She's alive because someone at Bioware had a hardon for redheaded religious fanatics.
It's that easy, really.
Well that is out-universe reason but still honest. 
Because it's a mystery. She thinks it's magic or the Maker. She doesn't know herself.
The same could be said for our own characters... spirits or Andraste.
What was my point.
About our own characters
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None of it makes sense to me.
None of it makes sense to me.
How that doesn't make sense when pretty much one of main quest in dai explained that
The point of the MQ wasn't to prove divine intervention didn't happen. It was to prove nothing is that simple.
The point of the MQ wasn't to prove divine intervention didn't happen. It was to prove nothing is that simple.
Well if that wasn't point of main quest then they did that anyway so well....
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Well if that wasn't point of main quest then they did that anyway so well....
The whole game/story for the Inquisitor is a miracle in itself. They shouldn't even be alive. Talk to Varric about this.
All they proved was that Andraste didn't personally put the Mark/Anchor on the Inquisitor's hand. Everything happens for a reason, was repeated so many time throughout the story, that it's actually kind of sad that you jump on that one lone fact to disprove something.
The whole game/story for the Inquisitor is a miracle in itself. They shouldn't even be alive. Talk to Varric about this.
Not rly we know why inq is alive and it wasn't divine intervention (well to be honest it was 
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Pretty much you can call any dumb luck miracle it won't make it divine intervention.
All they proved was that Andraste didn't personally put the Mark/Anchor on the Inquisitor's hand. Everything happens for a reason, was repeated so many time throughout the story, that it's actually kind of sad that you jump on that one lone fact to disprove something.
Yes what i all that matters there is pretty much no prove of divine intervention beyond crowd screaming it was divine intervention what was proven wrong later in game if something is sad it is this.
Yes what i all that matters there is pretty much no prove of divine intervention beyond crowd screaming it was divine intervention what was proven wrong later in game if something is sad it is this.
And there is no proof their is no divine intervention in an explosion that killed literally everyone else, except for you and someone to save you, including the one who caused it. Guess we're back where we started. Again, you claiming there is none isn't really any more founded than claiming there was divine intervention.
No, there's pretty big difference between a crucifix (one of millions of generic symbols of faith in existence) and actual remains of what one believes to be a sacred figure. About as large difference as between someone destroying ashes of your parent and a pair of your parent's socks. The former can understandably evoke more anger, and even some of our own legal systems consider desecration of human remains a criminal act.Yes it is zealotry (pretty much in pure form)... it is like if you destroyed crucifix and i pull of magnum and shoot you in face
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Not rly we know why inq is alive and it wasn't divine intervention (well to be honest it was
Pretty much you can call any dumb luck miracle it won't make it divine intervention.
You're just giving a different meaning to the events. Which is all faith is about as well. Meaning. You say dumb luck. Some say providence. Either way, there will never be definitive proof.
And there is no proof their is no divine intervention in an explosion that killed literally everyone else, except for you and someone to save you, including the one who caused it. Guess we're back where we started. Again, you claiming there is none isn't really any more founded than claiming there was divine intervention.
Yes there is we see specifically why and how things went corry wanted sacrifice divine and then lucky random dude (inq) discovred that and divine in moment of distraction struck orb then inq grabed it and recived anchor what pretty much saved him.Everything about it pretty much was thrown by plot like andraste in fade or it being gift from maker now it goes into category "i found apple god did it prove me he didn't".We pretty much know reasons why it happened.
No, there's pretty big difference between a crucifix (one of millions of generic symbols of faith in existence) and actual remains of what one believes to be a sacred figure. About as large difference as between someone destroying ashes of your parent and a pair of your parent's socks. The former can understandably evoke more anger, and even some of our own legal systems consider desecration of human remains a criminal act.
Yes and no as there is difference but not in way that matters in that conversation ,if you are ready to kill somone for religion (well not only religion but in that case) pretty much good prove that you are zealot.
You're just giving a different meaning to the events. Which is all faith is about as well. Meaning. You say dumb luck. Some say providence. Either way, there will never be definitive proof.
As i said reason why breach event went that way is pretty much explained.
I'd argue not quite, as zealotry covers much wider range of activities and I feel in order to be considered one you'd need to be much more militant about far lesser things. To reuse the earlier example, if someone gets angered by the act of desecrating remains of a person they loved to the point they kill the person responsible, I don't think this proves they're cold blooded murderer in general.Yes and no as there is difference but not in way that matters in that conversation ,if you are ready to kill somone for religion (well not only religion but in that case) pretty much good prove that you are zealot.
I'd argue not quite, as zealotry covers much wider range of activities and I feel in order to be considered one you'd need to be much more militant about far lesser things. To reuse the earlier example, if someone gets angered by the act of desecrating remains of a person they loved to the point they kill the person responsible, I don't think this proves they're cold blooded murderer in general.
Mind you, I'd agree Leliana displays zeal throughout the game and so it's probably fair to consider her one. But not because of that one particular act.
Diffrence between zealot and for example normal sane person that belives in maker would be how they react to certain things and how far they are willing to go normal person would be perhaps angry but simple would react in different way even genitivi simple walked away despite he was angry leliana tried to kill you for that.I see we little went away from point that was leliana calling warden killing her terrible thing he did despite that was self-defence i can see grude and anger but calling protecting himself terrible thing not rly.
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Diffrence between zealot and for example normal sane person that belives in maker would be how they react to certain things and how far they are willing to go normal person would be perhaps angry but simple would react in different way even genitivi simple walked away despite he was angry leliana tried to kill you for that.I see we little went away from point that was leliana calling warden killing her terrible thing he did despite that was self-defence i can see grude and anger but calling protecting himself terrible thing not rly.
Because she was trying to stop you. Not merely reacting, but trying to prevent something. Huge difference. Genetivi wasn't even in the room.
But if you do do it, Genetivi later kills himself (in the DAI codex). It crushes him.
Because she was trying to stop you. Genetivi wasn't even in the room.
But if you do do it, Genetivi later kills himself (in the DAI codex).
She wasn't trying to stop you simple as you already done that in moment she decides to kill you ,she wanted to kill you for what you did pretty much this isn't how normal person reacts anger sure grabing axe and trying murder somone for that not rly.
Well he still disappears even if you won't destroy ashes.
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She wasn't trying to stop you simple as you already done that in moment she decides to kill you ,she wanted to kill you for what you did pretty much this isn't how normal person reacts anger sure grabing axe and trying murder somone for that not rly.
Well he still disappears even if you won't destroy ashes.
She didn't realize what you were doing right away.
Anyways, I've had enough of this conversation. OWN your choice. Stop being so shifty about it and blaming others. It's just disingenuous. You know it's an extreme choice. It's annoying that you try to play stupid. When I know you're NOT that stupid. lol
She didn't realize what you were doing right away.
Anyways, I've had enough of this conversation. OWN your choice. Stop being so shifty about it and blaming others. It's just disingenuous. You know it's an extreme choice. It's annoying that you try to play stupid. When I know you're NOT that stupid. lol
What still doesn't make that attempt to stop something as you can't stop something already happened it was pretty much murder attempt on religious ground and pretty much not way that sane person reacts.
Why i play dumb by calling things that what they are ,and pretty much not im one who blames other is just pointed that leliana blamed the warden for killing her and she saw that as horrible thing s/he did despite pretty much she was one who tried to kill him and it was nothing more than self-defence on warden part.
I had that convo once with her and my conclusion was that whoever took the urn, healed her but left so they didn't know who they were.
I wanted to Kill Leliana, but that would also mean killing Wynne was by far is the best healer in the game. I remember the sacred ashes scene because I remembered how Angry Leliana looked and was thinking to myself," Bioware is really good at making facial expressions".
was just about to post that. or that she took a small pinch of it.
she was still spry after that year i cant talk about. spoiler ...spoiler.
After she died, she jumped into the nearing body, thus, returning. If you want to kill her in DAO, you must first defeat Schmooples whom she shared part of her soul with before you can kill her.
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After she died, she jumped into the nearing body, thus, returning. If you want to kill her in DAO, you must first defeat Schmooples whom she shared part of her soul with before you can kill her.
Sounds like a trick from Flemeth's book.
Err... well, Flemeth didn't have schmooples... but it's something like it!
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