I assume, that a pregnant Qunari who decides to keep the baby has no option like
"...uhm...I'd rather keep the child myself and leave the Qun...bye!"
They always must flee and are criminals in the eyes of the loyal followers, right?
Yes. As far as I remember, it is what the parents of the Qunari Inquisitor did.
I assume, that a pregnant Qunari who decides to keep the baby has no option like
"...uhm...I'd rather keep the child myself and leave the Qun...bye!"
They always must flee and are criminals in the eyes of the loyal followers, right?
Qunari don't decides to keep child is not normal. Child is taken care by Tamassran. But if it happens yes you must flee.
One last questions about this breeding stuff:
What would they do, if a newborn falls short of the Tamassran's (= the Qun's?) expectations, e.g. handicapped or simply a bit weak?
I am aware, that in any medieval society compassion was a rare virtue, but I guess under the Qun it would be totally absent, right?
Edit : also, it should be noted that for the woman, only the time of the pregnancy is problematic, most of the time, since she is supposed to give her child to a Tamassran (either at birth or once he doesn't need her milk, I don't know). Obviously, it is at this time that a woman would be the more prone to leave the Qun, since having to give up her child is quite a traumatic experience, even if you have had all your life and a whole society geared toward you accepting that.
I was thinking the baby is taken immediately at birth. The mother doesn't even know the gender, eye color, or if the baby even survived long after the birth. They would want to discourage attachment as much as possible, allowing the mother to breastfeed the baby for a while I imagine would lead to a lot more runaways. There is probably a group of tamassran who who are wet nurses that are trained to observe and guide development during the baby's early years. A woman doesn't have to have recently given birth to lactate, so they are probably mostly women who have not recently given birth to help diminish attachments to those cute, pudgy faces.
If the tamassran are as educated as I like to believe, they probably catch all sorts of development problems and mental illness real quick with a group of well trained wet nurses, and are able to address them accordingly to the best of their ability.
edit: just separating and underling the above to address the previous post. From what I recall Iron Bull saying, there are certain qunari chosen to be care takers for the handicapped.
edit2: Also, let me add. In no way do I imagine it a perfect system. I can easily see tamassran being ignorant and mishandling everything because she ultimately lacks the patience to take care of a handicapped child.
One last questions about this breeding stuff:
What would they do, if a newborn falls short of the Tamassran's (= the Qun's?) expectations, e.g. handicapped or simply a bit weak?
I am aware, that in any medieval society compassion was a rare virtue, but I guess under the Qun it would be totally absent, right?
No the tamassran also take care of old people , or people who had accidents etc...
It seems most of the time they tried to give a job or role or whatever even if there's a problem , like The Iron Bull .
He was having some sort of nervous breakdown so they gave him something else to do.
But the thing is the Qunari who can't perform their role anymore have a rough time , it's really something hard for them to accept.
I wouldn't be surprised if some simply kill themselves if they feel they can't bring anything to the Qun anymore.
Now the Qunari also tries as much as they can to not waste people.
I mean as far as I know , unless if you're a mage , if you're willing to follow the Qun and fulfill the role they give you , the Qunari are not cruel.I never heard of Qunari killing someone because suddenly they're useless.
One last questions about this breeding stuff:
What would they do, if a newborn falls short of the Tamassran's (= the Qun's?) expectations, e.g. handicapped or simply a bit weak?
I am aware, that in any medieval society compassion was a rare virtue, but I guess under the Qun it would be totally absent, right?
Mu guess is that a child who is born handicapped physically will be orientated to the priesthood, since his mind would be of use, probably. Of course, it would mean that a child who is a boy biologically would be raised as a girl to fit the requirement of the Qun, which would be quite interesting to see. As for mentally handicapped, since the Qunari use the quamek to create "zombies" of a sort, I guess they are able to find some demands the people suffering mental illness could satisfy. Obviously, since the Qun is about the mastery of the self, people who are mentally ill could suffer the same kind of prejudices than the Saarebas, if to a minor degree (at least, I think they would less be "discriminated" than the mages).
Ok, at least they take care in a caring way, for whatever pragmatic reasons.
The next thing I didn't understand:
Bull said, that Sera would be a soulless housecleaner under the Qun.
Why is that? Would she not have a chance to "convert"?
Because Sera is a staunch Andrastian and would refuse to convert. Furthermore, she like chaos, in fact she spreads it. In a culture where Order is everything, Sera would be anathema, and thus she would get the qamek treatment, which would make her a brainless worker.
Because Sera is a staunch Andrastian and would refuse to convert. Furthermore, she like chaos, in fact she spreads it. In a culture where Order is everything, Sera would be anathema, and thus she would get the qamek treatment, which would make her a brainless worker.
What exactly is the "Qamek Treatment"? Something like the "tranquilizing" of mages or more like a lobotomy?
And - btw - why do you guys know all this stuff? In my games I try to read everything and listen to the conversations. Did I really miss that much?
What exactly is the "Qamek Treatment"? Something like the "tranquilizing" of mages or more like a lobotomy?
More like a lobotomy, it seems.
What exactly is the "Qamek Treatment"? Something like the "tranquilizing" of mages or more like a lobotomy?
And - btw - why do you guys know all this stuff? In my games I try to read everything and listen to the conversations. Did I really miss that much?
Reading the codex, listening to every single Qunari, going through dragon age wiki cause there are books and comics I haven't read, and I like to think those expensive college sociology classes I took help me think outside the box of my own culture's structure.
Here's the wiki page on Qamek where you'll see it was mostly in the comics: Link
Saar-Qamek shows up in DA2 as a green gas which makes people go crazy and die.
If you choose to have Iron Bull go Tal-Vashoth, he's jumped by assassins who have treated their blades with qamek poison, and Bull casually mentions that if he hadn't been dosing himself with the antidote, he'd be going crazy and dying right then.
After all these insights I consider the Qun as a system which tends towards Utilitarianism.
Would you agree?
Given your history of posting vitriolic things about the Qun that's an impossble challenge.
Screw the Qun and its brainwashing.
I'm 100% anti-Reaper (as in "I don't want them being Reapers anymore") and still pick Synthesis and Control on alts and headcanon a sequel where we ride around in a Reaper, so yeah, it is NOT an impossible challenge to get me to view the Qun more positively. Just a challenge.
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