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#1051
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Whereas in LOTR Humans are superior to elves because they were created by god himself (Eru Iluvatar) Whereas elves are just created by the Angels (Valar)

No, dwarves were created by Aule a valar for he grew tired of waiting for the first born (elves) to appear in Middle Earth.

Elves are the first born children of Eru Illuvatar. Humans are the second born.



#1052
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All of this arguing is redundant. Everyone knows Argonians are the master race.


The Hist, maybe. Argonians got their asses handed to them by the Dunmer who were half destroyed already from Red Mountain when the Hist got bored and left them to their own devices. The Hist is also the only reason they whooped the Daedra's asses so thoroughly.

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Are you simply incapable of addressing the point?  Even if the 'average' Altmer lifespan is only 200 years, with them dying in their prime due to violence or illness, they are still capable of being matched or outclassed on an individual basis by humans, whose prime years are roughly 1/10th to 1/5th of that span.

 

I could ask the same. Is it hard to understand the humans have more people at their prime age and fully trained for war?. And you can see the truth of what I said due to empire losing heavily to dominion and barely turning things around at the siege of imperial city. Altmer had time to breathe and they were capable of taking humans on, despite the lesser numbers.



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The Hist, maybe. Argonians got their asses handed to them by the Dunmer who were half destroyed already from Red Mountain when the Hist got bored and left them to their own devices. The Hist is also the only reason they whooped the Daedra's asses so thoroughly.

im still confused on what the **** the hist is

#1056
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Eh, I was actually referring to the Altmer from TES.

 

Though I had no idea the Dalish had their religion outlawed nor that they were hunted.  Source?

 

Morrigan in Inquisition brings up that the nobles of Orlais consider it a sport to hunt Dalish. 

 

As for the bit of their religion being outlawed, here it is. http://dragonage.wik...note-prima343-0

 

It cites the Dragon Age Origins collector's edition guide and World of Thedas as the source that all worship of the creators was banned, and also points out that the Chantry decreed elves who submitted to them after the fall of the Dales had to live in alienages, and called it a blessing that they weren't exterminated to the last. 


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They are the purest form of Ehlnofey on Tamriel because they still have the ability, and their god is actually alive, immortal and is benevolent. So there is that.

lolno, lolno, and lolno.

 

wtf is a pure Ehlnofey by the way? To be anal, the closest to the Ehlnofey on Tamriel are the Altmer, and only because they are the closest to the Aldmer, who in turn were the Old Ehlnofey descendents who tried to remain as close to what was before. Being closer to the Ehlnofey does not make one superior. Finally, Ehlnofey aren't like the Et'Ada of the Dawn Era. They were pro-humans and elves, some even being shown recently. The Aedra that became Ehlnofey aren't even up for discussion, because Bosmer losing shape does not make them comparable to them. It just means they have the same lack of self-control they did. If spirits wanted to be formless, they would try to bring stasis and you know, keep forms. 



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We talkin' bout practice, not a game, the actual game, we talkin' bout practice.



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im still confused on what the **** the hist is


Whatever the **** it wants to be, lol. And honestly, I'm not even joking.

Boring answer is Sentient trees.

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im still confused on what the **** the hist is

 

Tree gods be worst gods.



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The joined the dominion to stop humans meddling in their land. 

Actually, Valenwood was absorbed into the 3rd Aldmeri Dominion when the Thalmor and their Bosmeri associates launched a coup and removed the Empire and its supporters from power.


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Tree gods be worst gods.

 

What about rhyming oaks?



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The Dalish are gonna join the Thalmor.



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I could ask the same. Is it hard to understand the humans have more people at their prime age and fully trained for war?. And you can see the truth of what I said due to empire losing heavily to dominion and barely turning things around at the siege of imperial city. Altmer had time to breathe and they were capable of taking humans on, despite the lesser numbers.

So you are either incapable or unwilling to address the fact that an individual human can be better than an individual Altmer in a fraction of the lifespan.

 

Got it.


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lolno, lolno, and lolno.

 

wtf is a pure Ehlnofey by the way? To be anal, the closest to the Ehlnofey on Tamriel are the Altmer, and only because they are the closest to the Aldmer, who in turn were the Old Ehlnofey descendents who tried to remain as close to what was before. Being closer to the Ehlnofey does not make one superior. Finally, Ehlnofey aren't like the Et'Ada of the Dawn Era. They were pro-humans and elves, some even being shown recently. The Aedra that became Ehlnofey aren't even up for discussion, because Bosmer losing shape does not make them comparable to them. It just means they have the same lack of self-control they did. If spirits wanted to be formless, they would try to bring stasis and you know, keep forms. 

 

Who said about superior? I mean I said Altmer have more birthrights but I didn't say that about Bosmer. And pure here means they are direct ascendants, Altmers were Aldmers first and so on. Bosmer are directly ascended and due to that fact that they couldn't hold their shape because in dawn era many couldn't they are more pure and unchanged since original beings.



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What about rhyming oaks?

 

What about Sylvanus?



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So either you are incapable or unwilling to address the fact that an individual human can be better than an individual Altmer in a fraction of the lifespan.

 

Got it.

 

CAN be better? sure? Is it rare? Yes.

 

There, addressed.



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Elves are killed as a tradition and absolutely no humans complain about it. Your companions in DA2 outright say that no court would convict someone for killing an elf. Don't forget how nobles can purge alienages and can rape any elf they want. Heck, even a City Elf Warden who saves Ferelden and becomes bann still faces problems because humans to too racist against elves. How do you expect elves to get anywhere or at least be treated as people without getting involved in politics?

 

Ok, now that's an argument.

As for what they'll do, I don't particularly care one way or another.

I do, on the other hand, find the notion that every group simply must have a representation even if they're just 0,5% percent of the population to be funny.
Next thing you'll know, the surface dwarves will be demanding an Arl.

 



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Whatever the **** it wants to be, lol. And honestly, I'm not even joking.Boring answer is Sentient trees.

Tree gods be worst gods.

ya'll are ****ting right... lame

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This thread is a waste of time.  

 

I am finished.


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Ok, now that's an argument.

As for what they'll do, I don't particularly care one way or another.

I do, on the other hand, find the notion that every group simply must have a representation even if they're just 0,5% percent of the population to be funny.
Next thing you'll know, the surface dwarves will be demanding an Arl.

 

I think they're content with the merchants guilds and gaining influence through money. 



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ya'll are ****ting right... lame


LOL :lol: Don't go with the boring answer and it's a lot cooler. People forget that the spirits at the time of creation degraded into earthbones and all life, including the plantlife. These guys obviously retained much of themselves even in plantform, which to me is pretty cool and creepy. Ever see or read goosebumps as a kid? "Don't go in the basement!"

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Ok, now that's an argument.

As for what they'll do, I don't particularly care one way or another.

I do, on the other hand, find the notion that every group simply must have a representation even if they're just 0,5% percent of the population to be funny.
Next thing you'll know, the surface dwarves will be demanding an Arl.

 

Surface dwarves in fact have them in Tevinter. Go figure.

 

Remember that all is asked here is a voice, nothing more and nothing less.



#1075
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This thread is a waste of time.  

 

I am finished.

 

Bah, this thread is in its infancy; give it time.