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[Lulupab]

Is not like it wasn't undeserved, the elven army slaughtered their way to VR likely doing the exact same thing to any human villages they came across

 

Still happened.

[EmissaryofLies]

I still like the Legion...

 

They got some swagger, I'll give em that. Caesar's not a bad guy aside from the slavery, torture, and slaughtering bits. 

[Steelcan]

Edited, I meant Ferelden. Either way because its a war and pleasure killing and rape are normal YOU must provide proof that it didn't happen, not me.

no you have made a claim, the burden of proof is on those who put forth the claim

[Master Warder Z_]

You don't count. lol

You don't count!

[Master Warder Z_]

They got some swagger, I'll give em that. Caesar's not a bad guy aside from the slavery, torture, and slaughtering bits.

Honestly his antithesis speech was awesome.

Wish my courier wasn't as idiotic as a bag of sand they could have had a proper conversation.

[Colonelkillabee]

You don't count!

One two three four, Caesar's legion is no more.

 

Your argument is invalid.

[EmissaryofLies]

You don't count!

 

He counts!

[Lulupab]

no you have made a claim, the burden of proof is on those who put forth the claim

 

Its not a claim to point out war crimes that happen in great majority of wars. Its you who claim they didn't in other words you mean the Dales war is a very small minority of wars without its war cimes. By very static of how often these crimes happen in war, you are the party who should provide proof. This is how it works in courts. Waiting for your proof, I have mine. The codex entry at arbor wilds, you don't even have that.

[raging_monkey]

 
He counts!

seriously seseame street was the ghetto and hes a pimp

[Steelcan]

Its not a claim to point out war crimes that happen in great majority of wars. Its you who claim they didn't in other words you mean the Dales war is a very small minority of wars without its war cimes. By very static of how often these crimes happen in war, you are the party who should provide proof. This is how it works in courts. Waiting for your proof, I have mine. The codex entry at arbor wilds, you don't even have that.

you put forth a claim "mass rape and mass genocide happened" your evidence is "it happens in war"

 

that codex entry doesn't say that the elves were killed after surrendering, it does not say they were raped.

 

 

You have nothing beyond your own bias

[EmissaryofLies]

seriously seseame street was the ghetto and hes a pimp

 

Chappelle's bit on that makes me laugh every time.

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

Still happened.

&...? if the elven army had won the war they'd have likely done worse then whatever Orlais did considering the main belief was "humans are a plague to our people & took our eternal life away" would have likely slaughtered every human who weren't fast enough to escape & created a new elven empire

[Colonelkillabee]

Chappelle's bit on that makes me laugh every time.

And I say... **** IT.

 

My motto since I left the womb.

[Master Warder Z_]

One two three four, Caesar's legion is no more.

Your argument is invalid.

o.o but it has regional overseers, officials and generals.

None of were present in the disputed Mojave.

Pity we never got to see it.

[thesuperdarkone2]

o.o but it has regional overseers, officials and generals.

None of were present in the disputed Mojave.

Pity we never got to see it.

So you have no problem with women being treated as nothing better than sex slaves? 

[Colonelkillabee]

So you have no problem with women being treated as nothing better than sex slaves? 

I'm more concerned with all the bitches wearing short skirts. Seriously, if you don't got them threads, I ain't rollin witchyou, red.

 

LOL. Jokes aside, they really do look ****** stupid. Rangers are dripping in badass. Too bad they're sided with those bitches back at Cali.

[Master Warder Z_]

So you have no problem with women being treated as nothing better than sex slaves?

In Fallout?

Under the Legion it's done for reproductive needs, you need a steady population for military and work requirements.

Beyond that Sawyer covers this in his interview.

Life under the Legion outside of a war zone is stable, secure,safe.

[Lulupab]

you put forth a claim "mass rape and mass genocide happened" your evidence is "it happens in war"

 

that codex entry doesn't say that the elves were killed after surrendering, it does not say they were raped.

 

 

You have nothing beyond your own bias

 

You mean a codex that indicates a Templar who killed elves for pleasure becoming a saint? yeah it doesn't say when but he did become a saint for it. You have nothing either. War crimes happen in 90% of the wars. So there is 90% chance I am right. 

 

I enjoyed this really. "You have nothing but your own bias". How amusing to challenge something that happens in majority of wars, then go on and call someone biased for sticking to the most probable epilogue of a war. And Orlais is a country that have raped and killed for pleasure before, and their targets were humans (Ferelden) and they STILL RAPED AND KILLED AFTER FERELDEN SURRENDERED. Elves still get raped and killed to this very day. Its fallacy to think elves get raped and kill after 700 years have passed but it didn't happen on fall of Dales.

 

You need to try harder, wait. Were you even trying?

[Steelcan]

You mean a codex that indicates a Templar who killed elves for pleasure becoming a saint? yeah it doesn't say when but he did become a saint for it. You have nothing either. War crimes happen in 90% of the wars. So there is 90% chance I am right. 

 

I enjoyed this really. "You have nothing but your own bias". How amusing to challenge something that happens in majority of wars, then go on and call someone biased for sticking to the most probable epilogue of a war. And Orlais is a country that have raped and killed for pleasure before, and their targets were humans (Ferelden) and they STILL RAPED AND KILLED AFTER FERELDEN SURRENDERED. Elves still get raped and killed to this very day. Its fallacy to think elves get raped and kill after 700 years have passed but it didn't happen on fall of Dales.

 

You need to try harder, wait. Were you even trying?

So you still have no direct proof, beyond your own assumptions

 

noted once again

[raging_monkey]

Chappelle's bit on that makes me laugh every time.

because its true. Cookie-monster was on crack and i assume heroine, cookies dont do that and oscar is the homeless guy yanking it in the street XD

[Lulupab]

So you still have no direct proof, beyond your own assumptions

 

noted once again

 

LOL. This is the part you gracefully leave. Based on the mercy they have shown to their own race, its quite obvious. You should provide proof and you have nothing, less than nothing.

 

At least now you used the work "direct" so its something. Its better than your less than nothing. Indirect but quite solid. Elves have killed and raped during 700 years, it had to be worse at the start. Second its a usual thing for Orlais.

 

You didn't try, again.

[TheJediSaint]

In Fallout?

Under the Legion it's done for reproductive needs, you need a steady population for military and work requirements.

Beyond that Sawyer covers this in his interview.

Life under the Legion outside of a war zone is stable, secure,safe.

High praise for a gloried gang.

[Steelcan]

LOL. This is the part you gracefully leave. Based on the mercy they have shown to their own race, its quite obvious. You should provide proof and you have nothing, less than nothing.

 

At least now you used the work "direct" so its something. Its better than your less than nothing. Indirect but quite solid. Elves have killed and raped during 700 years, it had to be worse at the start. Second its a usual thing for Orlais.

 

You didn't try again.

Show me proof

 

war crimes trials aren't carried out because "it happens" in war, there has to be proof

[thesuperdarkone2]

Show me proof

show me proof that Gaspard is better than Celene and Briala reconciled or Celene with Briala and Gaspard executed.

[Lulupab]

Show me proof

 

This is borderline pathetic now. A good debater knows when to quit.

 

I did in fact provide proof. Based on Orlais's history and how elves are treated and what happened at wars and the fact that Dales were utterly destroyed there is less than 1% chance that elves were not killed and raped for pleasure. your turn.

 

Give me the most indirect proof you can to show Elves were not killed for pleasure or rape.