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The initial search for an Inquisitor; why the Hero of Ferelden?


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Independently of race or personality, The Hero of Ferelden proved him/herself to be an exceptional leader who was able to stop the fifth Blight and save Thedas in a mere year with the initial help of an apostate, a single other Warden and a bunch of papers.

 

Self explanatory.


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Well the Hero of Ferelden ended a Blight and ended multiple civil wars almost single handedly. I'd say that he/she'd be best for the job of restoring order to the world. 


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But they were searching for an Inquisitor (i.e. Hawke/Hero of Ferelden) at LEAST a year BEFORE Inquisition/the Conclave.


But during the war, if restarting the inquisition had been the desperation play, maybe getting the peace talks had delayed it?

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In hindsight, the HoF being the Inquisitor would be very bad as there would be no way for them to kill Coryshite safely.


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Interacting with so much dark spawn and going into the deep roads so much increases the chances of a really early legit calling for a Warden. HOF has been around a lot of dark spawn, much more than anyone else. They've probably got all kinds of whispering voices in their head interfering with their ability to think clearly and are a by now could be huge liability

 

HOF is getting tired of doing everything for everyone and needs a lot of me time. Let someone else get roped into that mess. 



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Interacting with so much dark spawn and going into the deep roads so much increases the chances of a really early legit calling for a Warden. HOF has been around a lot of dark spawn, much more than anyone else. They've probably got all kinds of whispering voices in their head interfering with their ability to think clearly and are a by now could be huge liability

 

HOF is getting tired of doing everything for everyone and needs a lot of me time. Let someone else get roped into that mess. 

And if he kills COryshite or he dies near the HoF, HoF is simply screwed. A warden can not be the one to kill Cory it is simply too dangerous and will just cause more issues. It's a good thing HoF is far away from this crap as possible.



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None of these arguments for the Warden are really working for me. The race DOES matter. All that DOES matter. S/he had people helping him/her along the way and telling him/her what's what. Not to mention not everyone believes the Blight actually happened. This is a HUGE deterrent for choosing the Warden as the Inquisitor.



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Make a HoF as Inquisitor as fail dlc like Darkspawn Chronicles Bioware plz


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And if he kills COryshite or he dies near the HoF, HoF is simply screwed. A warden can not be the one to kill Cory it is simply too dangerous and will just cause more issues. It's a good thing HoF is far away from this crap as possible.

 

Wouldn't the results be the same as with killing Archdemon in which they would both die? I thought it was implied that he could possess Grey Warden bodies only if they were under his fake calling mind control since another soul can't force itself upon the unwilling.



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Make a HoF as Inquisitor as fail dlc like Darkspawn Chronicles Bioware plz

 

That would be funny. Play until In Your Heart Shall Burn, stab Corypheus because the Warden is that badass... then get absorbed and die. Coryfish wins. Roll credits.


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Wouldn't the results be the same as with killing Archdemon in which they would both die? I thought it was implied that he could possess Grey Warden bodies only if they were under his fake calling mind control since another soul can't force itself upon the unwilling.

Morrigan: Yet the wardens can kill archdemons. Maybe they locked up Coryphesus because he could not be truly killed.

 

Varric:The wardens had a thousand years and they could not even kill him.

 

The wardens can not kill him, them killing him or even being near him is a massive danger.


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That would be funny. Play until In Your Heart Shall Burn, stab Corypheus because the Warden is that badass... then get absorbed and die. Coryfish wins. Roll credits.

I would pay just to see the reactions of people seeing their HoF shake and then Coryshites arm popping right out of their gut, credits.


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This is imo but on discussions on how a certain char fit into the tapestry, only the canon tapestry can be put on the table, not the player's. The developers have laid the main road but built in side paths to let players wander as they please since these paths offer different/diverging experiences. But the main road is still there, no matter which path the player takes.  It cannot be changed. The player's chosen path is his/her own tapestry/story.

 

Hence, if a player's Warden had died or Leliana is dead on his/her chosen path, it has no effect on the central tapestry.

 

To OP question,(imo) the Warden is a candidate because the Seekers would have known what went down at the Circle in Ferelden. It was resolved and the Warden united mages/templars to fight the Blight. This gives the Warden a definite influence among Ferelden mages/templars. If they could be convinced that the conflict has to stop, that's almost half the battle won.


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First of all they needed a Leader and regardless of your choices you still are. Secondly the warden isn't tied to one thing as you saw in inquisition it doesn't matter what you are they need your help.

but I can see in my way that it is understandable why they would want my HoF.

pretty much a good guy, leliana knows that my warden is a good and natural leader and has experience with dealing with national emergencies, also famous, a national icon for ferelden. had dealings with the ferelden circle of magi, so he knows how to handle the situation with the mages and Templars.

Even if cass and leli found the HOF in time they would likely of delined the mission because of personal quest. would of been nice if cory had the power to remove the blight



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its more that they needed a figurehead. 

like Tom Cruse ti scientology if you catch my drift or Optimus Prime.

you need someone to be the guy in charge in a Crisis it may as well be someone famouse for being in charge in a crisis

and has done impossible things before.  



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Iron Bull said it - pick a leader because he's willing to make the hard choices and, live with the consequences - Both The HoF and Hawke had already proven themselves capable of that.


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Like others mention on here, it's a good thing that the HOF isn't the Inquisitor, as Corypheus would have won rather handedly. But without the benefit of hindsight, it makes sense to have a powerful and famous figure head for a new (or in this case really old I suppose) organization. I guess there's a small amount of people who believe there wasn't a Blight or many who wouldn't like one of the many backgrounds..... But there's plenty of people who don't believe the Inquisitor is the Herald of Andraste, and every race and many of the backgrounds from Origins are options for the Inquisitor, so they obviously aren't deal breakers. 



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None of these arguments for the Warden are really working for me. The race DOES matter. All that DOES matter. S/he had people helping him/her along the way and telling him/her what's what. Not to mention not everyone believes the Blight actually happened. This is a HUGE deterrent for choosing the Warden as the Inquisitor.

Isn't the only gentleman that speaks of the 5th blight being a conspiracy the lunatic in the hanged man?

 

This is also the same gentleman who believes that he's just a part of a story someone else is telling, saw a giant cheese wheel on a Chantry alter and believes women only exist to steal his life essence. Not the most reliable source, to say the least.

 

And without knowing that Corphyfish can respawn inside grey wardens I see no reason why they wouldn't want the HoF, if for nothing else the body count alone.

 

The better question is why they would want Hawke, in which the only time his(her) leadership skills have ever been put to the test it resulted in one of the bloodiest wars in recent history.


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Iron Bull said it - pick a leader because he's willing to make the hard choices and, live with the consequences - Both The HoF and Hawke had already proven themselves capable of that.

And HoF would have had Corysysis arm come out of their gut later.



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They started the Inquisition to end the mage rebellions, restore order, and re-establish the Circle of Magi. The wanted the HoF because they united the races of Thedas and ended a Blight in only 1 year(the shortest blight ever) with no Warden aid aside from a junior member, and Riordan. They are the most qualified person in all of Thedas to serve as Inquisitor.


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They started the Inquisition to end the mage rebellions, restore order, and re-establish the Circle of Magi. The wanted the HoF because they united the races of Thedas and ended a Blight in only 1 year(the shortest blight ever) with no Warden aid aside from a junior member, and Riordan. They are the most qualified person in all of Thedas to serve as Inquisitor.

This, exactly [and before "HoF would have died at Cory's hand"--yes, we know that now, but Cass and Lel didn't know that at the time. In hindsight, it's good the Warden wasn't around].

Proven track record with dealing with mages and abominations at Kinloch Hold (saving Cullen's life in the process, as a side note), and also killing the Archdemon (who was not "just a dragon", to answer up the thread a bit, but also the vessel of an Old God)--and, if they didn't sacrifice, being the only Warden in five Blights to have survived doing so. On top of that, they picked the dwarf king and settled the matter of the Ferelden throne, ending a Civil War (and have a decent chance of also being a political animal, if a Cousland--and/or Queen or king-consort themselves). They managed to get the Dalish to join in (or, alternatively, bring on freaking werewolves!). They may have also managed to get the Legion of the Dead to the surface for the first time in a very long time. On top of that, they are the Commander of the Grey in Ferelden, as well as the Arl/essa of Amaranthine. So, proven political track record. If the HoF romanced Zev and stayed a Warden, s/he also has connections to the Crows (and may, in fact, have acted with Zev as a leader in the Crows for a short time). And, of course, s/he was assisted by the notorious Witch of the Wilds (which Cass did know--even if Lel wasn't a part of DA:O, cf:

 

Cass: You expect me to believe Flemeth helped him/her [Hawke]?

Varric: Come on Seeker, do I need to recite the Tale of the Warden?

They found the Ashes, and the Temple. Ended an Undead threat in Redcliffe against all odds. Saved Eamon--and may have saved Connor and Isolde as well. And may have dealt with a bunch of undead at Warden's Keep.

They know how to deal with mages and the demonic forces that accompany them. And Alistair is also an ex-almost-Templar.

In contrast, Hawke made a bit of money, bought a house, ended a war with the Arishok and was partly responsible for the chaos in Kirkwall. And freed Corypheus. And irritated Orlais by killing Prosper de Montfort. And needed Cullen to step in to help save them (and thus the Circle of Life is closed, with the HoF ultimately being the reason Hawke's life was saved there ;) )

The real question is, why did they bother asking for Hawke? ;)


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Fame and killing people. Again, that goes hand in hand with the hero thing. There are other famous heroes who've killed the bad guys. Hell, Cassandra single-handedly killed a DRAGON.

 

One dead high dragon? That's nice. The Warden's potentially brought down five of them. ("Andraste", Flemeth, Archdemon, Queen of the Blackmarsh, and that one in the Dragonbone Wastes) Not alone, sure, but the Archdemon and the Queen of the Blackmarsh were both more powerful than an ordinary high dragon. On top of that, the Warden's fought Armored Ogre Alphas, Broodmothers, a Harvester, Pride Demons, all manner of human foes, every flavor of golems, including one that was taller than an ogre and ON FIRE, and a Varterral. This level of pure badassery is hard to find.

 

Also, I was going to explain the Warden's extensive political resume, but Bethgael covered that well. :)


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The Warden, at that point, is a nigh-unstoppable badass who handed the Archdemon it's head and along with aid, managed to unite Ferelden to smack the Blight - something that had never been done by one nation. Even as just a symbol, the Hero of Ferelden would be powerful as hell - how many people would be willing to flock to the banner of someone that had achieved that kind of glory?


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Yeah, but in Bioware's head cannon, the est path, the Hero of Fereldan sacrificed herself to kill the archdemon, so I'm sure HoF Quizzy was off the table. It would be nice to see my HoF, Hawke, or Quizzy get together in DLC or DA4. 

Personally, in my head cannon, my hero stopped the blight, dark ritual, warden commander, killed the Architect, killed Flemeth, was besties with Morrigan, romanced Zev, won land for the Dalish  (I liked to think my Hero convinced her clan to travel back to Fereldan after the events at Kirkwall, including Merill, and they were living in the Dalish land in the Hinterlands.) I got many ties to the continent/country. See, having the HoF being Quizzy would be no problem for me, but I know for most people it would be. 

I love the Darkspawn Chronicle/ Hero of Fereldan Chronicle idea. It might sell more than the original DAI.



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On further thought, Hawke has no political nouse at all--compared to The HoF. Even if the HoF plays "bad leader" (turns blood mage, has all possible followers leave them, etc), they still manage to end the Civil War and unite all of the races of Ferelden against the Blight. And that's before they go to Amaranthine. And even if they're a Casteless Dorf.

Hawke, otoh, can't even convince one Viscount to act appropriately with the Arishok or prevent the Chantry sister going stupid (or, alternatively, supports the backlash against the Qunari), and either supports Anders or cannot convince him--one person!--to turn from his path. Even if they're lovers. And cannot convince Cullen that Meredith needs looking at more closely (or supports Meredith). Doesn't warn his/her own mother that a murderer that targets older women is on the loose---evn when Leandra talks about her new suitor. Cannot convince the Grand Cleric she needs to freaking act, now, dammit (because a "loving mother" knows when to sit their damned squabbling kids down and tell them to stop that garbage, right now. Cough, sorry, as a mother of 5 now teen-to-adult aged boys, that line of the Grand Cleric's always shytes me to tears). Cannot convince Seneschal Bran s/he should be Viscount without the aid of a Templar Commander who is, by that time, batguano insane.

May have massacred an entire Dalish Clan. Possibly the HoF's clan, if the HoF was a Dalish that survived. (I wonder how that conversation would have gone? Oy vey.)

The HoF united. Hawke? Divisive.

ETA: Don't get me wrong. I love my Hawkes. Most of them. One really peeved me--but... no one needs to know that, never mind. But, really, s/he's kind of useless, politically.


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