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[Colonelkillabee]

"Don't go in the basement!"

And stay the **** out of Blackmarsh.

[raging_monkey]

LOL Don't go with the boring answer and it's a lot cooler. People forget that the spirits at the time of creation degraded into earthbones and all life, including the plantlife. These guys obviously retained much of themselves even in plantform, which to me is pretty cool and creepy. Ever see or read goosebumps as a kid? "Don't go in the basement!"

never ****ing go into the basement XD... good times love those books

[EmissaryofLies]

never ****ing go into the basement XD... good times love those books

 

Spend One Day at Horrorland, and then talk.

[Br3admax]

Who said about superior? I mean I said Altmer have more birthrights but I didn't say that about Bosmer. 

Except they don't. 

And pure here means they are direct ascendants, Altmers were Aldmers first and so on. Bosmer are directly ascended and due to that fact that they couldn't hold their shape because in dawn era many couldn't they are more pure and unchanged since original beings.

Dear lord. Don't take this the wrong way, but your kind of clueless of literally everything. You do know that Bosmer were also descended from Aldmer?  That literally all elves on Tamriel are. That at this point also likely all humans? You can't be serious right now. 

[Augustei]

No, dwarves were created by Aule a valar for he grew tired of waiting for the first born (elves) to appear in Middle Earth.

Elves are the first born children of Eru Illuvatar. Humans are the second born.

Oh right he did make the elves, forgot that. =/
Still, Men are Eru's favourite children so yeah =D

[EmissaryofLies]

****, now even I'm confused at the thread's identity crisis.

[Lulupab]

 

Except they don't. 

Dear lord. Don't take this the wrong way, but your kind of clueless of literally everything. You do know that Bosmer were also descended from Aldmer?  That literally all elves on Tamriel are. That at this point also likely all humans? You can't be serious right now. 

 

 

Long life is not is not a birth right? what about being naturals with magic? What do humans born with?

 

And has there been new leak of lore? Your tone implies you are talking about something new.

[dragonflight288]

****, now even I'm confused at the thread's identity crisis.

 

It's having a midlife crises. Best thing to do in this situation is to smile and nod and pretend you know what's going on.

[raging_monkey]

Spend One Day at Horrorland, and then talk.

good thing i have tablet

[Colonelkillabee]

Except they don't. 
Dear lord. Don't take this the wrong way, but your kind of clueless of literally everything. You do know that Bosmer were also descended from Aldmer?  That literally all elves on Tamriel are. That at this point also likely all humans? You can't be serious right now.

Ohh no, humans most certainly are not. Humans and elves are all descendant of gods and spirits before the creation, but they were separated at their core the minute they sided with the embodiment of chaos. The race of men are very distinct from elves, and in a good way.

They may be more close to ehlnofey, but it's the lorkhanic dunmer who hate the Altmer, and the literal avatar and replacement Shor named Talos that achieved CHIM and godhood. Two vs their one King of Worms.

Mannimarco likely only achieved his because of the dragonbreak, which would be the aka spirit losing his ****, and he belongs to Lorkhan/Talos now.

Granted, that's still two elves, unless you consider the fact that Talos is really Wulfharth, Zurin and Hjalti, so that's really three humans as gods and only two elves.

[Br3admax]

Long life is not is not a birth right? 

Not anymore than more births and earlier reproduction is. 

 

what about being naturals with magic? What do humans born with?

Well for starters, Altmer aren't naturals with magic. They are born with more magicka. Very different. And that is only because that trait was selected for when breeding, just like the average nord can crush a watermelon. One is not superior to the other, and are capable in both populations. 

 

 

 And has there been new leak of lore? Your tone implies you are talking about something new.

Uh, no. There is an Ehlnofey in ES:O. 

[EmissaryofLies]

good thing i have tablet

 

Now I want to play that game in '96 "Goosebumps: Escape from Horrorland".

[Br3admax]

Ohh no, humans most certainly are not. Humans and elves are all descendant of gods and spirits before the creation, but they were separated at their core the minute they sided with the embodiment of chaos. The race of men are very distinct from elves, and in a good way.

 

Not really. The idea that over thousands of years, these populations haven't bred together, and we already know they have, makes this false. Nords and Bretons, who are all descended from elves, have been interbreeding for millennia. Then add in the Cyrodiilics. Extensively. Only Redguards are likely still "pure." It really doesn't take that long to make a bunch of populations blend. 

[Colonelkillabee]

Not really. The idea that over thousands of years, these populations haven't bred together, and we already know they have, makes this false. Nords and Bretons, who are all descended from elves, have been interbreeding for millennia. Extensively. Only Redguards are likely still "pure."

Even if nords did breed with elves, that doesn't make them descendants from them... no more than bretons are, because they started as men. And they certainly didn't breed widespread like that. The humans were separate from elves in Atmora, besides the ones that stayed behind as Nedes or made trips to Skyrim, and they were the ones that became bretons. The Atmorans however have been warring and killing them ever since, and Michael Kirkbride even made it a point that they mostly did not breed together willingly, as there was a half elf half nord in the 500 companions who took that as a great shame.

TES is very racist, too racist for this idea. The only real mutt race here is Bretons/Reachmen, who only became what they are from many many years of enslavement. Otherwise, the race of the child is always determined by that of the mother in the short term, without many many generations of breeding.

[Lulupab]

Not really. The idea that over thousands of years, these populations haven't bred together, and we already know they have, makes this false. Nords and Bretons, who are all descended from elves, have been interbreeding for millennia. Then add in the Cyrodiilics. Extensively. Only Redguards are likely still "pure." It really doesn't take that long to make a bunch of populations blend. 

 

Bretons are disturbing... they are practically results of raped humans who used to be servants/slaves to altmer. And their earlier forms looks very creepy, they have the altmer jaw with human ears...

[Dark Helmet]

Ok, now that's an argument.

As for what they'll do, I don't particularly care one way or another.

I do, on the other hand, find the notion that every group simply must have a representation even if they're just 0,5% percent of the population to be funny.
Next thing you'll know, the surface dwarves will be demanding an Arl.

 

Let's be honest though. A Dwarf Arl would be fine. Because Dwarves are consistently Bro tier with humanity.

[Augustei]

Let's be honest though. A Dwarf Arl would be fine. Because Dwarves are consistently Bro tier with humanity.

Dwarves shouldn't have leaders that aren't Bhelen Aeducan.
Have the Merchants Guild take a knee to the one true King Bhelen

[Lulupab]

Not anymore than more births and earlier reproduction is. 

Well for starters, Altmer aren't naturals with magic. They are born with more magicka. Very different. And that is only because that trait was selected for when breeding, just like the average nord can crush a watermelon. One is not superior to the other, and are capable in both populations. 

 

 

I was looking for something to justify elves being able to put up a fight against humans despite the human number advantage.

[Lulupab]

Let's be honest though. A Dwarf Arl would be fine. Because Dwarves are consistently Bro tier with humanity.

 

Who is "humanity". Thanks to dwarves Minrathous has infinite supplies during sieges (they live under it and there is a way that connects them) and Dwarves pretty much really helped tevinter stand against whole Thedas and not fall. They also helped during Qunari invasion.

 

South Thedas belittles the Dwarves, sadly.

[Master Warder Z_]

im still confused on what the **** the hist is

The fingers of Sithis.

[EmissaryofLies]

Who is "humanity". Thanks to dwarves Minrathous has infinite supplies during sieges (they live under it and there is a way that connects them) and Dwarves pretty much really helped tevinter stand against whole Thedas and not fall. They also helped during Qunari invasion.

 

South Thedas belittles the Dwarves, sadly.

 

ahahahahahhaaha 

 

lol'd

[Colonelkillabee]

I was looking for something to justify elves being able to put up a fight against humans despite the human number advantage.

Well, in the great war, it was because the Empire was caught with their pants beneath their ankles, and Cyrodiil's actually a very easy place to invade. Like Rome, those paved roads are a double edged sword, and Cyrodiil's open planes do them no favors either, unlike Skyrim which is surrounded by mountains, harsh weather and the "Sea of Ghosts".

[raging_monkey]

Well, in the great war, it was because the Empire was caught with their pants beneath their ankles, and Cyrodiil's actually a very easy place to invade. Like Rome, those paved roads are a double edged sword, and Cyrodiil's open planes do them no favors either, unlike Skyrim which is surrounded by mountains, harsh weather and the "Sea of Ghosts".

and ****ing spiders, trolls giant cats

[EmissaryofLies]

Seriously, f*ck Sabers.

[Colonelkillabee]

and ****ing spiders, trolls giant cats

And actual giants, lol It's all a clusterfuck of everything that would make a supply line nightmare for anyone trying to invade.