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[X Equestris]

Seriously? We're actually going to make that comparison? It's not a few people who think this. There are COUNTRIES that don't believe the Fifth Blight occurred.
Even if they didn't it doesn't explain why the Warden. I doubt s/he's the only one who's ever done anything useful that is still alive.

Where did you get that from? The only person I recall claiming that the Blight never occurred was that fellow in the Hanged Man.

[DarkSpiral]

I remember reading it in Lore somewhere. Keep in mind Ferelden is looked down upon and essentially considered barbaric, which would likely add to the skepticism some may have on the legitimacy of the Fifth Blight.

Um...you might want to go back and check up on that one, Challenge.  The only lore entry I recall that mentioned that there are people that aren't sure if the Fifth Blight was a Blight is the one of the Sister Petrine entries.  She mentions that some of her peers are uncertain if the Fifth Blight can be considered a Blight, but thats it.  The idea that whole countries don't believe the Fifth Blight was actually a Blight simply isn't there.

 

So, yes, X Equestis' comparison is fairly valid.  The overwhelming majority of people accept that Ferelden suffered a true Blight.

 

 

Even if they didn't it doesn't explain why the Warden. I doubt s/he's the only one who's ever done anything useful that is still alive.

 

Such as?  Cassandra doesn't want the job, Hawke might be the Champion of Ferelden, but foiling a insurrection by stranded Qunari doesn't even remotely compare to ending a Blight after only one year, and in the middle of a brewing civil war to boot.  They don't just need someone competent, they need a rallying point for the Inquisition's followers, and a figure of respect to give their enemies pause.

 

Frankly, the Hero of Ferelden fits that bill perfectly, even if they're a an evil bastard.  The Inquisition under Justinia wasn't going to be an independent entity in the first place, it was going to be part of the Chantry, and thus subject to the Divine's authority.

 

EDIT: Found it.  Study of the Fifth Blight, Vol 1

[errantknight]

This seems more like a pro Cassandra thread than anything else. HoF because she/he is a Thedas Super hero..like someone said before.

 

Cass should be a super heroine, but they demoted her to mook number 5238. She is called the whatever hand of the Divine, but every other Seeker just treats her like she is just one of the guys and the Chantry treats her like dog trained to fetch. Also her Dragon Slaying is useless in this game. Dragon Slaying techniques by butt, she never did anything but put up her shield and stand in it's fire unless her control was baby sat the entire time. 

 

Ps she should have looked like an older version of how she did in the movie. I found her far prettier there than in game. 

It's not her fault that you can't play your companions, lol  

[Bladenite1481]

It's not her fault that you can't play your companions, lol

Ouch that hurt, really it did. Or it would if I wanted to play them, I don't. I just want them to do what I tell them to do through tactics, which I used to be able to. I can play her just fine, I don't like to baby sit ie manually control the other characters and I beat the game on Nightmare with friendly fire toggled on. So yeah, there goes your argument.

 

More to the point, since it seemed to go right over your head. I still see nothing in her repertoire that had anything remotely to do with killing dragons which is the point of Dragon Slaying in case you missed the very basic nomenclature there. 

[Former_Fiend]

The Hero of Ferelden may not be universally loved, but s/he is virtually universally respected. They stopped a Blight within a year, and are potentially the only grey warden in history to slay an arch demon and live. 

 

They managed to solve the Orzamar succession crisis, end the Ferelden Civil War, put a stop to the situation at the circle tower.

 

The need for the Inquisitor before the breach was to have someone who could put an end to the Mage/Templar war. Those accomplishments make the HoF particularly qualified for such an undertaking, regardless of whether or not they were a good person.

[Vilegrim]

Single handedly? No. Having people hold him/her by the hand and telling him/her how things work? Yes.
And MUST I mention it again? NOT EVERYONE BELIEVES THE FIFTH BLIGHT HAPPENED. 
Not to mention that the Inquisition is Orlesian-based, and Orlesians and Fereldens have a BAD relationship.

Still a better place to start than Hawke or the Herald, Hawke as a second choice sort of maybe worked, Herald has to etart from scratch and requires myth spinning big style.

[Nightdragon8]

They wheren't looking for an Inquisitor to deal with Cory they where looking for an Inquisitor to deal with the mage/templar issue.

 

And Ash has it the other way around, they where going to make the Inquision anyway, if the Conclave would have worked out, she may have then called off the Inquisition at that point.

[DarkSpiral]

Exactly.

[Aren]

The HoF has the same rank as Duncan as of Awakening he/she becomes Commander of the Grey for Ferelden.  Pretty much the only person over him/her would be the First Warden at Weisshaupt.  

no in order they are    

 

First warden (only 1)

Chamberlein of the wardens  (only 1)

warden commander  (1 for every nation)

wardens    (>1000)

recruits

[Aren]

but not a archdemon, the most powerful and evil creature ever existed.

archedemon are stupid their calling is dangerous, without that power they are just like corypheus dragon.

Ad by the way among them Archedemon Dumat was the real problem not the others.

 

The Archdemon was powerful, yes, but considering the ease with which Riordan was able to harm it with just his swords I would not call it the most powerful to ever exist. Its danger lied mostly in its ability to hop from one host to another and the fact that it surrounded itself by a horde.

Indedd, i belive that in the fade there are monster (dont know super nightmare pride demon) more dangerous, or the deep roads is the home of  monsters more dangerous than them.

[TheJediSaint]

Ending a Blight is a nice thing to have on your resume.

[Aurok]

It made sense that Cass & Leliana wanted to talk to Hawke about what happened, but it never made sense that they were considering him for Inquisitor. The guy basically exacerbated every situation he ever came into contact with.

[errantknight]

Ouch that hurt, really it did. Or it would if I wanted to play them, I don't. I just want them to do what I tell them to do through tactics, which I used to be able to. I can play her just fine, I don't like to baby sit ie manually control the other characters and I beat the game on Nightmare with friendly fire toggled on. So yeah, there goes your argument.

 

More to the point, since it seemed to go right over your head. I still see nothing in her repertoire that had anything remotely to do with killing dragons which is the point of Dragon Slaying in case you missed the very basic nomenclature there. 

Jokes. They're a thing. Guess that went over your head, oh thin skinned one, lol.

[Emu8207]

Hero Of Fereldan does fit the bill but there's one problem, he/she could be dead and I'd rather Bioware not do any more retcons like Leliana for instance. Since you could kill her in Temple Of Sacred Ashes but if you transfer that file over, she's with Cass at the end of DA2.

[errantknight]

Hero Of Fereldan does fit the bill but there's one problem, he/she could be dead and I'd rather Bioware not do any more retcons like Leliana for instance. Since you could kill her in Temple Of Sacred Ashes but if you transfer that file over, she's with Cass at the end of DA2.

I think you better get used to multiple possibilities in world states. That's why they have the keep and why they have--for example, Stroud and Alistair, The warden and the Orlesian warden, etc. Leliana is the only case where someone came back after seeming to die rather than being potentially replaced by another character and I'd be surprised if that wasn't a plot point that will be explained somewhere down the road in that I expect they had the plot outlined for multiple games from word go. If that's the case, there's a reason for it.

[Bethgael]

As a side note, there is actually an in-game banter between Cassandra and Varric (I just heard it), in which he (rightly) points out that she's the highest ranked person in the Inquisition and she (rightly) says Lel's matches her own, and she also declares herself not the best choice for leader.

In other words, she doesn't want it.

Also, even if it is true that people don't believe the Blight happened elsewhere (and it's not), that's irrelevant. The important people involved in the whole Inquisition conversation: Cassandra, Leliana, Varric, Justinia, down to the less important ones who can confirm on the spot in Kirkwall: Cullen, for example -- they all know it did.

[Wulfram]

There's also the awkward thing that Leliana apparently knows what the Hero of Fereldan is up to - if romanced, anyway.  So she was just messing with Cassandra or something?