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[InfoGuy101]

I've played the game with one character for over a 100 hours and all I wanted was a hood schematic. It didn't have to be tier 3 or even tier 2 I would settled for a tier 1 schematic but no drops for my entire playthrough. 

 

I feel at least all tier 1 schematics should be available to buy somewhere in the game or easily found. 

 

A RNG loot system should not feature in a single player experience in my view or not to such a large degree as in DA: I as it make's it frustrating for players to customize there characters how they want them to look which is a big draw to some who play these games.

[Wanya77]

I really hate this RNG loot system.

[Sidney]

I don't see why people are blaming the RNG.

 

Unless you are on play through 2 most loot could be random in most games because you don't know what is in the chest. 95+% of all the items dropped in BG or ME or DAO were useless anyways - there is a reason we all know the terms vendor trash. The best stuff is in fact fixed, example dragon drops which, at least on two play throughs, appear to be the same.

 

The problem isn't that the loot you get isn't good it is that all the loot is worthless because of crafting. If you ripped that out of the game then the drops would be fine but what everyone wants are tier 3 schematics for bows, staves, swords, helmets and so forth and you don't get a lot of those. The problem is that, like in many other Bioware games, a lot of the best stuff isn't found under the belly of a dragon but in a merchants stall where you buy it with the proceeds from all that RNG vendor trash you sold.

[Rynas]

The problem is that, like in many other Bioware games, a lot of the best stuff isn't found under the belly of a dragon but in a merchants stall where you buy it with the proceeds from all that RNG vendor trash you sold.

 

Not true.  This is exactly what people are complaining about.  Most of the best stuff is NOT fixed, it's ONLY available as random drops.

[Sidney]

There are tier 3 ra

Not true.  This is exactly what people are complaining about.  Most of the best stuff is NOT fixed, it's ONLY available as random drops.

Only partially true. A lot of tier 3 stuff is random. There are however fixed tier 3 schematics for all weapon categories and armor types that are in fixed locations - most of them are with dragons, in the Hissing Waste tombs or at the Suledin Keep or Canyon merchants. Usuallly multiples schematics for all those categories.

The problem is that there are 2 axe and 2 mace schematics in fixed spots, but no swords for one handers. Same with two handers there are two axes and one sword fixed but no mauls so if you are concerned with a particular type of weapon you may be out of luck but you can find the schematics you need to craft all types of high end material in reliable spots.

[Rynas]

The sword issue is a big problem, but aside from that, most of the best schematics are RNG-only.  That's what you (and I) were talking about.

[CENIC]

So... only having access to the T3 "Armor" and Superior "Armor" variant schematics through the Hissing Wastes vendor is acceptable to you?
When there are two other variants, one of which uses more cloth and is therefore more customizable? OK then.

[Rynas]

And even those are random (the Superior ones).  AFTER you've taken the perk.  So @#!%ing frustrating.

[Sidney]

So... only having access to the T3 "Armor" and Superior "Armor" variant schematics through the Hissing Wastes vendor is acceptable to you?
When there are two other variants, one of which uses more cloth and is therefore more customizable? OK then.

Yeeees? You want a fixed drop so no matter what one of these will be in a single place. It isn't like you can find the Juggernaut armor in more than one place or you can't buy the Rose's Thorn from more than one place.

I don't need my loot system to be Santa Claus and give me everything . You can access tier 3 schematics in fixed spots for all the armor and weapon types. The game isn't limiting you from getting tier 3 materials wi the RNG, it might limit your selection of tier 3 stuff but really is having a basket of possible loot from which you will always have access to some really such a problem?

[Terodil]

I think that if you are a completionist and really look into every nook and cranny, and complete every quest, yes, at the end you should be the proud owner of everything the game has to offer.

 

If you prefer to race through it's fair that you don't have everything.

 

Simple?

[Zered]

I think that if you are a completionist and really look into every nook and cranny, and complete every quest, yes, at the end you should be the proud owner of everything the game has to offer.

 

If you prefer to race through it's fair that you don't have everything.

 

Simple?

IMO that would be the perfect solution. Now even when you scout every rock and look under every chest you still have a big chance of getting nothing.

[CENIC]

Yeeees? You want a fixed drop so no matter what one of these will be in a single place. It isn't like you can find the Juggernaut armor in more than one place or you can't buy the Rose's Thorn from more than one place.

I don't need my loot system to be Santa Claus and give me everything . You can access tier 3 schematics in fixed spots for all the armor and weapon types. The game isn't limiting you from getting tier 3 materials wi the RNG, it might limit your selection of tier 3 stuff but really is having a basket of possible loot from which you will always have access to some really such a problem?

The previous games can't really compare, though. The best equipment was static. The RNG prefab equipment was OK because you were only using it to carry you through until you found the unique armor sets. And you could obtain every unique armor set in a single playthrough by looting everything - no farming required.

I don't mind if prefab equipment is randomized in DAI. But if I want to acquire all the schematics and take advantage of the crafting system, I should be able to do that without gaming the system by farming.

[Vita Brevis]

Currently I am using cheatengine to put schematics into vendors, it's way less frustrating then spending hours farming chests like in some mmo.

Is there a FAQ? I'm new to cheat engine but I would kill for getting all the stuff I want at this point. 

[Felya87]

I don't mind if prefab equipment is randomized in DAI. But if I want to acquire all the schematics and take advantage of the crafting system, I should be able to do that without gaming the system by farming.

 

Amen.

Exactly that.

[Sartoz]

Anyone really hardup on increasing their weapons' DPS, the CE can do wonders for you.

 

Personally, I found some very good gear (playing on hard). However, I found that crafting your own is better than what you normally find. The extra %ages on blue/purple items look nice when displaying the stats but a 5% flanking attack with 3% bonus damage fails to come near an increase of 20-40 DPS points from crafting your own.

 

Tier 2 and 3 scematics need tier 2-3 materials anyway. Getting a high level scematic on a low level quizzie. where the necessary crafting materials are unavailable to you, is pretty much like having t.i.t.s on a bull.. useless. 

 

There is a cave near the bandits' area in the Hinterlands  where you can find some good stuff.

[Aldaroshka]

Sorry if my English is bad - not native speaker.

 

Is there a way we can really get Bioware's attention to this matter? It's one thing to simply discuss the problem, but addressing people who have power to change something is completely different.

 

I think the main problem is this: the game seriously lacks good side quests. If there were more unique locations with less random enemy encounters and scripted events, it would be only logical to give some good schematics/armor as reward for completing the quests. There would be no need to place good stuff with ridiculous drop chance into random chests all over the world. But that's just a general complaint and this is not something that can be changed.

Frankly, I can't recall if there are quests that have schematics as reward. Ah, wait, there's "Wyrm Hole" in Crestwood - you get Warden Scout armor for that one. And that's it.

Yes, it's nice and interesting to find something cool while exploring, but it never happens like that in game! Mostly it's like this: I waste 15 minutes to climb to a spot where I see a chest and I get some random crappy gray loot. Yay.

Not saying that everything should be fixed drop, but some things definetely should. Game should be fun, not frustrating. And since I hardly ever get good stuff without abusing reload button, it already counts as frustrating.

 

You can literally play hours before you even start suspecting that there are more schematics than you have. It's okay when you play for the first time, but at second, third, etc. playthroughs it surely is not okay. And this can't be solved by saying "Hey, don't play that game anymore". Because there are more things to do there! I played as elf, now I want to be a qunari or a human. I want to try different romance options and explore everything that can be explored. And somehow I don't want all my characters to wear the same crap again and again while I do that. Also most of schematics are pretty much the same model with a few alterations. So I want more schematics and unique stuff. I want variety.

But to get that you need to farm. Farm in my Dragon Age. This is an outrage. "Farming" and "variety" should never be in one sentence.

 

I don't know what can be done - provided we actually get Bioware to do something at all. I would suggest increasing drop chance or adding a perk.

Ffs, anything would be better than current system.

 

Is there a FAQ? I'm new to cheat engine but I would kill for getting all the stuff I want at this point. 

So would I.

[Master Shiori]

I don't mind if prefab equipment is randomized in DAI. But if I want to acquire all the schematics and take advantage of the crafting system, I should be able to do that without gaming the system by farming.

This.

[BoltActionBrain]

How about this, BRING BACK NEW GAME PLUS! Let us get better (ALL MASTERWORK) RNG drops on a second playthrough/or at least after lvl 20-25 like DA:O. I'm not totally against farming, but it is really damn tedious when:

 

1. it's not an MMO or even small party coop experience.

2. The publisher brags about the hundreds/thousands/etc weapons and armors in the game and the only ones that ever drop regularly suck at higher levels.

 

The RNG already isn't random. Teir 3 chests regularly drop teir 3 loot. So adjust the RNG to compensate for character LVL. Duh...

Also, Respawn dragons. All the NG+ and Tier 4/boss respawns can be tied into using the mark to restart the inquisitor & friends to the beginning of the game. HOLY $&%#, BATMAN! Did that not just make absolute and game-canonical sense!?

[Lieutenant Kurin]

Signed because this is necessary.

[Fade-Touched-in-the-head]

Wow. I had no idea the Dalish Warrior Armor was so coveted. I actually found the schematic in my most recent playthrough but didn't bother crafting it when I saw that it was only tier 2. Now I'm going to have to give it a look.

[Zered]

Guys don't bother about it. They haven't changed it so far so there is no reason to think they will change it in the future. The game has more pressing issues(at least on the PC).

[Reachfan2]

I put this on the official Patch discussion thread and I want to see what you guys think of this: I want to see a patch that restocks the inventory of a merchant every six hours from the time a player visits a specific merchant (especially the Hissing Wastes Merchant). 

 

If you ask me, this could actually work. The company won't need to fix anything, just add this little feature in, and we get a restock every six hours. This would definitely help those of us who have the Short List perk and are trying to get an item (or a schematic in my case,) that they can't get from a specific merchant because of this issue with the loot system.