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[von uber]

And it's a wonder why I have a hard time taking these sorts of threads seriously.

 

What did these "SJW"'s tell BioWare anyway? I feel like people are referring to some sort of shadowy, nebulous internet community that makes veiled threats or whispers in writers and developers' ears to influence their character design. Where the frak are these people and why do we never see them make these suggestions before the game is released? 

 

They are secretly planning on stealing all the games from the poor men children. It's like the fluoride in the water, stealing our essences.

[Grieving Natashina]

This is as of March.  It does not include digital sales:

 

http://www.vgchartz....ge: inquisition

 

3.4 million copies sold.  Does sales make for a better game?  According to that troll logic, it does.  The last FIFA game has sold 30 million copies.  The latest Madden game sold 10 million copies.  Yet, clearly an RPG, a niche market, has to achieve the numbers of TW3 or Skyrim just to be good.  Well, at least according to some posters.  

 

I think some posters have a bloated sense of ego and over-importance.  They have to flail for excuses to have their "hated" game fail.  I don't know why they don't just go to another forum.  

 

I don't care if TW3 did better.   EA made over $1 billion dollars last year.  They can afford to have Inquisition sell "poorly."  Also, this was one of the best selling RPGs of all time for BioWare.  

 

BioWare isn't going to take pity on a few very loud, very vocal self-proclaiming straight men because they personally find Cass and Josie unappealing.  There is mods for both characters on nexus.  Go use them.  

 

 Oh and here's one more thing.  David Gaider may have left the DA project, but I'm betting he's not just speaking for himself here.

 

http://forum.bioware.../#entry15898308

Let us all hang our heads in melancholic commiseration for those who must endure the presence of insufficiently feminine women. They are the unsung heroes among us.

 

 

[Quarian Master Race]

Man, those Gaider quotes just made all the brainbleach I will need from reading the posts by petulant man children in this thread totally worth it.

[Vazgen]

I wonder, do these threads appear before each Bioware game release?

[Seishoujyo]

Romance and sex is a big deal in these games.  People are threatening to not buy the game over them, or sales will drop if the chicks are not hot enough to romance. Romance threads are always huge. I think BioWare should just make a dating sim. Put all their resources on the love interests, good-looking love interests.  Stay on the ship smothered in sex, the ship should have 24/7 ambient bland "bow chicka wow wow" music, and just drop on some planet and shoot bad guys, then get rewarded with sex on world from the hot chicks you saved and again back on the ship by numerous hot chick love interests. Explore the red light district of some alien world and have sex with humanoid alien chicks that are hotter than actual human chicks. Upgrade the notch on your dick.The sales will be astronomical. 

 

I agree ME4 should be like the party part of the Citadel DLC, 30 hours of this, and I will be happy, drinking, doing sex and listening to the music during 30 hours

 

The ME3 ending debacle doesn't even compare; it's in a totally different league. The threads that have people complaining about Cassandra and Josephine are small potatoes compared to the OMFG-schlockpocalypse that was the fandom's reaction to the endings, not to mention the numerous articles on it throughout the internet. It was a fairly big event in gaming. This is nothing. 

 

You know what ? In fact it was a minority, a very vocal minority who blow things out of proportions. And everyone was in position to say "shut up it's just a matter of opinions if you don't like the endings, I like them", just like some people are doing this right now with Cassandra/Josephine and the hetero romances ^^

 

But some people can't accept your opinion and will fight you just because you re not happy with the chara design, yet they were the first to attack Bioware for the endings or whatever other bullshit

[Seishoujyo]

BioWare isn't going to take pity on a few very loud, very vocal self-proclaiming straight men because they personally find Cass and Josie unappealing.  There is mods for both characters on nexus.

 

Yet they did it for some few very vocal trans, gay, lesb or bi.

 

No equality here, really, Bioware you are disgusting, you are spitting and disrespecting straight males, now I m lauching a new controversy because it's so easy with you Bioware

 

On a more serious note, when The Witcher 3 will destroy DAI in sales I m sure Bioware will start thinking about all of this because your main customers are straight males not the LBGT community

[Grieving Natashina]

BioWare fans might think that, but BioWare themselves?  They told folks to deal with LGBT+ characters and romances during the DA2 days, and that game didn't sell nearly as well as DA:I has so far.  They've stated time and time again that there is zero evidence so far that LGBT content is affecting their sales for good or for ill.

 

Oh and I've talked to straight men that have played gay male characters, and straight women that play lesbians, and everything in-between.  It isn't just the LGBT+ community that enjoys that content.

 

I think some DA fans are focused way too hard on the numbers.  BioWare made their investment back, and then some.  EA is rolling in cash and see BioWare as a sound investment.  The company outselling Origins, which had the biggest game sales before this, has secured BioWare's future for quite some time.

 

As far as the topic goes, again, the ME team is going to create a mix of romantic characters with different appearances.  Some men might find them "ugly," some will find them attractive.  Plenty of men won't give a crap about the looks and focus on the personality.  All of us can skip the romance content if it isn't to our taste.  It's optional content and if someone can't even look at a woman that they don't find attractive in a game, then they've got much bigger issues going on.

[von uber]

On a more serious note, when The Witcher 3 will destroy DAI in sales I m sure Bioware will start thinking about all of this because your main customers are straight males not the LBGT community

 

Yes, because it is not the quests, nor the world design, nor the story, nor the characters, nor the thematic elements at play... it's the fact that Geralt is straight.

 

**** me, I really wish age restrictions on games were enforced more rigorously.

[Grieving Natashina]

 

**** me, I really wish age restrictions on games were enforced more rigorously.

<hugs>  Sad fact is that most people that seem immature online are likely in their 20s-30s.  Unfortunately.

[von uber]

<hugs>  Sad fact is that most people that seem immature online are likely in their 20s-30s.  Unfortunately.

 

Yeah I know. Anonymity is a terrible thing sometimes.

[KaiserShep]

BioWare fans might think that, but BioWare themselves?  They told folks to deal with LGBT+ characters and romances during the DA2 days, and that game didn't sell nearly as well as DA:I has so far.  They've stated time and time again that there is zero evidence so far that LGBT content is affecting their sales for good or for ill.

 

Oh and I've talked to straight men that have played gay male characters, and straight women that play lesbians, and everything in-between.  It isn't just the LGBT+ community that enjoys that content.

 

I think some DA fans are focused way too hard on the numbers.  BioWare made their investment back, and then some.  EA is rolling in cash and see BioWare as a sound investment.  The company outselling Origins, which had the biggest game sales before this, has secured BioWare's future for quite some time.

 

As far as the topic goes, again, the ME team is going to create a mix of romantic characters with different appearances.  Some men might find them "ugly," some will find them attractive.  Plenty of men won't give a crap about the looks and focus on the personality.  All of us can skip the romance content if it isn't to our taste.  It's not optional content and if someone can't even look at a woman that they don't find attractive in a game, then they've got much bigger issues going on.

 

Maybe some people just found Dorian's romance to be so good that it's making them question their beliefs to the point of madness. 

[von uber]

Maybe some people just found Dorian's romance to be so good that it's making them question their beliefs to the point of madness. 

 

I was gutted when I found out he was gay and couldn't romance him with Femquis.

[Seishoujyo]

Straight guys get a hell of a lot more than lgbt folks, especially in the ME series where they get more than lgbt and women.

 

You mad they include us at all?

 

Seriously, do you want BioWare to exclude lgbt and women fans altogether from their games?

 

What ???? Certainly not in DAI.

 

In ME maybe, but not in DA, just because of Gaider and because the DA team is full of this feminist and Sarkisian crap (which is nonsense), Gaider is even a friend of her.

 

As for the LBGT community I don't mind, really, lol of course you have the right to exist and to be represented we are not nazis lol, but imo they shouldn't have that much of content because they are a minority.

 

But what the next step ? In Resident Evil 7 Chris will have a bi or gay teamate because you guys need to be everywhere ? Or FF15 will be.... oh wait they are all gay in FF15, nevermind, I just mean you guys can't be in every game, you have to understand that.

 

When you want to include that kind of stuff it has to be at least logical, not just here for the sake to be here or for the marketing, and I have this feeling with DAI. Sorry.

[Seishoujyo]

Yes, because it is not the quests, nor the world design, nor the story, nor the characters, nor the thematic elements at play... it's the fact that Geralt is straight.

 

**** me, I really wish age restrictions on games were enforced more rigorously.

 

So yeah, in short TW3 is just a better game in every aspect compared to DAI, that's just worse for Bioware.

 

As for your wish you too would probably be restricted lol. Don't play that cocky and smart guy please

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Well, if people who are in the minority should be in less games, then there should be less white and less male characters in games too. After all, there are more women on the planet than men and more people of african, asian, latino, and/or middle eastern descent than people of caucasian descent. That can also apply to "aesthetically pleasing" people since they are a minority compared to the people who are "average". 

[Seishoujyo]

Well, if people who are in the minority should be in less games, then there should be less white and less male characters in games too. After all, there are more women on the planet than men and more people of african, asian, latino, and/or middle eastern descent than people of caucasian descent. 

 

Guess what ? Where are the games selling the most ? Europe, North America and Japan. What is the dominant race in those countries/continents ? White people. Who plays videogames the most ? Males. Do the math.

[von uber]

As for your wish you too would probably be restricted lol. Don't play that cocky and smart guy please

 

I'm 35; I am too old and have been playing games for too long to put up with these ridiculous arguments. It's about time that the industry and people who play the games just bloody well grew up and took a collective look at themselves.

[PCThug]

As for the LBGT community I don't mind, really, lol of course you have the right to exist and to be represented we are not nazis lol, but imo they shouldn't have that much of content because they are a minority.

How generous of you.

(the 'lol' after the assurance that you aren't a nazi really sells the sincerity).

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Guess what ? Where are the games selling the most ? Europe, North America and Japan. What is the dominant race in those countries/continents ? White people. Who plays videogames the most ? Males. Do the math.

I know. The whole point of the post was that worldwide statistics do not match gamer statistics, therefore the characters in the games should be what the creators decide rather than following statistics. 

 

More on point, most players of video games are also not universally "attractive" people, so by your logic the people who are are the minority thus shouldn't be in as many games, therefore you are going against your previous desire of wanting everyone in games to be "attractive". 

 

See how going by statistics can be an issue? 

[Seishoujyo]

I'm 35; I am too old and have been playing games for too long to put up with these ridiculous arguments. It's about time that the industry and people who play the games just bloody well grew up and took a collective look at themselves.

 

Yet you are here and keep posting mocking people who disagree with you. So much for being 35.

 

I think it's sad seeing some replies here questioning the maturity or even the sexual life of some people when we just ask for a better chara design even if it's our opinion, just like some people asked for a better ending before which was a matter of opinion too because the ending wasn't that bad for a lot of people. Would I call you an idiot or immature just because you re declaring a war to Bioware for some endings ? No, never. Opinions are opinions and you have to respect them.

[Seishoujyo]

How generous of you.

(the 'lol' after the assurance that you aren't a nazi really sells the sincerity).

 

Ok you got me here, actually I am a nazi, the grandson of Adolf Hitler, how did you know ? But nazis play videogames too

[von uber]

Yet you are here and keep posting mocking people who disagree with you. So much for being 35.

 

No I mock those who express views like:

 

 

In ME maybe, but not in DA, just because of Gaider and because the DA team is full of this feminist and Sarkisian crap (which is nonsense), Gaider is even a friend of her.

 

As for the LBGT community I don't mind, really, lol of course you have the right to exist and to be represented we are not nazis lol, but imo they shouldn't have that much of content because they are a minority.

 

 

Seriously. Re-read that. You can't see the problem with what you wrote?