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[TSHawkins]

Howdy,

 

Decided to put this question in the origins forum in hopes to find some more of the diehard gamers and their experience/wisdom.

 

I've beaten DA:O once (DW Dalish Elf Rogue, eh) and am mid way through the second play through (2H Noble Human Warrior, eh) a ways back and wondering why the heck I haven't played through the rest of the games. So I've bought all the DLC, and the other games following. But all this importing/new character quest line progression has me rather confused.

 

1.Should I start a new guy from Origins, and play all the way through to the end of Inquisition with the same one? How much forethought would this require in regards to specific lore progression? Which class would have the most... benefits through the games?

2. Would making a new guy at Awakening and importing him to DA2 and on make any huge differences? (Gameplay/story)

3. Alternatively should I just make a new guy for Awakening, then another at DA2, then a fresh guy at Inquisition?

4. I only play on nightmare so would one route be easier than the other?

 

Sincere appreciation for your time and wisdom.

 

Thanks in advance,

Tim

[caradoc2000]

You play as a different character in all three games - DAO, DA2 and DAI. You can import your DAO choices into DA2 and you can use the Keep to import your DAO and DA2 choices into DAI.

[TSHawkins]

You play as a different character in all three games - DAO, DA2 and DAI. You can import your DAO choices into DA2 and you can use the Keep to import your DAO and DA2 choices into DAI.

 

That part I understand, thus all the questions. 

[Monica21]

That part I understand, thus all the questions. 

 

I'm a bit confused then, because your questions are stated as if you're carrying over the same character from game to game like Mass Effect, for example.

 

A specific race, gender or class doesn't matter as far as lore progression goes. Your Origins and DA2 characters are referenced in Inquisition, so if you have a preference with regard to those, then all you really have to do is load up a new game, save it, import both characters the Keep, and then make your choices within the Keep.

[TSHawkins]

I'm a bit confused then, because your questions are stated as if you're carrying over the same character from game to game like Mass Effect, for example.

 

A specific race, gender or class doesn't matter as far as lore progression goes. Your Origins and DA2 characters are referenced in Inquisition, so if you have a preference with regard to those, then all you really have to do is load up a new game, save it, import both characters the Keep, and then make your choices within the Keep.

 

Oh, so it's basically three different games? How exactly are they references in Inquistion if you can answer that without spoilers it would be greatly preferred. ha ha

 

And what is "the keep" I keep hearing about?

[Merle McClure II]

My advice is to not worry about getting "the best" results/endings and instead simply let your character make whatever choices they would make without metagame knowledge.


In my opinion, Origins/Awakening feels "right" as either a human noble (either gender) or as a city elf (female). --My personal Canon is a Human Mage (female). -- Bioware's Canon is a Dalish Elf (female) if I remember correctly.

Hawke (either gender) in Dragon Age II just makes a lot more sense as a Mage and if I remember correctly Bioware's Canon Hawke is a Mage (male).

I don't expect we'll get Bioware's Canon Inquisitior until Dragon Age IV.

[Monica21]

Oh, so it's basically three different games? How exactly are they references in Inquistion if you can answer that without spoilers it would be greatly preferred. ha ha

 

And what is "the keep" I keep hearing about?

 

Yep, separate games, just set in the same universe. I can't answer the question without getting spoilery, but your Origins character and your DA2 character have a big impact on the world as shaped in Inquisition, so there are definite references to those two previous characters.

 

The Keep is a website Bioware created to get around the potential for buggy imports in previous games: https://dragonagekeep.com/ You just need an Origin account to log in and then you can import whatever characters you've created. The Keep only knows race, gender, and class. It does not import decisions in Origins and DA2. You have to do that within the website, and then that gives you the correct import settings for your Inquisition world.

[TSHawkins]

My advice is to not worry about getting "the best" results/endings and instead simply let your character make whatever choices they would make without metagame knowledge.


In my opinion, Origins/Awakening feels "right" as either a human noble (either gender) or as a city elf (female). --My personal Canon is a Human Mage (female). -- Bioware's Canon is a Dalish Elf (female) if I remember correctly.

Hawke (either gender) in Dragon Age II just makes a lot more sense as a Mage and if I remember correctly Bioware's Canon Hawke is a Mage (male).

I don't expect we'll get Bioware's Canon Inquisitior until Dragon Age IV.

 

Hmmmm. I appreciate the imput, I suppose you are right as to the lack of metagame knowledge providing the best experience.

 

What does canon mean by the way?

 

Yep, separate games, just set in the same universe. I can't answer the question without getting spoilery, but your Origins character and your DA2 character have a big impact on the world as shaped in Inquisition, so there are definite references to those two previous characters.

 

The Keep is a website Bioware created to get around the potential for buggy imports in previous games: https://dragonagekeep.com/ You just need an Origin account to log in and then you can import whatever characters you've created. The Keep only knows race, gender, and class. It does not import decisions in Origins and DA2. You have to do that within the website, and then that gives you the correct import settings for your Inquisition world.

 

If origins and awakening have such a big impact on the world, are you referring to just race, gender, and class? If so, how bland would the game be if I just made a new character within Inquisition?

[Monica21]

If origins and awakening have such a big impact on the world, are you referring to just race, gender, and class? If so, how bland would the game be if I just made a new character within Inquisition?

 

Well, let me put it this way. "Big impact" should be taken with a very large grain of salt. There's only so much Bioware can do within the game world and keep it consistent. Most of the impact you get is in dialogue or codex entries. For example, if you play a female mage in Origins and you romance Cullen as a female mage in Inquisition, you get a few additional lines of dialogue, but not much.

Spoiler

The Landsmeet choice and the Dark Ritual are the two major decisions in Origins that carry over to the Inquisition, but for the most part, the actual content of the game doesn't change.

 

If you just make a new character within Inquisition, you can look at the Default World State in the Keep to see what your world will look like. It's not bland, it's just not necessarily yours.

[sylvanaerie]

If you play all three, you will need to complete Origins.  For the full experience, complete Origins out to the end of Awakening (at least) then play through at least Witch Hunt--though you may like the other 'post game' DLC's--that's up to you.  I'd recommend playing the original warden you created in Origins for this purpose for the maximum connectivity as I found the 'replacement' guy you get for Awakenings to have a rather bland disconnected feel to him/her.  But that's up to you.

 

DA2 will require a save to import as you won't be playing the Warden for that one, but you can import your world state (who you picked to rule Ferelden, who may have survived the Blight and events in Awakenings etc) and so forth.

 

Once those are done, you won't need to import anything else.  Keep maintains a world state of your decisions in it's files.  In order to do this, you must select your PC's from the original game then go through each decision you made in your game and select it.  This part is kind of self explanatory once you get into it.  Now, this is important:

 

1) It only selects the most basic information from your protagonists from both games, such as who they are (Surana, Cousland, Hawke etc), gender and class, but not appearance, although the card showing your warden/Hawke will have his/her portrait on it.  It doesn't save any of the choices you made in the games, you will have to go into your world state and select everything by hand or it uses 'default' settings to create your choices.  In this way you create your own world, specifying who traveled with you, who you romanced, what choices you made etc.

 

2) Once you have your world state, lock it and export it into Inquisition's files.  If you don't export, it won't recognize your world state and when you try to boot up your Inquisition game, it will select default world state as your game world.

[Merle McClure II]

Canon is basically what "really happened" in the storyline, Bioware has chosen their default Canon, but each player will have their own.

[TSHawkins]

Canon is basically what "really happened" in the storyline, Bioware has chosen their default Canon, but each player will have their own.

 

What really happened, as in, a book? Or the lore in which the game is made from? Where did the term canon come from?

 

Thank you all for your replies.

[Merle McClure II]

What "really" happened in your own personal play through of Dragon Age 1 & 2, for people who hasn't played the game Bioware has come up with their own default history.

 

 

As for the term Canon itself, I think the usage has been stolen from the reglious context, as in only the "Canon" is true.

[caradoc2000]

Here is more details about the term "canon".

 

In DAI, for example, if you choose not to use the Keep, the default world state uses the canonical events of DAO/DA2: the Warden was a female Dalish elf who did the US, and Hawke was a male mage who sided with the mages.