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[errantknight]

Say this to Kieran.

What does Kieran have to do with it? We don't yet know how that choice may cause variables and it has nothing to do with characters both living and dying.

[DDJ]

This is a good discussion, but the Grey Warden plot armor will not let them be extinguished.  Whether your Warden is alive or dead - and it does not seem to matter since in some scenarios both Leliana and Wynne can be killed at the Temple of Sacred Ashes by HoF and rise from the dead.  Wynne dies for sure in one of the novels, and Leliana is too popular to kill off.  Even if your Warden died in DAO he / she can come back in Awakening.  Bioware will never say the Warden is dead unless the player decides he/she is in Dragon Age Keep.  It would not surprise me to see Anders again risen from the dead.  They do not let go of these characters lightly, and I have my doubts that any of the main bad guys is truly dead.  

 

This schism appears interesting, and considering where the next game is likely set, we will see the Qun and the Wardens both along with the usual bad guys.  

 

By the by, if Solas does know how to prevent / end blights without the Wardens, and he appears to know something, hopefully he would tell someone.  Of course, since this is the reason for the Darkspawn etc. it will not happen.  It would end the series.

[Iakus]

the schism could very well be caused by 

 

 

Last Flight spoilers:

Spoiler

The truth behind the gryphons going extinct after the Fourth Blight, and the discovery of the untainted hatchlings

[Carmen_Willow]

Given what we've learned in this last game, I do think that somehow Thedans got it wrong with regard to the Blight and the way to end it. And yes, they have been hinting at trouble in Weisshaupt (sp?) since Origins. I hope that Bioware will not leave us hanging with a million unanswered questions about the Blight. I'd like to know if all that blood, sweat and tears, (and the one play through where I did the US) was for nothing, or worse for an ignorant mistake, and rather than save our planet, we've only made it worse.

 

I blame Solas for this. He should have told someone what he really knew about the darned Blight before he pulled his disappearing act and went whiskey-tango-foxtrot on us.

[ShadowLordXII]

If the internal strife of the Wardens can possibly change the order for the better then so be it.

 

But if the Grey Wardens destroy themselves or get destroyed from without then Thedas is screwed.

 

Even if we don't know everything about the blight or the true nature/identity of the Archdemons, the fact remains that the Wardens efforts and methods to defeat the Darkspawn and Blights have had results. Thedas has been saved five times over or else it would have been one big blight-infested continent by now.

 

As far as imprisoning the other magisters is concerned, we don't know if the Wardens are actually doing that. And keep in mind that Cory essentially forced the Wardens to keep him imprisoned because anyone who tried to approach him to study or kill him fell under Cory's control. So it's possible that if the other Darkspawn Magisters are being imprisoned, it's because the Wardens determined that it was the only way to keep them from harming Thedas until another more permanent solution could be found.

 

Plus, Grey Wardens are an iconic part of Dragon Age and Thedas so it would be sad to see them go. Kind of like how Star Wars would lose something of the jedi were opted out of that series forever.

[ModernAcademic]

Happy Anniversary, thread.

[DDJ]

While I am not a enamored of the Grey Wardens for any number of reasons, Bioware has them cloaked in plot armor.  They won't be destroyed and aside from the exchange between Hawke and Stroud, no one really gets to be hard on them.  Not withstanding this however, Thedas is screwed in any event.  When you consider that what Orlais and Ferelden wanted - an Inquisitor who is powerless or under their control they both ended up with nothing.  The Inquisitor is crippled, so there had best not be any more rifts - but I doubt that is true.  Celene stays on the throne for two years with the Inquisitor's aid, but now he / she is gone.  Ferelden is still ruled by the less than  stellar intelligence of Alastair who allowed the Mage Rebellion to flourish in his country, was grateful as hell for the Inquisition saving his butt and then wants it dismantled or is too weak kneed to do anything to check the bannorn.  In short both countries are vastly weakened.  No one - or at least I believe that no one would - is going to say when Orlais and / or Ferelden approach for aid "Why sure.  You both shafted me over and I gave an arm for you.  Of course I will help you out.  Perhaps this time I can give my life or more."  So you have an Inquisitor on the loose who will not bow to either empire, a Grey Warden actively seeking a cure for the taint and opposed to the Order's tenants in doing so and an outlawed champion in Kirkwall if you sided with the mages.  Hawke is apparently back under Kirkwall protection, but the rest remain a threat to the established order.  What Flemeth said is true, "Change is coming."  The question remains if it is good or bad.  So far, having a darker world view than others I suppose, while major evils have been defeated, only weakness remains in the wake.  I also agree with the setting in Nevarra.   There will be time in Tevinter, but given the two kingdom setting of DAI I think that would be a good area.  Frankly I would like to see Rivain - a nation of Isabellas!