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[Vilegrim]

I wanted Briala, but got Celene, so have no idea what more of the multi hour slog I have to do to actually change Celene wins.....

[Arakat]

All three. My Inquisitor is all about elven rights and was going to support Briala, but after all the revelations, she saw that all three of them were just as bad and didn't even bother trying to figure out the "least evil" option.

[Mr.House]

Gaspard...with Briala at the reins.

Poor Gaspard. Might as well just kill him.

[Mr.House]

I wanted Briala, but got Celene, so have no idea what more of the multi hour slog I have to do to actually change Celene wins.....

Briala or Gaspard can only be put on the throne if you let Celene die. If she survives, she will always regain her throne.

[Barquiel]

Oh yes, because civil wars just start up for no reason. It's not like Gaspard and others where sooo pleased with Celenes current rulership at all right and Celene was making smart choices during TME right?
 
Oh wait...

They had their reasons. Gaspard was powerhungry. Remache is loyal to him because he wants to have his daughter, Monette, marry Gaspard and become empress. The chevaliers and some other minor nobles supported him because Celene tried to improve relations with Ferelden/Nevarra and they saw her as "antimilitary". Great reasons...really.

[Jester]

Celene with Briala free and exiled and Gaspard dead.

 

She provides stability, but because Briala is free and plotting, she clings desperately to the alliance with the Inquisition, basically making Orlais an Inquisitor's puppet state.

 

I'm not sure what I will choose on my second playthrough, with the character who actually cares about other people.

[ZoliCs]

Celene, I won't be complicit to murder because it suits my needs. I might as well be the next villain with that attitude.

[Mr.House]

They had their reasons. Gaspard was powerhungry. Remache is loyal to him because he wants to have his daughter, Monette, marry Gaspard and become empress. The chevaliers and some other minor nobles supported him because Celene tried to improve relations with Ferelden/Nevarra and they saw her as "antimilitary". Great reasons...really.

Gaspard didn't fully go after the throne for along time, he did because Celene was making too many mistakes, she was becoming a weak ruler. Also for all this talk of wanting war, this would hold water if you know, Gaspard didn't bother to negotiate with Alistair and both coming to terms, nor would he continue to be on good terms with the Inquisition, yet he is.

[Machina Obscura]

Gaspard. Straight-talking for a orlesian noble, and a general who commands the loyalty of the Chevaliers. I need soldiers, not plotters.

[BraveVesperia]

I haven't tried for all three yet. Perhaps next time.

 

First playthrough: Celene and Briala

Second playthrough: Gaspard and Briala

 

And wow did the second option net me a lot of disapproval from various people. The only person who gave outright approval was Bull, for some reason.

I like that Celene's more about the arts, education, culture than imperialist expansion. However, I dislike 'the Game', and Gaspard's military outlook is better suited to the Coryfish issue. After reading the Masked Empire, I'd quite like to punt them both into a mountain. I like Briala more, but not by much.

 

It was an interesting choice to make, and I like that we have to work for it and scheme, instead of just standing up and saying "I'd like Celene to rule please, thanks."

[KaiserShep]

Celene, because why not? My Inquisitor's there for the party and foiling Cory's scheming. I don't think she read The Masked Empire.

[Nette]

Poor Gaspard. Might as well just kill him.

Hah, no he got to be emperor just like he wanted...but he's also a warmonger and I wasn't going to just let him stear Orlais towards
expantionism again. Briala can keep him in check.

[Mr.House]

Hah, no he got to be emperor just like he wanted...but he's also a warmonger and I wasn't going to just let him stear Orlais into
expantionism again. Briala can keep him in check.

Yet he does not do that if put into power. So....

[DariusDrannen]

Celene because she's sexy. :c

 

Not sure if you were entirely serious, but I was disappointed in the facial model they came up with for Celene.  She's supposed to be, what, late 30's or early 40's?  When you speak to her up close, you can see the wrinkles that make her look like she's in her 60's.

 

I know ruling a nation is stressful, but geez, talk about premature aging.  Neither Briala nor Gaspard looked like they had much in the way of wrinkles.

[DracoAngel]

I've done:

Gaspard ruling alone

Gaspard and Briala (did this I think twice)

Celene rules with Gaspard executed and Briala exiled

Celene rules with Gaspard execute and Briala... you know I don't know what happened to her. She wasn't exiled nor was she ruling with Celene and she wasn't mentioned in the end credits. Only that there was blood on Celene's hands... hmm...

 

I've been trying to get an ending with Celene and Briala ruling together. But I can't figure out how to convince Celene. When I tried pushing Celene to "rewarding" Briala for helping stop Gaspard, Celene banished her. I was like... wtf

[Patchwork]

I had to keep in mind that my elf had no idea what happened in TME so with just the knowledge that the game had given me at that point or at least the stuff  I'd bothered to read I flashed around the locket I found and saved Celene's life. 

 

Like the outcome of the Landsmet I don't think there's a better choice it's up to the player to choose. 

[Nette]

Yet he does not do that if put into power. So....

For now at least...but he explained his politics very clearly at the party. If left unchecked he will expand his empire again and
that means war with the neighboring countries. So I put a "safety pin" on him just in case.

[Kimarous]

I'm torn on who to side with. I've narrowed it down to three options: Celene/Briala, Gaspard/Briala, and Gaspard. I'm not going with "Celene Alone" because I think that's the worst option, and "All Three Together" just feels like putting a lid on a boiling-over pot. The first seems like a decent "everyone's happy" (sans Gaspard) option, even though I'm not very fond of Celene; the second sounds good on paper but I'm concerned about long-term strife stemming from such radical change amid other radical changes; and the third could help quash this whole "The Game" malarkey without fussing about "special needs" groups (read: elves), but again... radical changes over already radical times.

 

(BTW, I'm playing a warrior dwarf who's trying to step away from his darker past and become something "greater")

 

I'd appreciate feedback.

[Nette]

I've done:
Gaspard ruling alone
Gaspard and Briala (did this I think twice)
Celene rules with Gaspard executed and Briala exiled
Celene rules with Gaspard execute and Briala... you know I don't know what happened to her. She wasn't exiled nor was she ruling with Celene and she wasn't mentioned in the end credits. Only that there was blood on Celene's hands... hmm...
 
I've been trying to get an ending with Celene and Briala ruling together. But I can't figure out how to convince Celene. When I tried pushing Celene to "rewarding" Briala for helping stop Gaspard, Celene banished her. I was like... wtf

You need to get an amulet (one of your party members will comment on it when you pick it up) from one of the halla locked rooms,
then talk to Celenes ladies in waiting, who lets you talk to Celene and then talk to Briala about it.

[phaonica]

I don't remember. Does it matter?

[Barquiel]

Gaspard didn't fully go after the throne for along time, he did because Celene was making too many mistakes, she was becoming a weak ruler. Also for all this talk of wanting war, this would hold water if you know, Gaspard didn't bother to negotiate with Alistair and both coming to terms, nor would he continue to be on good terms with the Inquisition, yet he is.

Sorry, but in-game dialogue from an objective character who knows a few things about orlesian politics (Josephine) and the codex trump your headcanon. Celene was Orlais savior after Florian's rule had brought the empire to the brink of collapse...and the country has never been quite so prosperous as it is now. She is not "weak".

That's nice, I guess. Celene doesn't invade Ferelden either, and her gratitude towards the Inquisition has remained strong in my game as well. And Gaspard not trying to invade Ferelden doesn't change the fact that the only thing he wants to change about Orlais is who rules it (Answer: Him). Beyond that, he has no interest in reforming Orlais.

[nightscrawl]

On my first play I picked Celene. On the second play I chose the "perfect" solution where all three of them are still there at the end and I like this option the most. Granted, I don't think it's the best in the long run, but I think it plays out really well in the game itself. The whole cutscene where you reveal everyone's plans was just fantastic, and I love the moment where your Inquisitor can say, "This is how it's going to be." Really great stuff.

[SgtSteel91]

My Inquisitor's honor prevented her from letting Celene die for politics and my Inquisitor was also sympathetic to the city elves so she got Celene and Briala to reconcile. Too bad Gaspard had to die, but I at least got Michel for a Chevalier in the Inquisition.

[nightscrawl]

My Inquisitor's honor prevented her from letting Celene die for politics...

 

This is the reason I picked Celene (exiled Briala) the first time around. Also, at that time I didn't know there was the trio option. Ah the wonderful, pure ignorance of a first play .

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

Gaspard. He is the most honest when compare to Celene and Briala, and at least he won't stab you in the back. I played as political savvy Inquisitor so my character has a significance amount of knowledge about politics in general, and civil wars in Orlais. My character knew there are reasons for it to happen, and were it not for Celene's weakness Gaspard and his compatriots wouldn't rebel in the first place.

 

I choose Gaspard because we're at war. I need a militaristic leader to handle the current situation, and Gaspard has the lion's share of chevaliers and soldiers. Also I wish to see the partnership between the Inquisition and Orlais truthful and long lived. Celene is weak and untrustworthy, she'll use the Inquisition for her own agenda and cling on this alliance too tightly. Briala is no difference despite that she's more competence than Celene.