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Sera & Solas Similarities (Who is Sera really?)


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(sorry for the wall of text...no short way to say all of this)

 

As I don’t post a lot in this section I went through some of the Sera and Solas threads but didn’t really find anything addressing this topic so if it has been covered please ignore.

 

One thing that has really struck me about Sera and Solas is how similar they are and considering how significant Solas is to the plot of DAI and think we all may have missed something about Sera. I don’t think she is who she claims to be. But first let’s look how similar the two are.

 

* First, generally, they look really different than most Elves that we know of in Thedas.

 

* The both are VERY cagey when it comes to talking about their past and where they originally came from.

 

* They both have a disdain for the Dalish and modern Elves in general.

 

* They both claim no one taught them their fighting skills (Sera – Bow / Solas – Magic) Matter a fact they both are also invasive talking about this topic as well.

 

* They both seem to be somewhat of an enigma.

 

Now in the game I think there are big clues that Solas knows more about Sera than he lets on.

 

First at one point Solas asks Sera if she knows any magic. Why would he do this? (Especially knowing now who he really is.) Is Sera really a secret Mage? Is that why she is so defensive about magic? Keep in mind in the game when you talk to one of Iron Bull’s crew you discover there is an Elf Mage who used a bow as both a bow and a staff? I think this is more hinting at who Sera really is.

 

Also, when Solas attempts to speak to her in Elvan he refers to her as one of his people. This is HIGHLY significant as if you play as an Elf as the Inquisitor, Solas points out that even though you are an Elf you are NOT one of his people. Do you see the issue? Why would he refer to Sera as one and not the apparent saviour of the world?  

 

In the game the more I talked to Sera I kept thinking of the Shakespearean quote from Hamlet "The lady doth protest too much, methinks".  In my opinion Sera is hiding something. Something big. 

 

Sera often talks about “people” and most have assumed she means everyday people. But remember what Flemth(Mythal) refers to the Dalish as in DA2? “The People”.  I do not think this is a coincidence.  

 

Now give all of the above is it possible that Sera is in fact Andruil in disguise?

 

This below quote is describing Andruil

 

Andruil is the elven Goddess of the Hunt, creator of the Vir Tanadahl or Way of Three Trees. First, the Vir Assan, or Way of the Arrow: fly straight and do not waver. Second, the Vir Bor'assan, or Way of the Bow: bend but never break. Third, the Vir Adahlen, or Way of the Forest: together we are stronger than the one.

 

Andruil is the master of the bow and arrow. Sera is a master of bow and arrow and claims to have no training.

 

Andruil was one of the original Elven gods and therefore someone Solas would consider “his people”.

 

Andruil, being one of the old gods would have had magic, something that Sera claims to not have but seemingly hinted at by Solas and her almost “irrational” dislike of it. Is she protesting too much? Is she using a bow as her staff as we now know it can be done?

 

We also know (according to Solas in DAI) that Anduil already had somewhat of a disrespect for her own people as she hunted them down for sport.

 

Now the arguments against this is going to be her belief in Andraste.  But one does not exclude this other. In fact, it might bolster it.

 

Let’s assume for a moment that Sera is in fact Andruil. We all know that the Elven gods were not “all powerful” nor were they the creator. In fact after DAI it is suggested they were just really, really powerful Mages or demi-gods mistaken for “gods”. 

 

We also now know that the fall of the old Elves was not due to humans but their own infighting hinted at because they gods would no longer answer them due to The Dread Wolf locking them away.

 

We know that at least Mythal was alive and well for many, many years previous to DAI. We also know that The Dread Wolf (Fen'Harel/Solas) recently awoke as was in a weakened state.

 

Is it possible that Andruil recently awoke as well? It is possible when she awoke and saw the havoc and destruction of both magic and the disappearance of the Eleven gods caused Thedas she felt horribly guilty and ashamed and took on a different persona? Is it possible she discovered the truth about the fall of the ancient due to infighting and she decided to reject everything about her previous life as Anduil up to and including worshiping the human creator/god?

 

If this is true and she inherently knew the conclave was destroyed by Eleven magic, did she join the Inquisition with ulterior motives? Did she think that Elven magic once again was threatening the fabric of the world and she wanted to stop it? Did she take the guise of Sera as to keep her true indemnity a secret?

 

What do you think?


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Sera seems to genuinely not know any form of the elven language, so there's that....

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Dont feel offended..but....considering how many haters there are already...I rather this isnt true at all . 

 

And if she was...she has amnesia.... :P

 

Sera is Sera  :wub:


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Another tidbit: Solas at one point says he pities Sera, then corrects himself to say that perhaps he envies her for her 'purity of purpose'. She's all about the hunt. Not about reform or oranisations or anything like that.


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Sera isn't a mandatory companion and can be kicked at anytime so I doubt the writers would be going in this direction (compare to Solas who is mandatory and important to the plot).

Plus, I think there are enough surprise elven gods.

The theory isn't bad, though. I've seen it brought up before.
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Dont feel offended..but....considering how many haters there are already...I rather this isnt true at all . 

 

And if she was...she has amnesia.... :P

 

Sera is Sera  :wub:

 

There is no reason to believe that Sera isn't Sera now. As Solas is Solas. If Sera was at one point Andruil (as Solas was The Dread Wolf & Flemeth was Mythal) does not mean that she isn't the funny, cute persona she is now. It just means there is a lot more to her than meets the eye.



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First at one point Solas asks Sera if she knows any magic. Why would he do this? (Especially knowing now who he really is.) Is Sera really a secret Mage? Is that why she is so defensive about magic? Keep in mind in the game when you talk to one of Iron Bull’s crew you discover there is an Elf Mage who used a bow as both a bow and a staff? I think this is more hinting at who Sera really is.
 
Also, when Solas attempts to speak to her in Elvan he refers to her as one of his people. This is HIGHLY significant as if you play as an Elf as the Inquisitor, Solas points out that even though you are an Elf you are NOT one of his people. Do you see the issue? Why would he refer to Sera as one and not the apparent saviour of the world?


The convo about magic is when Solas says Sera put lizards in his bed or something, right? I believe he was just teasing, getting back at her for the prank, because he knows she's afraid of magic and hates being associated with elves.

 

IMO what little we know about Sera's backstory was enough to explain her views, but still this is an interesting theory.


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Another tidbit: Solas at one point says he pities Sera, then corrects himself to say that perhaps he envies her for her 'purity of purpose'. She's all about the hunt. Not about reform or oranisations or anything like that.

Yes I meant to add that to my OP as well. Thanks for pointing that out.



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The convo about magic is when Solas says Sera put lizards in his bed or something, right? I believe he was just teasing, getting back at her for the prank, because he knows she's afraid of magic and hates being associated with elves.

 

IMO what little we know about Sera's backstory was enough to explain her views, but still this is an interesting theory.

 

 

Actually at one point Solas asks her if she is a mage and then offers to tutor her. Her reaction is well...very Sera lol


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There is no reason to believe that Sera isn't Sera now. As Solas is Solas. If Sera was at one point Andruil (as Solas was The Dread Wolf & Flemeth was Mythal) does not mean that she isn't the funny, cute persona she is now. It just means there is a lot more to her than meets the eye.

Yeah she is my wifey..not some dead or presumed dead Old boring  god... :lol: 

 

And if she was this deity ya speak of...shouldnt she be outta there hunting elves or something...instead of caring for the little peoples ? I mean..ya did mention Mythal..who had a purpose . The dread wolf who just wake up and did something...So why wouldnt she ? is she the (if its true) the only deity that is lazy ?? 

 

Muh I dont want her to be a bad goddess..or have some hidden agenda as interesting as it will be . I dont think every companions should have a second skin undernearth....



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Actually at one point Solas asks her if she is a mage and then offers to tutor her. Her reaction is well...very Sera lol

He actually say that she may have potentiel ....I saw it as teasing , because afterward he say she could dream and walk in the fade . Wich he probably know would freak her out even more...



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Before you even finished, I knew this was going to be about Andruil. Weird..



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Sera seems to genuinely not know any form of the elven language, so there's that....

 

Actually she could be pretending. But if you follow what Solas says the second time (In Eleven) and her reaction... there is a hint that she knows what he is saying.


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In the spirit of the character,

"Sera Greatly Disapproves"
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I doubt it, could be possible that she is a hedge mage though.  



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Sera isn't a mandatory companion and can be kicked at anytime so I doubt the writers would be going in this direction (compare to Solas who is mandatory and important to the plot).

Plus, I think there are enough surprise elven gods.

The theory isn't bad, though. I've seen it brought up before.

 

That she's not mandatory doesn't really mean she won't be important later. You could finish DA:O without even meeting Leliana after all.


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Yeah she is my wifey..not some dead or presumed dead Old boring  god... :lol:

 

And if she was this deity ya speak of...shouldnt she be outta there hunting elves or something...instead of caring for the little peoples ? I mean..ya did mention Mythal..who had a purpose . The dread wolf who just wake up and did something...So why wouldnt she ? is she the (if its true) the only deity that is lazy ?? 

 

Muh I dont want her to be a bad goddess..or have some hidden agenda as interesting as it will be . I dont think every companions should have a second skin undernearth....

 

You just made a BIG assumption.  By hunting Elves she might  have been doing something good. Like hunting bad Elves who wanted to kill people or were hung up on power. Maybe it was her attempt to stop what eventually happened to the ancient Elves? Maybe she gave up on the Elves and saw more honour in humans?



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That she's not mandatory doesn't really mean she won't be important later. You could finish DA:O without even meeting Leliana after all.

You could also not recruit Sten, Wynne, Ogrhen, Zevran, Shale, etc. The only mandatory companions were Alistair and Morrigan (dog too for humans), and you could kick the latter out at any time.



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In the spirit of the character,

"Sera Greatly Disapproves"

 

Sera would lol



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Yes, this theory has been brought up before and we've talked about it (and Solas and Sera's similiarities) in the Sera thread, although I certainly don't blame you for not seeing it in the thousands of pages of silly chat there. :lol:

 

Personally, I don't like it, even though it's fun. I think it diminishes Sera's character. 

 

But a few points: 

 

Solas offering to tutor her in magic is obviously him trolling her. 

He calls her one of The People, right, not his people? That's how he calls the elves in general. I also think...while, I get why you're drawing such significance from it, it's important to look at the context of the scenes where Solas says you're not his people to try to highlight your differences (he's not Dalish or from the same culture as you) vs him trying to connect with Sera. 

Sera's hatred of magic (and sensitivity to it), could hint at some kind of childhood trauma/exposure to harmful magic. We also know she was an orphan in Denerim, possibly around the time of the "haunted orphanage" from Origins. 

She wasn't trained by anyone in particular because she's never had a mentor, or a place, or whatever. She had to learn to do it herself, because if she'd had a mentor like that, she wouldn't be as squirrelly and insecure as she is now.

 

edit to add more: I do think it's intentional that they have a lot of similiarites, but I don't think it's because she's actually an ancient elf. I think it's because there's a sadness there: both are outcasts, but their particular brand of outcast makes it unable for them to connect. Same with Sera and Viv: they have a lot in common, but the class difference there keeps them from really seeing it. 


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That she's not mandatory doesn't really mean she won't be important later. You could finish DA:O without even meeting Leliana after all.


Leliana is a bit of an oddball I guess. It just seems odd to slap something as big as godhood on a character that people might not have kept around in their game.

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Not every elf companion in DA have to be a god, just look at Zevran thing of the children!!!! 

 

Dont get me wrong I adore Sera as Sera but things started clicking in my head how similar Solas and Sera were and the fact that Solas referred to Sera as "one of his people" but goes out of the way to state both the Dalish and the Elven Inquisitor is not... to me anyway that is the most significant evidence.


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Yes, this theory has been brought up before and we've talked about it (and Solas and Sera's similiarities) in the Sera thread, although I certainly don't blame you for not seeing it in the thousands of pages of silly chat there. :lol:

 

Personally, I don't like it, even though it's fun. I think it diminishes Sera's character. 

 

But a few points: 

 

Solas offering to tutor her in magic is obviously him trolling her. 

He calls her one of The People, right, not his people? That's how he calls the elves in general.

Sera's hatred of magic (and sensitivity to it), could hint at some kind of childhood trauma/exposure to harmful magic. We also know she was an orphan in Denerim, possibly around the time of the "haunted orphanage" from Origins. 

She wasn't trained by anyone in particular because she's never had a mentor, or a place, or whatever. She had to learn to do it herself, because if she'd had a mentor like that, she wouldn't be as squirrelly and insecure as she is now.

 

edit to add more: I do think it's intentional that they have a lot of similiarites, but I don't think it's because she's actually an ancient elf. I think it's because there's a sadness there: both are outcasts, but their particular brand of outcast makes it unable for them to connect. Same with Sera and Viv: they have a lot in common, but the class difference there keeps them from really seeing it. 

 

 

I can see this but its all assumptions and if Sera is ultimately lying its all a cover story anyway .



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Dont get me wrong I adore Sera as Sera but things started clicking in my head how similar Solas and Sera were and the fact that Solas referred to Sera as "one of his people" but goes out of the way to state both the Dalish and the Elven Inquisitor is not... to me anyway that is the most significant evidence.

Maybe he doesnt..cose he is afraid ? after all..ya elf quizzie is marked by something He did.....

 

The whole time he acted like a rat that did something.....he is nice then shy away..then get closer then shy away..... :lol: