Because sexual orientation is real while fantasy race is imaginary? Also, he was supposed to be bisexual. There are files that show he has romance dialogue with a male inquisitor. It's more like asking for them to add what was removed due to time constraint. It's not changing sexuality if he was supposed to be bisexual.
VOice files mean nothing. Hale did the same for Miranda and Tali.
Ugh liberals...
Really? That's it? That's probably one of the lamest comebacks anyone can use on the internet. You can actually express disagreement without resorting to retorts that were exhausted by Gary Larson back in 1983. Respectfully too.
Let me show you.
OT: Look, I'm not a fan of them putting back in cut content in situations like this. In fact, everything I've heard suggests that those four lines are all that's in the game's files. That tells me that this whole idea didn't get far into development. Earlier this summer, at Gaymer X, some of the writers (including David Gaider, Patrick and Karen Weeks) did mention that they tried to make a character bisexual but it "didn't quite work." As a result of datamining, it's safe to conclude that Cullen was that character.
That being said, as someone in the LGBT community, I'm completely against making any sort of change to Cullen's sexuality post release. That's what the writers felt worked in a way that seemed natural to the charcter. Yes, it sucks that an archetype many have asked for didn't happen this time (for both gay and bisexual players of both genders; Cass is also seen as a female version of this trope by many.) This isn't the last game in the IP though. Cullen is great and all, but there will be other chances. I'm in favor of having a gay or bisexual Knight In Shining Armor archetype for the next DA game.
OP, if you're still feeling down, you should check out the gay KISA thread in the Feedback section. Most of the folks that have posted in there very supportive and nice. Rather than lament on what wasn't meant to be, try to suggest to BioWare new ideas to come.
Oh and Happy Holidays!
Changing people's sexuality is sort of a bad, scary thing. Yes, they are fictional characters. But do Dorian's quest, hear his pain and anguish over what his father tried to force on him- 'making' him straight just to appease a crowd of fans would be horrible, wouldn't it?
The same goes for a straight character.
Yeah, the dialogs of Cullen with a male Inquisitor (which is what I believe prompted this thread) hurt. But it was decided, in the end, that Cullen was straight. Let it go. Iron Bull and Dorian are gorgeous and available.
If you really wish a venue for it, there's always fanfiction (and I've read some very good Cullen/Carver fanfiction- m/m stuff involving Cullen is out there, on Archive Of Our Own and I'm sure other sites). But in game? Let him rest with the sexuality his makers designed for him. Yes, he's only a fictional character. But I think he deserves that much.
It was just banter
Really? That's it? That's probably one of the lamest comebacks anyone can use on the internet. You can actually express disagreement without resorting to retorts that were exhausted by Gary Larson back in 1983. Respectfully too.
Let me show you.
OT: Look, I'm not a fan of them putting back in cut content in situations like this. In fact, everything I've heard suggests that those four lines are all that's in the game's files. That tells me that this whole idea didn't get far into development. Earlier this summer, at Gaymer X, some of the writers (including David Gaider, Patrick and Karen Weeks) did mention that they tried to make a character bisexual but it "didn't quite work." As a result of datamining, it's safe to conclude that Cullen was that character.
That being said, as someone in the LGBT community, I'm completely against making any sort of change to Cullen's sexuality post release. That's what the writers felt worked in a way that seemed natural to the charcter. Yes, it sucks that an archetype many have asked for didn't happen this time (for both gay and bisexual players of both genders; Cass is also seen as a female version of this trope by many.) This isn't the last game in the IP though. Cullen is great and all, but there will be other chances. I'm in favor of having a gay or bisexual Knight In Shining Armor archetype for the next DA game.
OP, if you're still feeling down, you should check out the gay KISA thread in the Feedback section. Most of the folks that have posted in there very supportive and nice. Rather than lament on what wasn't meant to be, try to suggest to BioWare new ideas to come.
Oh and Happy Holidays!
Ah, yes. Evolving into a bisexual is a glorious occurrence.
VOice files mean nothing. Hale did the same for Miranda and Tali.
You mean Miranda and Tali were supposed to like women too?
You mean Miranda and Tali were supposed to like women too?
I don't know about Miranda. But Tali definitely has voice files for a female character, and Hale recorded dialog for a romance with Tali. But that goes back to the first game- male Shep has dialog for Kaidan, and fem Shep has dialog for Ashley, and at least for Ash, it seems very unlikely she was intended to be bi (considering Liara already was there, and they rarely do two bi characters interested in the same gender in their games).
Rumors say the fem Shep/Tali romance was cut because the voice actress for Tali disapproved of it. But as far as I can tell, those are just rumors: I've never seen confirmation on it.
technically he was supposed to bisexual. They ran out of time
I'm curious to know why people think this. His sexuality was one of the first along with Cassandra to be announced and that was several months before release.
I know there were some sound files found but that could have just been a maybe but no.
Rumors say the fem Shep/Tali romance was cut because the voice actress for Tali disapproved of it. But as far as I can tell, those are just rumors: I've never seen confirmation on it.
One of the things David Gaider talked about at GaymerX last summer was the VAs. If a character has homosexual content, BioWare is straight up with the voice actor about it before the recording stage, or before a contract is signed with the company. There is no hard feelings if the person says no, as BW doesn't want them feeling uncomfortable.
According to Gaider, not a single VA has turned down a role that has homosexual/bisexual content. 
Clement, my Inquisitor, can't take it anymore. He must have him. I demand BW allow's Cullen to evolve into a bisexual man. So Clement, can take him out by the horse shed and do things to him I can't mention on these forums.
NO! Cullen is mine! All mine!! 
NO! Cullen is mine! All mine!!
Sorry, this immediately came to mind:
Sorry, this immediately came to mind:
LMFAO!!! Thanks for the giggles 
LMFAO!!! Thanks for the giggles
No problem, and Merry Yule to ya!
That being said, as someone in the LGBT community, I'm completely against making any sort of change to Cullen's sexuality post release. That's what the writers felt worked in a way that seemed natural to the charcter. Yes, it sucks that an archetype many have asked for didn't happen this time (for both gay and bisexual players of both genders; Cass is also seen as a female version of this trope by many.) This isn't the last game in the IP though. Cullen is great and all, but there will be other chances. I'm in favor of having a gay or bisexual Knight In Shining Armor archetype for the next DA game.
OP, if you're still feeling down, you should check out the gay KISA thread in the Feedback section. Most of the folks that have posted in there very supportive and nice. Rather than lament on what wasn't meant to be, try to suggest to BioWare new ideas to come.
Oh and Happy Holidays!
Completely agree with you on this one. I would have enjoyed Cullen as a bi romance as much as anyone but, changing this post release would be a horrible idea. And I hope there's no one who thinks of bringing up Anders or Kaidan, since that will probably cause me an aneurysm lol.
I'm really hoping the next npcs they add, will have more variety in representation, and hey, the gay KISA would be fantastic 
I think Hale and Meer voiced the lines for both genders. There's an audio file of male Shepard turning down Harkin, for instance.I don't know about Miranda. But Tali definitely has voice files for a female character, and Hale recorded dialog for a romance with Tali. But that goes back to the first game- male Shep has dialog for Kaidan, and fem Shep has dialog for Ashley, and at least for Ash, it seems very unlikely she was intended to be bi (considering Liara already was there, and they rarely do two bi characters interested in the same gender in their games).
Rumors say the fem Shep/Tali romance was cut because the voice actress for Tali disapproved of it. But as far as I can tell, those are just rumors: I've never seen confirmation on it.
I'm curious to know why people think this. His sexuality was one of the first along with Cassandra to be announced and that was several months before release.
I know there were some sound files found but that could have just been a maybe but no.
A Ex-employee tweeted about it.
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I actually think that Ex-employee wanted to stir up trouble. The tweet kind of had a smug "Oh my bad" quality to them. :/ They knew what they were doing.
This thing got blow way out of proportion. Harassing bioware on twitter about a few VA lines, not even the whole romance. Kinda embarrassing as a member of the LGBT community, I don't like to see this kind of behaviour from us.
I actually think that Ex-employee wanted to stir up trouble. The tweet kind of had a smug "Oh my bad" quality to them. :/ They knew what they were doing.
This thing got blow way out of proportion. Harassing bioware on twitter about a few VA lines, not even the whole romance. Kinda embarrassing as a member of the LGBT community, I don't like to see this kind of behaviour from us.
Agreed, very much so.
A Ex-employee tweeted about it.
Was that the protected one? And if so was it certainly Cullen that was being talked about, I was under the impression it wasn't clear, or is this a different tweet?
A Ex-employee tweeted about it.
And I find it funny that because that person claims to be an ex-employee, all of a sudden what they say it's the gospel truth. No one of the actual devs said anything about it, plus David Gaider was confused when someone brought it up on twitter which makes me think that their plan wasn't to make Cullen bisexual. I think they might have thought about it but in the end it didn't work for his character so they dropped the idea.
And I find it funny that because that person claims to be an ex-employee, all of a sudden what they say it's the gospel truth. No one of the actual devs said anything about it, plus David Gaider was confused when someone brought it up on twitter which makes me think that their plan wasn't to make Cullen bisexual. I think they might have thought about it but in the end it didn't work for his character so they dropped the idea.
They are an ex-employee they arent claiming to be one. They were one of the QA team. But It is curious as to why they made that claim
Personally I hated the "Everybody is BI in DA2" thing because it didn't feel natural. I like the fact that there are some like Cass or Cullen who are set and not BI for the sake of being BI, same goes for Sera who could've been BI because Elves are considered beautiful but that didn't happen.
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Here we go again... I'll just leave the popcorns and soda over here. It's on me.
Also, here's some coffee for the nighters.
What kind of soda do we have?
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