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[Master Warder Z_]

Oh you didn't put the rabbit in charge.

Good.

That's what I feared.

[Colonelkillabee]

Oh you didn't put the rabbit in charge.

Good.

That's what I feared.

 

Ah I gotcha, lol. I was going to say, I thought you'd like that No, she'd get in the way of my controlling him if I put her in charge of him. There's only room for one man in this relationship, and he's my ******.

 

And, if he ends up screwing things for Orlais, then that's no skin of my ass. Orlais can go **** itself.

 

Huha. Huhaha. Huhahahaha.

 

Muhahahahahaha! Muahahahahahahahaha!

 

**** Orlesians. Till the day I die.

[Master Warder Z_]

Creepy mutant dwarf...laughing all ominously like that.

[RobRam10]

Creepy mutant dwarf...laughing all ominously like that.

His characters are Human

[Colonelkillabee]

His characters are Human

I think he was trying to be funny, lol. He's just mad because my Trev's so manly he makes dwarves jealous. Rocking the beard better than they can, lol.

[Master Warder Z_]

His characters are Human

That beard is an abomination.

It must be a dwarf.

[Colonelkillabee]

Real men have beards. Fact of life

[Master Warder Z_]

Real men have beards. Fact of life

*has been clean shaven for more then a decade*

o.o

[Colonelkillabee]

*has been clean shaven for more then a decade*

o.o

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[Augustei]

Actually, the redguards remind me a lot of the Dalish. They could be so much more than what they are, if only they'd stay united.

Dead? lol

[Colonelkillabee]

Dead? lol

LOL

[In Exile]

Burden of proof?

 

Here's my proof.

 

Merrill had a shard from an eluvian for over a decade, one that had once been tainted by darkspawn and she said she cleansed by amplifying her magic with blood magic. The fact that she and no one else gets possessed in that decade is proof she succeeded.

 

The mirror she built was in no way going to get her possessed by Audacity because it is clearly connected to the Crossroads in Inquisition, and the eluvians are used safely by Briala and her agents in TME. Whereas Audacity is bound to the mortal world in a statue, and the crossroads isn't even in the Fade to begin with. 

 

No matter how you slice and dice it, Merrill is in no danger of possession for the reasons Merethari gave after she herself got possessed. And since Merrill never got tainted, Briala and her agents never get tainted, and Morrigan never gets tainted, that is proof that the eluvian would not bring back the Taint as Merethari fears in Act 2. 

 

Merethari is wrong, pure and simple. She didn't do her research on it in Origins. She doesn't do any in DA2, and therefore, it is my argument, based on how wrong she is based on the evidence gathered in the novel and the next game, that she had no clue what she is talking about when it comes to the eluvians. 

 

That is my proof. If you wish to take apart this argument, you will have to deny everything that happens in TME, Witch Hunt, and Inquisition when it comes to eluvians.

 

As to the second part, I didn't mean to twist what you said, that is actually how it came across to me. Which is also why I said that I was sure that wasn't what you meant and thus asked for clarification. 

 

I get your argument now, I don't agree with it because I hold Merethari to more accountability precisely because she's in a position of power and has a responsibility to her clan and Merrill was allowed to leave after helping Hawke with Flemeth's amulet, but now I understand what you meant. 

 

Hawke knows none of those things. I am not saying that the mirror is dangerous. I - the real person behind the screen - agree with Merrill. Even if I didn't, I am of the view that people are responsible for their own actions and, in the end, would have helped Merrill solely because she was my (qua Hawke) friend. 

 

Here is what Hawke knows about the mirror. He knows that it had the taint - Merrill admits that it infected someone. She says - without explaining - that she had a method for removing the taint. She says that the mirror didn't work. 

 

It's not about possession. It's about a magical artefact from (again, Hawke's POV), unknown but possibly elven origin, that has been confirmed to infect another with the blight. 

 

It doesn't matter that Marethari is comically ignorant about the mirror. Again, from Hawke's POV, she's as reliable an authority as one can find on elven artifacts. 

 

Regarding Merrill's blame, note, I'm not saying Merrill is somehow more (or even as) responsible. What I am saying, however, is that she is responsible, in the sense that she bears some of the responsibility for the situation. I think people confuse how Marethari was wrong about the situation (that is, that she somehow had to get possessed (????) to save Merrill) with Merrill's actual involvement in the dupe (i.e., she was just an instrument for Audacity to emotionally exploit Marethari).  

[Augustei]

*has been clean shaven for more then a decade*

o.o

[Lulupab]

Yeah, beards are damn good.

 

Lets just be honest though, elf female > human female. My elf female gave me Sylvanas vibe, badass, graceful, unbent and unbroken. And add Solas romance and it overshadows everything else. Solas is just so awesome, its Ironclad. That voice omgwtfbbqasdsfsszoiosf

[MisterJB]

K, so go send your men to raid the dalish and kill them unprovoked. At least they'll fight back.

Yes, but very badly.

Michel once killed three with a blanket and no armor.

 

[Augustei]

Yeah, beards are damn good.

 

Lets just be honest though, elf female > human female. My elf female gave me Sylvanas vibe, badass, graceful, unbent and unbroken. And add Solas romance and it overshadows everything else. Solas is just so awesome, its Ironclad. That voice omgwtfbbqasdsfsszoiosf

Sylvanas?!? The one that didn't acknowledge her overlord Ner'zhul? Pfft.

Seriously though either bow to the Lich King (The Real one not this Arthas or Bolvar Fordragon bs) or get out

.....Damn I miss Warcraft, why did WoW have to go butcher the lore =(

[Lulupab]

Yes, but very badly.

Michel once killed three with a blanket and no armor.

 

Yes, as if he charged at the Dalish camp with no armor and blanket and took them one by one. Ariane would make short work of Michel, do not doubt it.

[Lulupab]

Sylvanas?!? The one that didn't acknowledge her overlord Ner'zhul? Pfft.

Seriously though either bow to the Lich King (The Real one not this Arthas or Bolvar Fordragon bs) or get out

.....Damn I miss Warcraft, why did WoW have to go butcher the lore =(

 

Still what I said applies, badass, graceful, unbent and unbroken.

[Colonelkillabee]

 

 

I'm still out of likes...

 

[Augustei]

Still what I said applies, badass, graceful, unbent and unbroken.

She was Broken..By Arthas and the Scourge, and she bent the knee to Ner'zhul's will for a while there...So not exactly unbent and unbroken
She isn't the Dornish where they surrendered on their terms, Sylvannas and her forces were crushed by the scourge. They literally broke through the elven capital to get to that well

[MisterJB]

Yes, as if he charged at the Dalish camp with no armor and blanket and took them one by one. Ariane would make short work of Michel, do not doubt it.

No, he was just tied down and beaten beforehand. Clearly, the odds were in his favor.

 

Also, Michel killed around twelve Dalish, then faced the War Leader and First at the same time and won. Later in the same day, he killed a Revenant and Arcane Horror. Ariane is high levelled by virtue of being part of the very last DLC but, lorewise, I'm not seeing her defeating Michel.

[Augustei]

I can't seem many in Thedas going up against an Orlesian Chevalier tbh, they're the best trained warriors in Thedas. Especially Ser Michael who is meant to be exceptional even for A Chevalier.
Maybe if said person was A PC or in the party of a PC, otherwise....

[Lulupab]

She was Broken..By Arthas and the Scourge, and she bent the knee to Ner'zhul's will for a while there...So not exactly unbent and unbroken
She isn't the Dornish where they surrendered on their terms, Sylvannas and her forces were crushed by the scourge. They literally broke through the elven capital to get to that well

 

Tell me about voice of Ner'zhul that affected millions but failed to affect her. Her determination was stronger than Ner'zhul could ever be. She removed the presence of scourge from Lordaeron permanently, played a major role in bringing down Arthas etc... Yes her capital was lost which is why I compared her to the Dalish. She once shot an arrow that hit the eye of a human who was flying on a gryphon and spying on her movement. I mean just imagine it, someone is flying above your head, moving fast and you aim an arrow that his his eye from the ground. You are really out of luck if you want to bring Sylvanas down, Not killing her was probably the biggest mistake Arthas ever made ( I mean kill "kill"). And I'm not mentioning the fact that Sylvanas killed the strongest dread lords  with nothing but some banshees and how she manipulated humans to do her every whim.

 

No, he was just tied down and beaten beforehand. Clearly, the odds were in his favor.

 

Also, Michel killed around twelve Dalish, then faced the War Leader and First at the same time and won. Later in the same day, he killed a Revenant and Arcane Horror. Ariane is high levelled by virtue of being part of the very last DLC but, lorewise, I'm not seeing her defeating Michel.

 

I meant her dialogue, she is like the bane of Templars. Killed any that ventured close to her clan. So don't compare best and brightest to scrubs. 

[Augustei]

Tell me about voice of Ner'zhul that affected millions but failed to affect her. Her determination was stronger than Ner'zhul could ever be. She removed the presence of scourge from Lordaeron permanently, played a major role in bringing down Arthas etc... Yes her capital was lost which is why I compared her to the Dalish. She once shot an arrow that hit the eye of a human who was flying on a gryphon and spying on her movement. I mean just imagine it, someone is flying above your head, moving fast and you aim an arrow that his his eye from the ground. You are really out of luck if you want to bring Sylvanas down, Not killing her was probably the biggest mistake Arthas ever made ( I mean kill "kill"). And I'm not mentioning the fact that Sylvanas killed the strongest dread lords  with nothing but some banshees and how she manipulated humans to do her every whim.

 

She was broken once, she can be again. The only reason she was so sucessful against the scourge in Lordaeron is because Ner'zhul was a bit busy at the time dealing with the whole loosing his power and The Burning Legion's agents striking against him. But that mess has been resolved now and NOTHING HAS HAPPENED SINCE JUST YET.(Bring up anything from wow and ima block my ears, That game butchered every aspect of its lore I dont want to even acknowledge its existance beyond this)

In the end, all will bow to the will of the Lich King.

 

[Lulupab]

She was broken once, she can be again. The only reason she was so sucessful against the scourge in Lordaeron is because Ner'zhul was a bit busy at the time dealing with the whole loosing his power and The Burning Legion's agents striking against him. But that mess has been resolved now and NOTHING HAS HAPPENED SINCE JUST YET.(Bring up anything from wow and ima block my ears, That game butchered every aspect of its lore I dont want to even acknowledge its existance beyond this)

In the end, all will bow to the will of the Lich King.

 

 

The important thing is coming back from being broken, everything breaks, even diamonds. She had no army but she turned whole remaining forces of Lordaeron ranging from humans, brigands and bandits and bloody trolls and murlocs against the scourge and kicked them out. There is nothing like it in whole wow lore, before or after getting butchered

 

Not to mention Sylvanas almost killed Arthas if it wasn't for Kel'thuzad. Ner'zhull champion was first babysat by Uther, then Kel'thuzad then Anub'arak. Sylvanas was alone and the Vengeance of dark lady washed Lordaeron from scourge. Arthas was the last alive scourge who left Lordaeron.