Well of course not, when it's established in lore that only mages become abominations.
Actually, I think anyone can become an abomination but the difference is an abomination from a mage is way more powerful than an abomination from a regular person.
It was all very 'wtf?' for me, that's for sure. I respect Cassandra as a character, but in all that reading that's all she's willing to tell and the Inquisitor who should just go along with her wanting to reform the Seekers? Based on the little amount of information she's willing to share? And after finding out the Seekers' other half is yet another doomsday cult?
I think that she has enough sense to do the right thing so I usually leave it up to her, but I'll be damned if I didn't want to know what else was in the book.
Yeah... Bless her heart, but I really didn't get the vibe that she's great leadership material, regarding this at least. She straight-up says she doesn't even know what the hell to do with reformed Seekers anyway. So I just told her to forget it, as I was banking on making her Divine anyways.
Still though, where the hell is the "That's alright. Give me the book, don't trouble your wearied mind" option?
I do have suspicions that the Seekers might be "perfectly merged" or "replicated". I don't buy that "only touched by an Angel" stuff.
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Replicated would make sense. The spirit wouldn't know it's a spirit and think it's Cassandra while wearing her skin. For all intents and purposes it would be Cassandra, but with spell purging powers.
That's some crazy **** right there. I imagine that this is what Spirit Warrior in DA:O was supposed to be.
Actually, I think anyone can become an abomination but the difference is an abomination from a mage is way more powerful than an abomination from a regular person.
Nah. Only mages become abominations, but mages aren't the only ones in danger of possession. Trees become sylvans, wereanimals are formed from possessed animals, or are infected by possessed animals, revenants are simply powerful spirits/demons possessing dead warriors.
I do have suspicions that the Seekers might be "perfectly merged" or "replicated". I don't buy that "only touched by an Angel" stuff.
It does beg the question on HOW the Seekers get a very specific type of spirit to do exactly WHAT they want it to do.
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It does beg the question on HOW the Seekers get a very specific type of spirit to do exactly WHAT they want it to do.
Specificity isn't even the issue. Faith spirits are rare as **** as things are. Solas and Cole both mention this.
It does beg the question on HOW the Seekers get a very specific type of spirit to do exactly WHAT they want it to do.
Well, I'd imagine that those they tend to recruit are extremely pious. Their faith would act as the beacon that draws a spirit of Faith in turn. Even then, I get the feeling that failure rates are high. Indeed, it seems that when a mage tried to join their order and failed, that is when they chose to apply the practice in the Circles.
But... How are the Seekers rendered Tranquil without their knowledge? If the Lord Seeker is the only one to actually know of the process at any time, is it the Lord Seeker that has to personally render each candidate Tranquil?
If they are branded with Lyrium, are the scars not permanent? I remember that the Tranquil in DA:2 had the Chantry's sun motif burned right onto their foreheads, but neither the Tranquil in DA:O or DA:I had such markings. Since DA:I ruled out a visual retcon like what happened with the Qunari, that means it was just a Kirkwall thing. Yes, that's the kind of Circle Meredith was running... and the Seekers found nothing wrong with this.
Actually, I think anyone can become an abomination but the difference is an abomination from a mage is way more powerful than an abomination from a regular person.
Word of God says only mages can become abominations.
@The Baconer There is a DAI Tranquil with the sunburst motif, she hang around Mother Giselle in Haven most of the time (the blond elf who is most probably Avexis from Dawn of the Seeker).
It does beg the question on HOW the Seekers get a very specific type of spirit to do exactly WHAT they want it to do.
Spirits are attracted to specific ideals. The Seekers one year of fasting, prayer and seclusion (aka the vigil) is probably meant for them to think only about devotion and faith and thus becoming a beacon for Spirit of Faith. Finding the spirit is probably harder than getting it to touch the new tranquil.
Although, it is possible the Seekers have their own Spirit of Faith on call. In DAO mage origin, the pride demon suggest he works for the templar/mages in the harrowing.
@The Baconer There is a DAI Tranquil with the sunburst motif, she hang around Mother Giselle in Haven most of the time (the blond elf who is most probably Avexis from Dawn of the Seeker).
Ah, I did not see that. Still, Helisma doesn't have one, I'm pretty sure Clemence doesn't have one, and Maddox doesn't have one. That last case is the most curious, because I think Maddox was made Tranquil in Kirkwall. Overall, since the forehead brand does not appear to be mandatory, it's clearly just abusive with no good reason or basis.
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That's how Meredith got down yo. She didn't deal in maybes. If you're a Tranq I want to see that **** stamped on your forehead so I don't have to wonder why you're drooling when I address you.
Word of God says only mages can become abominations.
spoilers for stuff besides Promise of Destruction:
I know people don't like JoH being discussed but I would recommend playing this because there is a relevance to the discussion at hand. The original Inquisition did, after all, morph into the Seekers of Truth and the Templar Order. I must admit I was a bit puzzled why we needed the Seekers to be reformed unless it was assumed that the Inquisition was going to disband after getting rid of Corypheus. I left it up to Cassandra. Since the Inquisition seems as much a political as a spiritual organisation, if she reforms the Seekers specifically to be a non-political organisation working at a local level to protect ordinary people from magical abuse, that might have a purpose, particularly in the case of Leliana as Divine, since she dissolves the Circles and has no need for Templars. However, this will now mean there are lots of mages in the community, some less benign than others and also mage children running around without guidance in a lot of cases.
well the inquisitor is not better than the seekers he hide the origin ofhis power to look like a maker gift and take the authority over people , the seeker was the old inquisition and the inquisition reformed itselfin the same way the it formed it self in the past
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