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[VilniusNastavnik]

So.. I was thinking of a build that makes full use of the various means of healing available through crafting and talents, as I want to do a warrior as my next play through but do not want to rely on guard. I am still trying to work out the whole talent allocations but at the moment, I am just looking at weapons and armor..

naturally a lot of farming emprise du lion is required thanks to the RNG..

I generally play as an archer so playing as a warrior is rather foreign and so any suggestions or improvements would he ideal.

Basically I want to make full use of the Health on kill, Health on hit, 25% health over 10 seconds master crafts etc. It still needs some fleshing out.. but what I am currently looking at is this.

Helmet: Any - Not race restricted
Body: Superior Battlemaster Mail
Arms: Battlemaster Mail
Legs: Battlemaster Coat (or mail, 4 cloth def or 4 leather defense.. your choise)

 

Ring 1: Superb ring of life steal

Ring 2: Your choice. I would go with Stagger or Attack.. Bleeding once patched

Belt: Superb belt of healing

Amulet: Superb amulet of constitution

 

Armor

Spoiler

Armor: Superior battlemaster mail:

10 def metal

4 def cotton

 

Arms: Battlemaster mail:

12 def metal

 

Legs: Battlemaster coat:

8 def cloth

4 def metal

 

Shield

Spoiler

Shield: Noble shield

8 def cloth

4 def metal

 

Shield: Masterwork Sentinel shield

10 uti metal

4 off metal

 

Shield: Dwarven proving shield

12 def metal

 

Sword

Spoiler

Sword: Masterwork Tevinter longsword

6 uti metal

4 off metal

4 off leather (Use wyvern scales when bleed is no longer bugged)

 

Grip: Masterwork skull

9 off metal

3 uti metal

 

Grip: Curved

7 off cloth

3 off metal

 

Axe / Mace

Spoiler

Axe: Serpent's rage (Easy to get at low levels: get to skyhold, get to the hissing wastes and use mount to avoid the camps.. spiders can be killed easily. I have a thread on the wiki on tomb combinations)

10 off metal

4 uti metal

 

Mace: Griffin Mace

4 off metal

10 uti metal

 

Haft: Masterwork ornate one handed haft

12 uti metal

 

Haft: Wrapped one handed haft

7 off cloth

3 off metal

 

Axe / Maul

Spoiler

Axe: Hossberg twainer

12 off cloth

6 off metal

 

Axe: Anderfels cleaver

14 off metal

6 uti cloth

 

Maul: Sata-kas Iss

6 off leather

6 off cloth

6 uti metal

 

Maul: Warhammer

12 off leather

6 off cloth

 

Haft: Masterwork engraved 2H haft

11 off metal

 

Pommel: Wrapped pommel

9 off metal

 

Pommel: Masterwork horned pommel

8 uti metal

3 off metal

 

Greatsword

Spoiler

Sword: Masterwork Serrated Greatsword

14 uti metal

6 off metal

 

Sword: Balanced Greatsword

12 off cloth

6 uti metal

 

Grip: Masterwork ornate greatsword

grip 11 off metal

 

Pommel: Wrapped pommel

9 off metal

 

Pommel: Masterwork horned pommel

8 uti metal

3 off metal

 

Rune: Fire; because why not?

 

Base metal: Always silverite or everite.. Dragonbone looks like crap.

 

Material Attributes:

Spoiler

Healing from all sources:

Defence Cotton 2%

Illustrious vestment 3%

lustrious cotton 2.5%

 

Chance to heal on kill:

Offense Samite 1.5%

Lustrious cotton 1.75%

Infused vyrantium samite 2%

Imperial vestment cotton 2%

Darkened samite 1.75%

Cotton 1.5%

 

Health: Defense

Bloodstone 13

dawnstone 15

drakestone 10

pyrite 13

summerstone 10

volcanic aurum 15

 

Constitution: Utility

Bloodstone 1.5

dawnstone 1.75

drakestone 1

pyrite 1.5

summerstone 1

volcanic aurum 1.75

 

Attack: offense

Everite 1.75

iron 1

Paragons luster 1.5

serpentstone 1.5

stormheart 1.75

Veridium 1.5

Seralt infused glass 1.5

 

Mastercraft: Oh hit: Heal 1% of maximum health

Fade touched Snoufleur Skin

 

Mastercraft: Heal X% damage taken over 10 seconds

Fade touched dawnstone 25

Fade touched Everite 25

Fade touched iron 15

Fade touched paragons luster 20

NOTE: Heal bonus does not affect Devour

[VilniusNastavnik]

Max Stats.

Armor

Spoiler

Armor: Superior battlemaster mail:

??? Armor

390 Health

12% Healing from all sources

7% range defence

Heal 25% max health over 10 seconds 

 

Shield

Spoiler

Shield: Noble shield

24% healing from all sources

60 Health

 

Shield: Masterwork Sentinel shield

17.5 (18) Constitution

7% attack

 

Shield: Dwarven proving shield

180 Health

 

Sword

Spoiler

Sword: Masterwork Tevinter longsword

10.5 (11) constitution

7% attackoff metal

7% bleed on hit (bugged)

 

Grip: Masterwork skull

15.75 (16) Attack

5.25 (6) Constitution

 

Grip: Curved

14 Healt on kill

5.25% (6) attack

 

Axe / Mace

Spoiler

Axe: Serpent's rage (Easy to get at low levels: get to skyhold, get to the hissing wastes and use mount to avoid the camps.. spiders can be killed easily. I have a thread on the wiki on tomb combinations)

17.5% (18) Attack

7 Constitution

 

Mace: Griffin Mace

7% attack

17.5 (18) Constitution

 

Haft: Masterwork ornate one handed haft

21 Constitution

 

Haft: Wrapped one handed haft

14% Health on kill

5.25% (6) Attack

 

Axe / Maul

Spoiler

Axe: Hossberg twainer

24% Health on kill

10.5% (11) Attack

 

Axe: Anderfels cleaver

24.5% (25) Attack

10.5 (11) Willpower

 

Maul: Sata-kas Iss

10.5% (11) Bleed on hit

12% health on kill

10.5 (11) Constitution

 

Maul: Warhammer

21% Bleed on hit

12% health on kill

 

Haft: Masterwork engraved 2H haft

19.25% (20) Attack

 

Pommel: Wrapped pommel

15.75% (16) Attack

 

Pommel: Masterwork horned pommel

14 Constituion

5.25% (6)Attack

 

Greatsword

Spoiler

Sword: Masterwork Serrated Greatsword

24.5 (25) Constitution

10.5% (11) Attack

 

Sword: Balanced Greatsword

24% health on kill

10.5 (11) Constititon

 

Grip: Masterwork ornate greatsword grip

19.25% (20) Attack

 

Pommel: Wrapped pommel

15.75% (16) Attack

 

Pommel: Masterwork horned pommel

14 constitution

5.25% (6) Attack

[VilniusNastavnik]

Reserved for talents.

[Danadenassis]

I didn't know it was any health on hit.

And what does healing increase really increase? Is it potions only given that it is only 1 group heal spell, 1 healing grenade and reaver self-heal?

[VilniusNastavnik]

Any healing, potions (healing, regen, mist grenade), reaver's devour, Health on hit, health on kill, 25% health over 10 seconds master crafted, if it heals you, it boosts it.

[wepeel_]

It's a good idea.. are you aiming to play as tank or damage, and what spec? While health on hit seems well worth boosting, health on kill appears to suffer from the issue that when you're likely to need it the most (facing difficult enemies), there generally won't be a lot of extras around to kill (though in some battles with add summoning mechanics I guess it can serve as a kind of restoration phase). On groups of regular enemies it seems unlikely that you would lose much health to begin with unless you go out of your way to take damage.

[VilniusNastavnik]

Reaver, DPS w. Taunt to draw aggro.. I know.. not the brightest of moves.. but need more around you to drink their vital fluids, that and there will be a lot of self mutilation. Still working out the talents however.

[Elfgahr]

I doubt there's any Heal on Hit.

Assuming there's only Heal on Kill, how will this kill be effective during one enemy battle such as High Dragons. Plus, would it not be effective only if you are the one deliver the killing blow, what if your team steal your kill?

[VilniusNastavnik]

I doubt there's any Heal on Hit.

Assuming there's only Heal on Kill, how will this kill be effective during one enemy battle such as High Dragons. Plus, would it not be effective only if you are the one deliver the killing blow, what if your team steal your kill?

I'm just going to assume you have not gotten to the Exalted plains yet. Your doubt has been tried, weighed and found wanting.



If the ally steals the kill.. no problem.. What do you think warcry is for? Where most Reavers want to have as little aggro drawn as possible to leap around the battlefield.. I want to be in the thick of it taking all the hits. 

If I have 66% health boost from armor.. the health on hit goes from 1% to 1.66% taking dragon rage's cost down to 0.34% of max health.. Add that to the 25% health over 10 seconds fade touched item.. hell, since this is a SnSh build, you get a third fade touched slot, chuck on obsidian chain lightning, or a 75% weapon damage on kill explosive material and watch your health maintain at a high enough rate so as to not need guard. 

[zeypher]

Infact going for HP is better than guard as  best guard is 5 per hit, maximum is guard is always 25% of base health. so at 700 hp its 175. A warrior can reach 900+ hp easy and any hp after 500 the 1% hp per hit pays a lot better than guard will ever do.

 

I have been trying this and honestly even on my rogue, the 1% heal is a lot better than guard. I personally believe a lot of people have oversold guard by quite a bit.

[zeypher]

Btw the 25% damage as healing, does it work only for the last damage received or all damage received. Meaning if i get 2 hits will i get 25% heal for both those hits or only the last hit i took?

[VilniusNastavnik]

Last damage received. 

[zeypher]

Hmm someones testing says slightly differently. Maybe good to check just in case cause could prove useful

 

http://forum.bioware...ics/?p=18144319

[WillieStyle]

Infact going for HP is better than guard as  best guard is 5 per hit, maximum is guard is always 25% of base health. so at 700 hp its 175. A warrior can reach 900+ hp easy and any hp after 500 the 1% hp per hit pays a lot better than guard will ever do.

 

I have been trying this and honestly even on my rogue, the 1% heal is a lot better than guard. I personally believe a lot of people have oversold guard by quite a bit.

 

Doesn't guard make you immune to pysical effects like poison and stagger?

[xnarcosysx]

A 2H champion using this setup would be pretty good.

[wepeel_]

Some people have seen it already, but according to this thread devour isn't affected by healing bonus. Since this is the vampire build thread, it might be good to have it here too.

[zeypher]

Yup thanks for bringing it up.

[VilniusNastavnik]

Cheers, coulda sworn it does.. updated OP with a note mentioning it.

[Rynas]

So how is this working out so far?  I've been playing around with "Heal 25% of damage taken over 10 seconds" and it's pretty good when combined with Barrier, but I'm not sure how well it would work with Guard.  Is all that healing you have enough to keep you alive?

[VilniusNastavnik]

I'll tell ya once I manage to get back onto single player to test it with Iron Bull. Been working on a lot of other things lately that I kept pushing my own theorycraft testing back.  

[Biotic Flash Kick]

Maybe this is only me but running heavy heavy guard and various heal over ten seconds seem to do weird things. 

 

I tested this on a SnS Reaver Quiz. Got all damage reduction skills and + guard capacity skills and my gear was:
Armor heal 25% over 10 seconds

Shield: +5 guard

one hander: 3 seconds of walking fortress.

 

Basically i dropped myself to 50>% HP by jumping off cliffs a couple times. without my gear.

Put my gear on built up all my guard between shield wall / unbowed.

I ran into trash mobs with my guard never breaking + walking fort and kept coming out with more and more health.

60-65% then 80~% health. 

 

basically, I have no other explanation other than I am healing damage "I have" but have not taken. 

No reaver abilities used either. 

 

Did the same thing.

Jumped off cliffs without gear

Put on gear, fight trash but use barrier and no guard abilities. 

After 3 mobs I was at full health after never having my health bar take damage. 

 

Is this a bug?

[Rynas]

It's not a bug as far as I know.  The game seems to accept Guard and Barrier damage as "damage taken."  Since Barrier isn't affected by armor or any resistances, the "Heal X% of damage taken" items are very powerful when combined with it.

 

Also, in my limited testing, the different types seem to stack.  I basically dropped myself to about 10% health and then let a Revenant smack my barrier.  With the 25% version (Dawnstone), it healed a lot, but never to full health.  With the 25% on armor and 20% version on my staff, it healed me to full health every time.

[chawk84]

Hey TC, you mentioned the Masterwork Tevinter Longsword above..have you managed to get it? If so where did you find it, because so far the only person to be confirmed as having it has said he hacked the game to get it...No one has found it..

[zeypher]

Cheat engine, i finally used it and got the sword schematic that way. Screw the BS RNG for schematics.

[chawk84]

Well if everyone uses the cheat engine, some people say Low RNG, maybe it's not at all...maybe it's locked or something...I truly don't think it's obtainable..I have farmed every day since the first week of this games release when people started figuring this stuff out..it's really BS and frustrating..