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[Basher of Glory]

Meanwhile I finished the game twice:

1) Human female mage

2) Dalish female rogue

 

Both endings showed the scene with Solus (Fen'Harel?) and Flemeth / Mythal. He regrets, she dies.

 

Although I tried to read anything and did not skip conversations, even less when there was elven lore involved, I must have missed the part, in which someone explained

 

1) what exactly the globe thing was and how Coryphaeus managed to get it.

2) why it was so important for Flemeth / Mythal

 

 

In all cases we saw the final death of Flemeth / Mythal, right?

 

But perhaps I missed nothing and all that stuff will be subject of a DLC or even DA IV

 

Thx in advance for replies!

 

 

 

 

[LolaLei]

The orb belonged to Solas, we don't know what he was planning to do with it but he says to Flemeth that upon waking from his slumber he wasn't powerful enough to charge it up, so he gave it to Corypheus who had been awake for sometime (thanks to Hawke letting him out of his cage in DA2) to power it up for him. Instead of returning it to Solas, Corypheus keeps the orb for himself so that he could use to breach the Fade and break into the Black City.

 

Whatever it Solas was planning to do with the orb, it seems Mythal was involved in the plan too. Solas speaks of his people needing him, who those people are is unclear. They could be other "elven gods" or maybe ancient elves? If the lore surrounding Solas/The Dread wolf holds any truth then he's likely seeking to release his people from beyond the Fade where he once trapped them (seemingly he thought he was doing the right thing at the time, lol). Interestingly, there are pieces of artwork throughout the Dragon Age series of different people of old carrying an orb, it could be that there is/was more than one.

[elrofrost]

I got the Impression that Cory took the orb. That Solas was too weak to use or defend it. Either way, the whole thing is Solas' fault. 

[Lewie]

I got the Impression that Cory took the orb. That Solas was too weak to use or defend it. Either way, the whole thing is Solas' fault. 

Flemeth said to Solas 'You shouldn't have gave the orb to Cory'. I think Solas was desperately trying to fix something, and quickly. 

 

Edit: You should not have given/gave. UGH.

[Basher of Glory]

The orb belonged to Solas, we don't know what he was planning to do with it but he says to Flemeth that upon waking from his slumber he wasn't powerful enough to charge it up, so he gave it to Corypheus who had been awake for sometime (thanks to Hawke letting him out of his cage in DA2) to power it up for him. Instead of returning it to Solas, Corypheus keeps the orb for himself so that he could use to breach the Fade and break into the Black City.

 

Whatever it Solas was planning to do with the orb, it seems Mythal was involved in the plan too. Solas speaks of his people needing him, who those people are is unclear. They could be other "elven gods" or maybe ancient elves? If the lore surrounding Solas/The Dread wolf holds any truth then he's likely seeking to release his people from beyond the Fade where he once trapped them (seemingly he thought he was doing the right thing at the time, lol). Interestingly, there are pieces of artwork throughout the Dragon Age series of different people of old carrying an orb, it could be that there is/was more than one.

Ok, thanks.

 

In which part of the game did I miss these insights?

[Ruairi46]

Called it.

[mackan__s]

Solas = Soulless ?

[TeraBat]

Those questions, as far as I know, are never really answered in the game. 

 

Solas tells you right after the fall of Haven that the orb is from the ancient elves, and he's probably telling the truth about that. Flemythal says that Solas is responsible for Corypheus' getting his claws on the orb, but we don't know the mechanism by which this happened (did Solas walk up and hand it to him? Did he put it conveniently in Corypheus' path? Did he broker some kind of bargain which Corypheus later broke?)

 

We know it's an object of great power, enough to rip open holes in the Fade when combined with whatever else Corypheus was doing to Justinia. But we don't know it's exact nature, nor what Solas was intending to do with it once he got it back from Corypheus. 

 

My personal thought is that Flemeth's body was dying, and Solas was going to use the orb to somehow save her life. But he couldn't succeed at that. Instead, he has taken Flemythal into himself - he's now the host to 2 (possibly 3) god-spirits, and his next move is to find ways to house them. I think he is grieving because he knows that being host to Flemythal will change who Flemythal is - like if getting a kidney transplant made you more like the donor and less like yourself. He knows his friend will never really be 'his friend' again, but he's still going to try and save what parts of her he can. 

 

If you go back and really pay attention to what happens in All New, Faded for Her, I think what Solas says about spirits (if you save his friend instead of killing her) is directly applicable to Flemythal's fate post-game. He says that particularly powerful spirits, and spirits which have had a great effect on the world around them, often come back; albeit in an altered form. And both Flemeth and Mythal are known to quite a few people in Thedas. I really believe we're supposed to take what he says in that quest line and apply it to Flemythal. Especially because a more accurate translation of 'Asha'bellanar' (what the Dalish call Flemeth) is not 'Woman of Many Years' but rather 'Woman of Eternity.' 

[TeraBat]

Solas = Soulless ?

 

I go with 'Solus' - sole, alone. 

[Basher of Glory]

If you go back and really pay attention to what happens in All New, Faded for Her...

Ah, now I see... I missed this quest, twice.

 

Are there certain requirements to get it?

[Shahadem]

The orb belonged to Solas, we don't know what he was planning to do with it but he says to Flemeth that upon waking from his slumber he wasn't powerful enough to charge it up, so he gave it to Corypheus who had been awake for sometime (thanks to Hawke letting him out of his cage in DA2) to power it up for him. Instead of returning it to Solas, Corypheus keeps the orb for himself so that he could use to breach the Fade and break into the Black City.

 

Whatever it Solas was planning to do with the orb, it seems Mythal was involved in the plan too. Solas speaks of his people needing him, who those people are is unclear. They could be other "elven gods" or maybe ancient elves? If the lore surrounding Solas/The Dread wolf holds any truth then he's likely seeking to release his people from beyond the Fade where he once trapped them (seemingly he thought he was doing the right thing at the time, lol). Interestingly, there are pieces of artwork throughout the Dragon Age series of different people of old carrying an orb, it could be that there is/was more than one.

 

Except that whole trapping the Elven Gods things is clearly false if Flemeth has a piece of the now dead Mythal and the old elven empire collapsed due to infighting between the elven gods.

[LolaLei]

Except that whole trapping the Elven Gods things is clearly false if Flemeth has a piece of the now dead Mythal and the old elven empire collapsed due to infighting between the elven gods.

 

Doesn't mean it's false, Mythal may have been working with him when he done it, or managed to some how avoid being trapped. It's suggested throughout via Cole's reading his thoughts and stuff that he'd done something to his friends to protect them, suggesting that he did indeed trap them somewhere but that he thought what he was doing was right at the time.

[TeraBat]

Ah, now I see... I missed this quest, twice.

 

Are there certain requirements to get it?

 

It's the personal plot quest for Solas. You get it by talking to him once you reach Skyhold; but it won't start unless his approval is at a certain level. 

 

Also, it doesn't reveal anything directly about the orb/Mythal/etc. Just a lot of implications. 

[Basher of Glory]

... but it won't start unless his approval is at a certain level. 

 

Now, then this is a tedious one.

 

I discussed all his points in the various dialogue trees, earned mostly slight approval, but obviously not enough. Now I have just the option to tell him

"I must go".

 

Really, why isn't there anything which shows the current approval... or did I miss something?

[Fredward]

It's the personal plot quest for Solas. You get it by talking to him once you reach Skyhold; but it won't start unless his approval is at a certain level. 

 

Also, it doesn't reveal anything directly about the orb/Mythal/etc. Just a lot of implications. 

 

What implications? Man I'm oblivious.

 

Anyway from what I got from the ending it seems Solas GAVE the orb to Corypheus for whatever frickin reason, I think they wanted the Tear but maybe not for things to play out exactly like they did. I don't know whether Solas killed Flem/Mithra or whether she possessed him but he IS the god of trickery so... Mmmmm. At the same time their relationship seemed more complicated than simply betrayer/betrayed. I don't know. It was a weird ending.

[TeraBat]

What implications? Man I'm oblivious.

 

 

Basically, that even if Flemythal "died" in the ending scene, she will still return in some form or another; because her spirit is powerful and well-known by many. 

[Arlee]

Basically, that even if Flemythal "died" in the ending scene, she will still return in some form or another; because her spirit is powerful and well-known by many. 

 

Yea my husband thinks he just put her into a slumber, but with her body turning all black and stuff I feel like it's unlikely to be the case.

[Navasha]

Well, one of the nice twists in that last scene is it is written for both 'Flemeth' or 'Solus' to be the aggressor.   

 

Also, as far as the orb and Cory...  my personal impression is that Solus sought to trick cory into unlocking it for him.    Figuring that he could easily get it back once it was unlocked.    However, the unlocking of it caused it to explode.  

[Vader20]

The ending made me feel that Solas might be our next villain in a DLC...

[ghilbrae]

The ending may have many readings. Much of the lore we learnt in the other two games is now being questioned, about the elves, the gods, and even about Andraste and the Maker. So lots of new questions!

 

I found this article were some of the theories going around are summarized. It is a fun read, full of spoilers but that opens many more possibilities. Is Solas our new bad guy? Is Solas misunderstood? 

 

http://kotaku.com/dr...ined-1671137779

[High Inquisitor]

I go with 'Solus' - sole, alone. 

 

Solas actually means "Pride" in elvish"

 

EDIT: It gives meaning to the quest title "What Pride had wrought"

[Incanus]

Im just a little bit sad that Flemeth was so easily killed in an ending cutscene. It doesn't give her character any credit really all that hinting and foreshadowing in all 3 games just vanish and get replaced with Solas.

 

Also can Solas now order the Inquisitor/Morrigan around because of the well or did that plot point got killed along with Flemeth?

[Arlee]

Im just a little bit sad that Flemeth was so easily killed in an ending cutscene. It doesn't give her character any credit really all that hinting and foreshadowing in all 3 games just vanish and get replaced with Solas.

 

Also can Solas now order the Inquisitor/Morrigan around because of the well or did that plot point got killed along with Flemeth?

 

The thing is, if Solas did kill her she let him. She had no intention of fighting against him at all so there has to be some point to it. Rather than making her less it makes her more because she was willing to die (apparently) to help him. It'll be interesting to see what that reasoning is/what really happened there.

[Kierro Ren]

Meanwhile I finished the game twice:

1) Human female mage

2) Dalish female rogue

 

Both endings showed the scene with Solus (Fen'Harel?) and Flemeth / Mythal. He regrets, she dies.

 

Although I tried to read anything and did not skip conversations, even less when there was elven lore involved, I must have missed the part, in which someone explained

 

1) what exactly the globe thing was and how Coryphaeus managed to get it.

2) why it was so important for Flemeth / Mythal

 

 

In all cases we saw the final death of Flemeth / Mythal, right?

 

But perhaps I missed nothing and all that stuff will be subject of a DLC or even DA IV

 

Thx in advance for replies!

 

Titles wrong, but if you go in the comments, click the 42 replies to Kathryn Horne's and find Kathryn Horne's 92 line reply. It's nicely thought out.