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[C0uncil0rTev0s]

I mean, people, please...

Companions are be balanced and fine as they are, you know. Like 1 of a type for everybody!

 

That applies to sexuality, too. We have here in DA:I a straight male LI (Cass), a straight female LI (Curlie, forgot his actual name, sorry), straight female elf LI (Chuckles) - first time in a franchise, few bisexual chars (Josie, Iron Bull), gay female char (Sera), gay male char (Dorian).
Didn't make a female dwarf, maybe there's an exclusive option for Varric. I don't know.

 

That's perfectly fine I tell ya!

 

Please be a lil bit more honest to others and don't ask gay romance patch advantages over other sexual appearances. Bioware tends to listen.

 

Thank you, friends.

Merry Christmas!

[UPD] A lot of people got the point of my message wrong due to my stubborness. I didn't mean that gay relationships are somewhat wrong, or that same abusive behaviour from straight people is welcome, or anything like that. Point is that the romancing characters are fine as they are in DA: I and they surely don't need any tweaks.
And again, I'm the one with a hand up for total pansexuality of all romanceable characters from the start. It may take a lot of effort to write all the lines for both gender romances, but it is worthwhile IMHO.

[AlexiaRevan]

Wow...

 

And here I liked ya...

 

Now I'm heartbroken . 

 

Seriously , there are too many gay ?? Seriously ??

 

Considering that in the whole games market outta there...only Bioware give us anything....while you still get something..it is too much ??? 

 

I have 2 romance and so do ya . Its fair...how is that too much ?? 

 

female hetero get : Blackwall , Iron bull and Cullen . 

Lesbien get : Sera and Josie 

Male Gay get : Dorian and Iron Bull 

Male Hetero get : Cass and Josie 

[Chinadrgn]

I respectfully disagree. I always play hetero but I like to see romances of every sort get screen time. Choices are always good.

[Aralyne]

Canonly speaking, there are only two exclusively "gay" characters since Iron Bull is pansexual and Josephine is bisexual and thus can go either way. How two, out of eight characters equates to "too much gay" is beyond me. Okay, fine, Solas is race gated, but he's still an option for straight females playing elves and you can't romance Cullen on a qunari or dwarf, but those factors aside, neither are gay and are available to straight females. 

[heretica]

seriously, op?

[daveliam]

So.......what you are asking for is what we already have for gay relationships.  You realize that, right?

 

You want "one of each type".  We've got one gay guy.  We've got one bisexual guy.  We've got one lesbian.  We've got one bisexual gal. 

 

If you want "one of each type", you should probably rephrase this thread as "too many straight relationships" because we've got more than one straight guy in the group. 

 

Figured I'd help you out with that, since you seemed to be mistaken.

 

Also, I'm being totally "honest" when I ask for more gay relationships.  It's "honestly" what I want to see.  Not sure if it's a language thing, but I don't think "honest" is the word that you meant either. 

[Battlebloodmage]

What you're asking for is exactly what we have. We have 1 gay 1 male bisexual, 1 female bisexual, 1 straight male, 1 straight female, 1 lesbian. Somehow, gays are too many. Don't you mean that straight guys are now have as many options instead of always have more than everyone else? 

[C0uncil0rTev0s]

Sorry for misleading everyone here. I'm not asking developers to do anything.

I'm asking community members to cease excessive promotion of more gay options.

 

As stated above I'm fine with the situation when sexuality options are balanced like in DA:I. On top of that we don't need any, thank you.

 

However I'd live just fine if all romanceable characters would be pansexual like it was in DA2. In fact i liked that system better.

[BigEvil]

Short of a dwarf Inquisitor wanting a dwarf Li, I think everyone got an option or two. Seems fair to me, but I'm a straight guy who has no problems role-playing characters of different genders or preferences, so I get all the options eventually. More choices and options for everyone is a good thing.

[C0uncil0rTev0s]

Wow...

 

And here I liked ya...

 

Now I'm heartbroken . 

 

Seriously , there are too many gay ?? Seriously ??

 

Considering that in the whole games market outta there...only Bioware give us anything....while you still get something..it is too much ??? 

 

I have 2 romance and so do ya . Its fair...how is that too much ?? 

 

female hetero get : Blackwall , Iron bull and Cullen . 

Lesbien get : Sera and Josie 

Male Gay get : Dorian and Iron Bull 

Male Hetero get : Cass and Josie 

 

Sorry for misleading, I didn't really mean that :/ Feeling awkward now...

[Battlebloodmage]

Uhm... It's impossible to ask for more options because of how the game structured, adding more companions would be impossible. I'm guessing you're referring to the gay Knight in Shining Armor or some other threads related to that. It's people asking for these types of characters in the next game, not in this game. 

[daveliam]

Sorry for misleading everyone here. I'm not asking developers to do anything.

I'm asking community members to cease excessive promotion of more gay options

 

As stated above I'm fine with the situation when sexuality options are balanced like in DA:I. On top of that we don't need any, thank you.

 

However I'd live just fine if all romanceable characters would be pansexual like it was in DA2. In fact i liked that system better.

 

Why aren't you telling straight people to stop asking for more straight relationships then?  There's a thread on this first page where people are asking for more straight options for male PCs.  But there's already Cassandra, so according to your "rule of one", they are asking for too many options for themselves.  Go get them!  Tell them to stop asking for more options, too.

[C0uncil0rTev0s]

Uhm... It's impossible to ask for more options because of how the game structured, adding more companions would be impossible. I'm guessing you're referring to the gay Knight in Shining Armor or some other threads related to that. It's people asking for these types of characters in the next game, not in this game. 

Well if it's solely about next game in the series then it's okay I think... Maybe I'm just too tired and pinchy? Gotta get some drinks and relax, it's Goddamn Christmas today for all of the Saints...

[BammBamm]

to be honest, for me they could cancel this whole relationship thing hell when i play a rpg i want to experience danger and adventures, explore hidden places, if i want to **** or do relationsship things i simply go to my girlfriend.

yes you can ignore it, but the development for relationships could be used better for other things

 

thats my personal opinion and i know the relationsship are the one thing that make the dragon age series for some people special, still i dont get the fascination of it.

[hwlrmnky]

OP, you've got some unexamined personal biases to consider. Until you do, any attempt at clarification is just going to dig you in deeper.

[Grieving Natashina]

Well if it's solely about next game in the series then it's okay I think... Maybe I'm just too tired and pinchy? Gotta get some drinks and relax, it's Goddamn Christmas today for all of the Saints...

Yeah, the KISA thread is all about suggestions for the next game.  No one that's a regular in that thread even asks for them to add a romance to Inquisition, it's just for the future.  

[C0uncil0rTev0s]

Why aren't you telling straight people to stop asking for more straight relationships then?  There's a thread on this first page where people are asking for more straight options for male PCs.  But there's already Cassandra, so according to your "rule of one", they are asking for too many options for themselves.  Go get them!  Tell them to stop asking for more options, too.

Good point there, friend. Didn't mean to offend you in any way.
Maybe that's because I'm ignorant straight myself?

Anyways, I'm wrong in this part. By wanting others to be less selfish I became selfish myself.
Won't happen again.

[C0uncil0rTev0s]

OP, you've got some unexamined personal biases to consider. Until you do, any attempt at clarification is just going to dig you in deeper.

Guess that's 'examined personal biases now'

[XMissWooX]

I don't really see that.
There are an equal number of straight and gay/bisexual LIs (2 gay/2 bi and 4 straight).
Gay men and women get the same number of options as straight men (2), whilst straight women get 4.
I'd say there's just about the right amount of gay relationships in this game, though I would expect the numbers to be skewed slightly in favour of gay LIs in future games like it was for straight women in DAI.

[Grieving Natashina]

Good point there, friend. Didn't mean to offend you in any way.
Maybe that's because I'm ignorant straight myself?

Anyways, I'm wrong in this part. By wanting others to be less selfish I became selfish myself.
Won't happen again.

You know, it happens, and you're being cool about it.  I think all of us are a little selfish, regardless of orientation.   <hug>

 

It's just frustrating in the LGBT community to read this time and time again.  Many of us that have been here for awhile have heard this too many times, and I'm betting the frustration in Dave's post was a reflection of that.

 

What can really get to me and other folks is some of the double standards.  If the LGBT community starts a thread about romance, most of the time we're only talking about the future.  Okay, there is a few that have trouble letting the Cullen thing go, but I can say that it doesn't really reflect the LGBT fans on the BSN as a whole very well.  

 

For the most part (can't speak for everyone,) we wouldn't want them to add any sort of romance arc just for us as a DLC or patch.    The double standards come in when those threads are flooded with a lot of comments from men declaring their heterosexuality and telling us we should "stop asking for a dating sim" and that "straight men got shafted in this game" because they got "only" two romances.  Which is the same as they've ever had.

 

I'm not applying this to all or even most straight men on the forums.  For the most part, either they are supportive or just indifferent to romances, so long as folks are enjoying it.   

 

Meanwhile, I know that both dave and I have seen similar requests for straight romances.  Which hey, all good and I encourage anyone to offer new ideas.  What is maddening is that we've seen those same folks that throw dating sim comments at us, then post in those threads asking for more straight relationships for men, without making the same comments.  In short, for some, it's only a dating sim if the LGBT community offers suggestions.   That's without getting into the tiresome stereotype that bi/pansexuals automatically are bigger cheaters than straight folks and that's why a bisexual woman to romance in DA:I isn't "good enough."   

 

In the KISA thread alone I can't tell you how many times we had to explain that, unlike some of the other threads out there, we weren't asking for a romance DLC for this game.  I also don't want to count how many people have told us we're asking for a bunch of sex dolls.  The worst is getting those kinds of remarks from people that then start demanding that BioWare "owes straight guys more romance" and have asked them to patch (yes, patch) in a companion with a new romance.  And they generally don't get those kinds of snide remarks.

 

I'm not trying to come down on you, just trying to give you a little perspective as to how some in the LGBT community are feeling when they read threads like this.  I figure if you didn't mean any harm, I won't take any.  Christmas is stressful enough.  

[Vox Draco]

I am just glad nobody asks for a relationship with a Marbari...

 

I am thankful for the little things in life, you know...

[MadDemiurg]

I am just glad nobody asks for a relationship with a Marbari...

 

I am thankful for the little things in life, you know...

Bisexual romanceable darkspawn broodmother ftw!

[DaemionMoadrin]

I recommend editing your first post and making clear what you meant with this thread, otherwise you'll likely upset people.

[Grieving Natashina]

I recommend editing your first post and making clear what you meant with this thread, otherwise you'll likely upset people.

I agree.  I know you didn't mean any harm OP, but perhaps you could make it a little clearer?

[C0uncil0rTev0s]

You know, it happens, and you're being cool about it.  I think all of us are a little selfish, regardless of orientation.   <hug>

 

It's just frustrating in the LGBT community to read this time and time again.  Many of us that have been here for awhile have heard this too many times, and I'm betting the frustration in Dave's post was a reflection of that.

 

What can really get to me and other folks is some of the double standards.  If the LGBT community starts a thread about romance, most of the time we're only talking about the future.  Okay, there is a few that have trouble letting the Cullen thing go, but I can say that it doesn't really reflect the LGBT fans on the BSN as a whole very well.  

 

For the most part (can't speak for everyone,) we wouldn't want them to add any sort of romance arc just for us as a DLC or patch.    The double standards come in when those threads are flooded with a lot of comments from men declaring their heterosexuality and telling us we should "stop asking for a dating sim" and that "straight men got shafted in this game" because they got "only" two romances.  Which is the same as they've ever had.

 

I'm not applying this to all or even most straight men on the forums.  For the most part, either they are supportive or just indifferent to romances, so long as folks are enjoying it.   

 

Meanwhile, I know that both dave and I have seen similar requests for straight romances.  Which hey, all good and I encourage anyone to offer new ideas.  What is maddening is that we've seen those same folks that throw dating sim comments at us then post in those threads asking for more straight relationships for men without making the same comments.  In short, for some, it's only a dating sim if the LGBT community offers suggestions.   That's without getting into the tiresome stereotype that bi/pansexuals automatically are bigger cheaters than straight folks and that's why a bisexual woman to romance in DA:I isn't "good enough."   

 

In the KISA thread alone I can't tell you how many times we had to explain that, unlike some of the other threads out there, we weren't asking for a romance DLC for this game.  I also don't want to count how many people have told us we're asking for a bunch of sex dolls.  The worst is getting those kinds of remarks from people that then start demanding that BioWare "owes straight guys more romance" and have asked them to patch (yes, patch) in a companion with a new romance.  And they generally don't get those kinds of snide remarks.

 

I'm not trying to come down on you, just trying to give you a little perspective as to how some in the LGBT community are feeling when they read threads like this.  I figure if you didn't mean any harm, I won't take any.  Christmas is stressful enough.  

Ty for all the understanding. Now that I got my cup of tempered gluhwine world becomes less hostile every minute.

 

It's so easy to forget you're talking to real people out there on forums, ones who have their feelings, too. Your point is taken, ty for kind words.

 

<hug>