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[Bayonet Hipshot]

So I am curious as to is there any benefit for the Inquisitor to drink from the Well of Sorrows ?

 

I mean, can we translate obscure Elven writings better or something ? Because if you let Morrigan drink it, there is supposed to be a scene where she talks about how much the Well of Sorrows reveals to her about the Eluvians, Ancient Elves and Arlathan. 

 

As for becoming enslaved by Flemeth / Mythal, I think that is not what really happens. What happens is you sort of become her Champion. A Champion that is bound to her for eternity. If you are a personal slave, Flemeth does not seem to treat you like one.

 

The whole "enslaved by Mythal" thing reminds me of Nocturnal and Hermaeus Mora in Skyrim.

 

Technically, if you choose to become a Nightingale, you are enslaved to Nocturnal for all eternity and your soul will guard her sanctum.

 

Technically, with Hermaeus Mora, you become his Champion and he technically has his leash on you in the same way he did with Miraak, until you replaced Miraak. 

 

The same goes with Mythal. Technically, if you drink from that Well, you get knowledge from across the ages and in exchange you have to be Mythal's Defender or Champion. 

 

However, these are not true enslavement is it ? You are just given power and knowledge in exchange of servitude. Slaves do not get goodies. Slaves do not get paid. Slaves definitely do not get power. Slaves do not get knowledge either. 

 

Thoughts & comments ? 

[herkles]

IMO what occurs when you drink from the well is that you get a Geis on you to not disobey Mythal. Geis, or Geas, are common throughout Celtic Mythology. A geis is a magical spell and taboo. Most heroes and Heroines in celtic mythology tended to get at least one, they could have multiple. A geis doesn't mean you are a mindless slave, and you can break it or disobey, but when you do bad things happen to you, ie death is the most common out come.

 

 Cuchulain for example had the geis of not eating dog meat, but also another of not refusing what was offered when he was a host. Naturally this was exploited and he died. Diarmund was said to have a Geis on him to obey Grainne who he fell in love, but also one to not kill a special boar, when years later he went to recouncil with Fionn Macchumuil they hunted that exact boar and he died as a result.

 

I see the Well to be similar. You or Morrigan have a geis on you to obey Mythal. Since the Sentinals tend to do Mythal's work, they don't come into conflict that much but that doesn't mean they can't or that they can't have lives outside of their duties, it just means that if they disobey magical forces will bring harm to them. Considering that elves tend to have celtic influences, this is one thing I like as it is a part of celtic mythology you don't see as much IMO.

[Moirnelithe]

I figured that by drinking from the well you implicitly gave permission for Flemmeth to make you one of her 'daughters'. Meaning she can take over your body when her old body dies (gosh and that didn't just happen did it?)

[SamanthaJ]

You can translate elven writings better. There are a few codex entries that you can only read if you drink from the well.

[Shahadem]

What I don't get is why my Dalish Elf wasn't able to translate the ancient elvish writing by herself. I mean isn't that what Dalish elves do?

 

And the Geas idea doesn't work with Dragon Age lore and how magic is supposed to work and what magic is supposed to be.

[Asakti]

What I don't get is why my Dalish Elf wasn't able to translate the ancient elvish writing by herself. I mean isn't that what Dalish elves do?

 

And the Geas idea doesn't work with Dragon Age lore and how magic is supposed to work and what magic is supposed to be.

 

I think because it is ancient elvish.  Though I thought Keepers/Firsts knew ancient elvish.  So it could be just another forgotten thing - the dalish Inquisitor doesn't get much special dialogue in the Temple of Mythal scenes.

[Nightdragon8]

I think because it is ancient elvish.  Though I thought Keepers/Firsts knew ancient elvish.  So it could be just another forgotten thing - the dalish Inquisitor doesn't get much special dialogue in the Temple of Mythal scenes.

basicly its like asking a jewish person to translate ancient Hebrew, not alot of people can.

 

And in this case really the amount of 'ancient elvish' that is still around is a small fragment of what is out there.

 

Edit: Heck ask people to read Old English, and they will call you a lier, because it doesn't look anything like modern english. They think "old english" is the whole Thee's and Thy's from shakespear.

[SandiKay0]

Did each area also have a different dialect as well? Old English I mean.