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[The Mad King]

Who else think that the Architect should have gotten involved instead of being forgotten? He's cunning and know what's he's doing. Corypheous just striked me as a dumb magister that lost his mind in his quest for power. 

 

 

[Ruairi46]

"Hey guys we're gonna make the architect who is totally kill-able come back and be the antagonist for inquisition. The players will be all about that ****."

[The Mad King]

Yeah that didn't work much for Corypheous right? 

[robertthebard]

Yeah that didn't work much for Corypheous right?

I guess they should have added "I'll be back" at the end of Legacy. That's the only thing missing to clue one in to the imminent return, oh, aside from "the events in Legacy will happen, whether you own the DLC or not".

[Alan Drifter13]

The Architect was (according to himself) not trying to be evil, but to turn the darkspawn into something better.

 

I still killed him in Awakening, but my point is, he wouldn't have worked as a crazy villain trying to take over the world. At least not the way he acted in Awakening.

[Darkly Tranquil]

They totally wasted the Architect in Awakening, he was far to interesting an antagonist to kill off so soon. He deserved an entire game dedicated to fighting him, not an add-on. It seems like they always introduce interesting characters in the novels, and then deal with them in fairly unsatisfying ways in the games. Maybe Corypheus might have seemed less boring if he had featured in a book and we got to delve into his story more.

[Alan Drifter13]

Corypheous is a "I'm gonna become a god and kill you all villain". Architect wasn't a "villain" villain, he'll probably have something to do with whatever the HoF/Hawke are up to with the Grey Wardens. Either in a DLC/Expansion or DA4

 

He can't be involved unless they have another character who can come back from the dead just like that. And I think they brough enough characters back from the dead already.

 

Speaking of which, how is Leliana justified for people who killed her in DA:O?

[RawToast]

Yeah Archetict would have been better imo. But he isn't exactly the type to blow a hole in the sky and try to be god. He just wants to stop the blights and give darkspawn sentience.  Not to mention the fact that he's killable.

 

Coryphinuts could have been a compelling villain if they had spent more time developing him out side of codex entries and war table missions. There was a good villain there. But his potential was squandered.

 

He can't be involved unless they have another character who can come back from the dead just like that. And I think they brough enough characters back from the dead already.

 

Speaking of which, how is Leliana justified for people who killed her in DA:O?

 

She isn't. She states that she was dead but she somehow came back to life.  I'm honestly surprised they didn't go with the sacred ashes revived her excuse.

[schall_und_rauch]

They totally wasted the Architect in Awakening, he was far to interesting an antagonist to kill off so soon.

 

The report of his death was greatly exaggerated.

[Jester]

Well they did kill Cory in a DLC and he came back. I've noticed lately Bioware has a habit of bringing things back from the dead.

He didn't die in Legacy. I mean, it was so obvious that he body jumped to Larius/Janeka...

I was in shock that after Legacy, there were actually people who thought that Corypheus died. 

 

Architect on the other hand has never even been hinted to be alive - as contrasted to Corypheus, who would have to get a DLC ending credit line "I'm alive you morons" to make it any more obvious.

 

And beside that, I agree with most of the people before me. Architect just doesn't fit this story line - he was never out for personal power. 

[Darkly Tranquil]

Being dead in Dragon Age is apparently like being dead in Azeroth. It's merely a setback.

[Aulis Vaara]

Yeah Archetict would have been better imo. But he isn't exactly the type to blow a hole in the sky and try to be god. He just wants to stop the blights and give darkspawn sentience.  Not to mention the fact that he's killable.

He is the kind who would blow a hole in the sky to find answers to the Taint, however.

It would also be interesting if killing him actually returned his memories. Might give him a character clash.

She isn't. She states that she was dead but she somehow came back to life. I'm honestly surprised they didn't go with the sacred ashes revived her excuse.

The ashes are corrupted in that scenario. So they could hardly be responsible. Unless that decision doesn't matter either.

[Aulis Vaara]

Being dead in Dragon Age is apparently like being dead in Azeroth. It's merely a setback.

Only if you're a Tainted Magister, Old God, or Leliana or *shudder* Anders. Most of them have good reasons to survive. In fact, how you killed Cory is stupid, he should still be alive. He's not bloody Voldemort.

[Catastrophy]

I don't know - it feels a bit weird mixing up the Matrix and Dragon Age.

[Fearsome1]

 Maybe Corypheus might have seemed less boring if he had featured in a book and we got to delve into his story more.

 

Yep! A grand opportunity to flesh this character out in a novel prior to Inquisitions release should have been the order of the day. The biggest difference between the Architect and Corypheus possibly returning is that in Legacy, we saw the implied moment where the "Elder One" seemingly took possession of the Warden character that we had sided with.

 

What was foolishly missing from the Inquisition equation was how Larius or Janeka physically transformed into the living embodiment of Corypheus? Frankly if I were to choose to truly be angry about a deletion, and I doubt such a scene was even made by Bioware, it would be this one thing. A cut scene showing how this metamorphosis occurred was not only necessary, but in my opinion demanded. But we got other?

[Sah291]

I loved the Architect and hope to see him again, but I don't think so...he is a very different kind of villain and has no interest in becoming a god or ruling anything, so he wouldn't fit into that role. In many ways he is the anti Corypheus. Which might make him a good villain for the future. But with Cory I think he was really supposed to be a throwback to an earlier age....the last desperate attempt of the old world order to regain control.

[Saiphas85]

So, corpyheus means "the conductor" and was the titles he chose after the conpletion of dumats claw. What if "the architect" was the titles one of the other 7 chose?

[Grieving Natashina]

Yep! A grand opportunity to flesh this character out in a novel prior to Inquisitions release should have been the order of the day. The biggest difference between the Architect and Corypheus possibly returning is that in Legacy, we saw the implied moment where the "Elder One" seemingly took possession of the Warden character that we had sided with.

 

What was foolishly missing from the Inquisition equation was how Larius or Janeka physically transformed into the living embodiment of Corypheus? Frankly if I were to choose to truly be angry about a deletion, and I doubt such a scene was even made by Bioware, it would be this one thing. A cut scene showing how this metamorphosis occurred was not only necessary, but in my opinion demanded. But we got other?

<mashes the Like button in vain>

 

I'm not angry about this, but I would have loved to have seen it.  The reason why I picked Larius is because I wanted to get an idea of the reaction I suppose. Cory-Janeka was probably able to lie low until the transformation, since he was in the body of a normal looking woman.  Cory-Larius would have been interesting, considering what kind of condition he was in.  As brutal as it might have looked, I would liked at least a scene of them becoming Cory.  Or at least more than a mention by Bianca saying that Janeka or Larius was the one she sold the red lyrium location to.

[o Ventus]

Being dead in Dragon Age is apparently like being dead in Azeroth. It's merely a setback.

Except dead people in Warcraft tend to stay dead. Resurrection is rare and barely happens at all.

[Lucky Thirteen]

 This is a story about Faith on all kinds of levels. About Corypheus' faith, and about your own faith or lack thereof (in the Herald title).

 

 

This is a story about lying to make one self comfortable instead of facing the hard, cold truth of reality. Eventually, the hard, cold truth of reality can catch up to the people lying to themselves and the end result is not pretty.

 

All that needs to happen now is something horrible beyond the Inquisitors control and all those people singing the songs to the herald of Andraste will turn on the Inquisitor in a heart beat. 

[Grieving Natashina]

Except dead people in Warcraft tend to stay dead. Resurrection is rare and barely happens at all.

Muradin (he appeared quite dead in WC3), Prince Kael who was killed by player at Tempest Keep, and was brought back to life by demons, Kel'Thuzad that was an end game raid boss twice, once for the original 60man Naxx from vanilla WoW, once for WotLK.  Those are just the ones I remember off the top of my head.  It was Kael himself that said, "TEMPEST KEEP WAS ONLY A SETBACK!"  I used to solo the place for the phoenix mount (at level 90) before I quit the game a little over 2 years ago.

 

I almost forgot.  As of Cataclysm, we can now add Sylvanas to that list as well.  The devs confirmed it after a certain quest in Silverpine.  If you haven't yet, check out the Silverpine Forest quest chain, it's really good.

 

My apologizes for the derail.