other races before I'm finished. I really thought they made a good job of making my character seem as though she belonged.


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my trevelyan was andrastian because i thought a human (or dwarf, as others have pointed out) would best fit the willing herald part, but it's almost a little....expected.  my next human may NOT be andrastian.  i'll see how that plays out.

 

with my elf, i feel that she still fits quite well within the inquisition.  she's dalish through and through and the game gives you plenty of opportunity to express a lack of belief in the maker.  although i did almost have a fit when she didn't seem to know what the temple of mythal was during a cutscene with morrigan at the start of "what pride had wrought" >___> 



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I much prefer my Elf protagonist over my previous DA heroes (who were all human). You have the opportunity to point out you don't even believe in the Maker and don't think you're some chosen one every time someone brings it up. Being an Elf also ties into a bunch of other plot details later in the game, which you lose out on if you play as a human. Plus I just find the various Elf cultures much more interesting and fun to play as than the other races.



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I played an Elven mage who believed in the Elven creators rather than that they were Andraste's chosen. You can choose to say you are either not the herald or uncertain, and being an elf you can tell Cassandra that you believe in the Elven gods over what the Chantry says.

 

I tend to not play Human in RPGs, myself.



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I think I will never play a human in DAI, just as I did in DAO. Story is much more interesting with non humans, expecially if is with an Elf. there are as many elven plots than Andraste's ones. Maybe more and much more important.



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Ahem, after being distracted by cleavages and putting this in the wrong thread, let me correct myself and transfer this text here.

 

 

 

My first Inquisitor was human male and I do have to say that he did fit in the world quite well. I'm planning to make my second playthrough as a dalish elf, just to see if they differ in any way.

 

One question, though. There are occasions where elven is spoken and they were not translated. I deduced that it had to do with my super-stunning mage not knowin elven. Are there translations when you play as an elf?



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One question, though. There are occasions where elven is spoken and they were not translated. I deduced that it had to do with my super-stunning mage not knowin elven. Are there translations when you play as an elf?

 

i think i remember one occasion, during solas' personal quest "all new, faded for her", there is some elvish spoken.  there were no subs/translations when i did it on my human, but i got the subs with my elf.



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I played human first, then dwarf, which isn't so bad.

I do feel like human is my "go to" race for DAI. I do like some of the perks for the non-humans. The dwarf smuggler ties prove interesting. I'm sure an elven character will have better reltionship with other Dalish. I think the Qunari is also a smuggler/mercenary.

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i think i remember one occasion, during solas' personal quest "all new, faded for her", there is some elvish spoken.  there were no subs/translations when i did it on my human, but i got the subs with my elf.

if you cant speak elvish you can hardly call yourself a roleplayer


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In fact, the reaction wheel is phenomenal at allowing a variety of reactions. The general dialogue is also great.

Being non-human also helps to explain how the Inquisition is treated as heretical. You're a non-human. It changes the theme from poltics to racism. It's great.

DAI is phenomenally reactive to your background. IMO Bioware did a brilliant job.

Kinda off topic but I don't feel like searching for more proper thread for it... I feel they knocked the dialogue choices out of the park this time in general. The three tones being little more subdued and close to one another in particular. I can actually mix the lines without getting mood whiplash *and* the snarky lines are my go-to button rather than make me groan all the time. (and people even react to the jokes every now and then!) What is this sorcery.

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My Mage Elf only believed in the Creators and up-right denied being the Herald of Andraste whenever he could, he was an *Elven supremacy!* type of character. (Much to Cassandra and Sera's disapproval)

 

 

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You humans are all racist.


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For me Elf fits the best, but I can RP any race. A human noble makes the least sense to me. You're a noble, just go back to your family. Elf, well one mage too many in a clan so he has to be a mage. Qunari, a mercenary that lost the rest of his comany in the blast, no where else to go, so he hangs around to help. What I can't do is a non mage inquisitor - a non mage would be totally taken aback and terrified of the anchor, and wouldn't even know how to begin to use it.



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Kinda off topic but I don't feel like searching for more proper thread for it... I feel they knocked the dialogue choices out of the park this time in general. The three tones being little more subdued and close to one another in particular. I can actually mix the lines without getting mood whiplash *and* the snarky lines are my go-to button rather than make me groan all the time. (and people even react to the jokes every now and then!) What is this sorcery.


Absolutely agree. I have no idea what happened with the dialogue in this game, but it's phenomenal. As is the companion interaction (and I'm including advisors here).

In fact I would say that the Skyhold/Haven related NPCs were all phenomenal. There's one character in particular who I thought was a minor NPC the entire time, an irrelevant throwaway ... until one particular scene after which I would say the NPC became more of an architect of the Inquisition than either Cassandra or Leliana. One of my favourite scenes in the game.

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I like the other races - but I do feel that the options for other races often felt tacked on.  The base is definitely from a human/Andrastian perspective, and you can just occasionally say, "nah".

 

Look at the Temple of Mythal scenes.  You get your Dalish (possible First) asking questions like, "Who is Mythal" to Morrigan.  Unless your Dalish elf is trolling Morrigan it is a bit stupid.  That whole scene played out for non-elven characters.  There isn't anything "special" (2-3 elven dialogue options) for elves.  Do dwarves get more special dialogue at the dwarven ruins in the Hissing Wastes?



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Look at the Temple of Mythal scenes.  You get your Dalish (possible First) asking questions like, "Who is Mythal" to Morrigan.  Unless your Dalish elf is trolling Morrigan it is a bit stupid.  That whole scene played out for non-elven characters.

I believe these are for the sake of the player who may be unfamiliar with the game settings, especially if they didn't play older installments. Cutting these lines out based on the player's choice of race could potentially screw the player over.

And let's not forget the opposite is also true -- doesn't the human, Andrastian inquisitor get quite a few dialogue options to ask some really basic and dumb question about Andraste, chantry, the Templars and such? Stuff you'd reasonably expect such character to know, but the *player* behind that character, not necessarily.
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To me, I feel like the way my Inquisitor unifies so many different people is more impactful with her as a Dwarf. People don't expect it (many even say as much). And so it just feels to me from an RP perspective that it means a lot that she's accomplished all this.

I've taken the stance that she generally hasn't been interested in any form of religion, but as things go on her perspective shifts slightly. She's not necessarily a believer, but she's come to realize the importance that faith has in people's lives, how it changes their will to live, to fight.

For me, being a dwarf feels very impactful, and coming from the Carta background I feel that it becomes a story about someone who wasn't a natural hero, who wasn't doing good things (in fact, was up to a lot of shady things). With the opportunity to do more, she rose to the occasion, to grow.

I think it's largely on how you spin it. :)
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I believe these are for the sake of the player who may be unfamiliar with the game settings, especially if they didn't play older installments. Cutting these lines out based on the player's choice of race could potentially screw the player over.

And let's not forget the opposite is also true -- doesn't the human, Andrastian inquisitor get quite a few dialogue options to ask some really basic and dumb question about Andraste, chantry, the Templars and such? Stuff you'd reasonably expect such character to know, but the *player* behind that character, not necessarily.


As a Circle mage you get bizzaro lines like "What's it like at a Circle?" and "What's a tranquil?".

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I think the story line is better if you're non human because you get the option to always say how stupid this Herald business is. I like how npcs are always surprised to see their so-called herald is not human.



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(because the devs wisely decided to change direction and go with a new protagonist).

 

Does not seem all that wise; an enduring protagonist can do a lot to make a game series greater than the sum of its parts. If Hawke was the DAI protagonist, a well-made DAI would give people who skipped DA2 a tremendous incitement to get it and play it. If you took to "your" Hawke, obviously you would want to see where he came from, even if that game seemed to have lost its way when it came out.

 

 

On topic, I also feel non-human races, perhaps elves in particular, make for good choices. As a human you make your way through the game being appreciated by the nobility while hearing the poorer folk talk about how you were born with a silver spoon up the trapdoor. I rather prefer the perspective of an underdog or outsider, having the nobles appalled by me but forced to deal with me anyway as what I can do is just that important.

 

Unfortunately, it's very near impossible to make a male elf look good in the character creator.



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Guys, guys, I feel this should really, really be moved to the Spoiler section, please.



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Elf was my first playthrough - during which, I was really happy I played as an elf, because I thought the elf perspective was the most interesting way to experience the story during a first playthrough.

 

Playing through as a human now, I see how it's fitting, but I'm still glad i did the elf playthrough first. 

 

Just started a dwarf playthrough - only at level 3 so far, but there's been enough opportunity for me to get into character that I've already differentiated this character enough from my elf and human. 

 

So...I guess I disagree with the OP. Elf is the way to go. 



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Wrong. My qunari catch prase is basically " No, I'm not the herald of Andraste..... No I'm not divinely touched.....No, I do believe in make and I don't fallow the qun."

It feels in place.



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For me Elf fits the best, but I can RP any race. A human noble makes the least sense to me. You're a noble, just go back to your family. Elf, well one mage too many in a clan so he has to be a mage. Qunari, a mercenary that lost the rest of his comany in the blast, no where else to go, so he hangs around to help. What I can't do is a non mage inquisitor - a non mage would be totally taken aback and terrified of the anchor, and wouldn't even know how to begin to use it.

....Dude, no matter who you pick you realy have no place to go back to. There's a whole in the sky eating up the world. You have no place to run to with that.