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[Aimi]

Companions yes, but not all romances are companions now and there are now s/s romances in the game.

Not really. None of the non-companion "romances" amount to anything other than some flirting and a kiss. There's no ongoing relationship, no fade-to-black, and not a whole lot of depth any way you slice it. S/S flirts, when they exist, are often awkward, and seem shoe-horned into the dialogue in uncomfortable ways. Lemda Avesta and Lord Cytharat are the best of a bad bunch, but Lemda is borderline hostile to the player and Cytharat dies most of the time.

[Lord Surinen]

If you were really interested in maximizing the variety, you'd be lobbying for going back to DA2's approach.

Not every ilk of variety is good

 

Why would they lie about that? I'd think they'd want to say that people finished their games.

Ow my, I did not say that they lie. BioWare would never lie to us, but if they were to, then most probably to harvest some potential PR benefits from enacting certain plans that I will not even mention because BioWare would never lie.

 

[Leo]

Not every ilk of variety is good

 

Like the kind you want.

[Lord Surinen]

Like the kind you want.

I disagree.

 

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I hope for the shift in the gaming and that BioWare will drop promotion of agendas in favour of ideas like this thread offers. It is healthy and worth of pursuit to please most probably the biggest monetary contributors, all those who wish to see far more straight companions.

[Battlebloodmage]

I disagree.

 

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I hope for the shift in the gaming and that BioWare will drop promotion of agendas in favour of ideas like this thread offers. It is healthy and worth of pursuit to please most probably the biggest monetary contributors, all those who wish to see far more straight companions.

I really feel for you and those who have a problem with gay romances. It's not like there weren't hundreds of other games with only straight romances out there.

[daveliam]

Not really. None of the non-companion "romances" amount to anything other than some flirting and a kiss. There's no ongoing relationship, no fade-to-black, and not a whole lot of depth any way you slice it. S/S flirts, when they exist, are often awkward, and seem shoe-horned into the dialogue in uncomfortable ways. Lemda Avesta and Lord Cytharat are the best of a bad bunch, but Lemda is borderline hostile to the player and Cytharat dies most of the time.

 

They've added in two more s/s romances in the newest expansion.  I've yet to play it yet, but I've watched the romance footage for the m/m romance online and it's much more fleshed out than Cytharat.  He's a major NPC in the story and there are numerous romance scenes with him.  It's like 5-10 mins of romance footage now.  It's still not quite the same as a companion with a fade-to-black scene, but it's definitely comparable.  Just a shame that it took them three years to implement it.

[daveliam]

I disagree.

 

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I hope for the shift in the gaming and that BioWare will drop promotion of agendas in favour of ideas like this thread offers. It is healthy and worth of pursuit to please most probably the biggest monetary contributors, all those who wish to see far more straight companions.

 

Translation:  I hope that Bioware will drop the promotion of agendas that I'm not in favor of and instead focus on agendas that I support.

 

I cannot understand how people can possibly think that asking for s/s romances is an 'agenda' but asking for straight romances isn't. 

[Fisva]

If I were a dev reading topics like these, I would be rather irritated by it all. There are way too many people complaining despite all of the various and inclusive romances in this game, which are a marked improvement to past gaming experiences. 

 

Bioware makes the characters first, then decides which of those characters have an appropriate background for romance. Maybe next game, you'll get your STRAIGHT-ONLY female, but then the Dwarf fans will complain if they don't get a dwarf romance, and then others will still complain because it was a MALE dwarf, not a female dwarf romance.

 

Personally, I'd rather Bioware address all of the bugs. I cannot access certain quests, and the Inquisition banner crown did not unlock for me as it should have.

 

I dunno. Maybe it's because I'm old(er) compared to what I imagine is the average age of these forums (20-somethings). I just come to these forums during the day, and see way too many of these topics. My apologies.

That is what I have been repeating over and over again, thank you!

Sometimes I have a feeling that people play this game just to pursue their own sexual needs rather than enjoy how the characters are well-written...

[DaemionMoadrin]

Translation:  I hope that Bioware will drop the promotion of agendas that I'm not in favor of and instead focus on agendas that I support.

 

I cannot understand how people can possibly think that asking for s/s romances is an 'agenda' but asking for straight romances isn't. 

 

You've seen him argue his agenda in several threads, shouldn't you know better than to argue with him by now?

[Lindum]

First of all, Bioware in having diversity in their romance options is good.

Moreover, the two choices in every Dragon Age game for straight males are given is fair and I say this as a hetrosexual male.

All, I would like to see in the next game or a possible DAI expansion is more racial diversity in the straight male romances. Because, the majority of the choices are humans and having a female Dwarf/Elf/Qunari romace option would be a refershing change.

[Asdrubael Vect]

Getting to play a relationship you enjoy is hardly "nothing," even if the DA universe fails to recognize the details of your PC's personal life.

This is the same as just thinking or write a fanfiction that your "peasant" guy/girl character married some king or queen and they lived happy and etc, but we all know that it was never happen and never was a option.

 

It is the same as just thinking about that and modkit will just make your fanfiction visible in game, but all of this would be just a crapy modifications of the pieces of the character voices what will never have any relationship with game universe.

 

This would be fake what is far easy to be a picture or a fan fiction story rather than create a game modification

[Lord Surinen]

I really feel for you and those who have a problem with gay romances. It's not like there weren't hundreds of other games with only straight romances out there.

A great many of which were not RPG. It does not matter how many of them are out there.

 

Translation:  I hope that Bioware will drop the promotion of agendas that I'm not in favor of and instead focus on agendas that I support.

 

I cannot understand how people can possibly think that asking for s/s romances is an 'agenda' but asking for straight romances isn't. 

No. I hope that BioWare will focus on the norms and possibly the biggest monetary contributors.

It is because straight romances are a  norm in our universe(about 97-98%). Not to mention how forcefully implemented BW's agenda is in the game: our characters are forced to refer to female character as 'man', with no RP option to deny it. It is intrusive and leaves bad taste.

 

There are not many AAA RPG being released,and it is such a pity to see one of the biggest titles becoming a pamphlet for certain agendas.

[Fandango]

I hope that BioWare will focus on the norms and possibly the biggest monetary contributors.

Hmmm, not all straight gamers feel the same way about same-sex content as you do Surinen. Best not to assume otherwise eh?

[Andraste_Reborn]

No. I hope that BioWare will focus on the norms and possibly the biggest monetary contributors.

 

I'm a straight gamer who would be very upset to see BioWare stop putting same-sex romance content in Dragon Age. I might well stop buying. (Unless it was something like Awakening that didn't have any romances at all. That would be fine with me.)

 

However, since this is about as likely as Dragon Age 4 being a nug farming simulator, I can't say I'm worried about it.

[Lord Surinen]

Hmmm, not all straight gamers feel the game way about same-sex content as you do Surinen. Best not to assume otherwise eh?

This is why there is 'possible'. Nothing wrong about healthy assumptions.

 

I'm a straight gamer who would be very upset to see BioWare stop putting same-sex romance content in Dragon Age. I might well stop buying. (Unless it was something like Awakening that didn't have any romances at all. That would be fine with me.)

 

However, since this is about as likely as Dragon Age 4 being a nug farming simulator, I can't say I'm worried about it.

Yes, thank you for pointing this out. I should have added 'males' alongside 'norm' and 'biggest monetary contributor'. Women are very much modern, progressive thinkers so I fully understand that you would be very upset about it.

[Fandango]

This is why there is 'possible'. Nothing wrong about healthy assumptions.

Replace the word 'healthy' with 'childish' and you might just have it right there Surinen.

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

I have to laugh at a guy saying BW should only focus on "normal relationships" considering he wanted a female elf sex slave for his male elven supremacist who he could have kids with & punish if she disobeyed

[FKA_Servo]

Pulling for this thread to meet with the same fate as the other weird elf thread, seeing as there's no chance for a happy ending for anyone.

 

Either way, it's pretty evident which direction the wind is blowing, at least where Bioware is concerned.

 

I have to laugh at a guy saying BW should only focus on "normal relationships" considering he wanted a female elf sex slave for his male elven supremacist who he could have kids with & punish if she disobeyed

 

Also this.

[Lord Surinen]

Replace the word 'healthy' with 'childish' and you might have it right there Surinen.

Please, refrain from unnecessary snarky comments. It might be a part of my infantile system of beliefs but I find nothing childish about it

 

I have to laugh at a guy saying BW should only focus on "normal relationships" considering he wanted a female elf sex slave for his male elven supremacist who he could have kids with & punish if she disobeyed

'Norm' is not a synonym for 'normal'. Please, refrain from manipulation and slander in the future. My suggestion about companion DLC was about straight female elf and arranged marriage. There was no 'slavery' nor 'punishment for disobying' involved.

[jlb524]

Why mage? What do you people have against straight female warrior elves?

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

'Norm' is not a synonym for 'normal'. Please, refrain from manipulation and slander in the future. My suggestion about companion DLC was about straight female elf and arranged marriage. There was no 'slavery' nor 'punishment for disobying' involved.

Are you sure about that? i remember something about "cutting fingers off" if your female elf looked at anyone else

[FKA_Servo]

Please, refrain from unnecessary snarky comments. It might be a part of my infantile system of beliefs but I find nothing childish about it

 

'Norm' is not a synonym for 'normal'. Please, refrain from manipulation and slander in the future. My suggestion about companion DLC was about straight female elf and arranged marriage. There was no 'slavery' nor 'punishment for disobying' involved.

 

A word for word quote, from you, from your last thread:

Actually the optionable plot with cut fingers is not about her having audacity to exercise ill feelings toward other character, but about breaking her will, putting in time and space that she will face from now on, in a sense 'welcome to reality'.

 

Welcome to reality, eh?

 

I feel like I can say, with reasonable certainty, that no one would mind a straight elf companion as a romance option. I personally would rather have someone else, but whatever. Overall, no one would bat an eye. Thing is - the justifications you're using to support the idea, and the position you're arguing from, is insane and loathsome.

[Lord Surinen]

Are you sure about that? i remember something about "cutting fingers off" if your female elf looked at anyone else

I'm sure about that. I'm aware that my english grammar is far from good, but I'm positive that I have put it clear there: there is no cutting female elf's fingers.

[AzureAardvark]

However, since this is about as likely as Dragon Age 4 being a nug farming simulator, I can't say I'm worried about it.

 

Do *not* give them ideas. >.<

[Lord Surinen]

A word for word quote, from you, from your last thread:

 

Welcome to reality, eh?

 

I feel like I can say, with reasonable certainty, that no one would mind a straight elf companion as a romance option. I personally would rather have someone else, but whatever. Overall, no one would bat an eye. Thing is - the justifications you're using to support the idea, and the position you're arguing from, is insane and loathsome.

Selective reading. It was an alternative suggestion about presenting her(female elf) with her 'beloved'(other male elf, pointed in previous posts to the one you have quoted) fingers. My justification is clear and quite normal. DA universe is gritty.