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[Bioware-Critic]

What I find quite annoyng about how it end Solas's romance is that finally we have a "different" male LI fo straight female.

 

How can you ask this after this kind of ending? In DA:I you really have tons of variety when it comes to romance and LI's! Take your pick! All of them are interesting and fun to play ...

 

Do you want to date Corypheus as well? Just for giggles, just to have "another kind of LI"? pffffhhh!

You are an imaginative one. I give you that. If you can

Spoiler

make a full blown LI with dates and all, out of an Elven God   

you will have earned my respect and I will transfer you 5€ to a bank account of your choosing

 

But I will say no more on this matter! This is all theory and speculation. And this whole thread is interesting but it also is kind of getting out of hand I am getting out of here

 

Take care!

[Felya87]

How can you ask this after this kind of ending? In DA:I you really have tons of variety when it comes to romance and LI's! Take your pick! All of them are interesting and fun to play ...

 

Do you want to date Corypheus as well? Just for giggles, just to have "another kind of LI"? pffffhhh!

 

 

So I can't be disappointed that finally there is a different, less warrior-like character (maybe you didin't notice, but all the other male LI romancable by female are warriors.) and more nerdy character, and (for now) it only end in a breack up...because? 

I don't really get your point, beside wanting to insult me.

[Arlee]

Honestly, I went through my whole first playthrough just waiting for the badness to happen because I figured it was pretty much inevitable. Even when I got through the end and everything was happy I was still sure something was about to happen... because it always does. I don't think everything should always be all happy endings, but even if I had picked Blackwall or Solas my first time the heartbreak would have lost a good amount of it's potential punch because I was expecting it.

[Bioware-Critic]

So I can't be disappointed that finally there is a different, less warrior-like character (maybe you didin't notice, but all the other male LI romancable by female are warriors.) and more nerdy character, and (for now) it only end in a breack up...because? 

I don't really get your point, beside wanting to insult me.

Felya87, I have absolutely NO intentions to insult you whatsoever!

 

All I am saying is, that there is tons of variety inDA:I when it comes to romances ...

 

I really like and enjoy the story and love-story around Solas. And since there are millions of people with different preferences playing this game and enjoying (or not) the romances and there are only so many characters available for romance, Bioware has to make decisions somewhere. It is obvious to me, that they will never be able to satisfy everyone. That should be clear as day. So, NO! I am not trying to be insensitive to your feelings here. I am just looking at this whole topic as game-content. It is not ment to make everyone as happy as possible, it is ment to entertain us. And all the people who were really well entertained by this dramatic story but were not looking for a LI here will probably never write in this thread. They will be content as they are    So suffise it to say - not EVERYONE is in agony because of Solas "backing out of this". And you will have to come to this conclusion yourself sooner or later!

 

I am really surprised by your answer ... which is the only reason why I answer you now. You seem to be articulate and nerdy and imaginative! It should not be hard for you to acknowledge the fact that Bioware has limits here and that they cannot predict the users reactions to everything. And that the writers want to offer variety to us. I did not anticipate Solas, his personality, his story, his background and so on. And I was very well entertained. I am happy with it. I see it very differently than some of you. I am not buying Bioware titles solely for the romances. I am buying them for being damn fine RPG's that have everything! And I think that is okay, too ...

 

Take care, Felya87!

[Felya87]

Felya87, I have absolutely NO intentions to insult you whatsoever!

 

All I am saying is, that there is tons of variety inDA:I when it comes to romances ...

 

I really like and enjoy the story and love-story around Solas. And since there are millions of people playing this game and ejnoying (or not) the romances and there are only so many characters available for romance, Bioware has to make decisions somewhere! It is obvious to me, that they will never be able to satisfy everyone! That should be clear as day! So, NO! I am not trying to be insensitive to your feelings here. I am just looking at this whole topic as game-content. It is not ment to make everyone as happy as possible, it is ment to entertain us. And all the people who were really well entertained by this dramatic story but where not looking for a LI here don't write in this thread. So suffise it to say - not EVERYONE is in agony because of Solas backing out of this. And you will have to come to this conclusion yourself sooner or later!

 

I am really surprised by your answer ... which is the only reason why I answer you now. You seem to be articulate and nerdy and imaginative! It should not be hard for you to acknowledge the fact that Bioware has limits here and that they cannot predict the users reactions to everything. And that the writers want to offer variety to us. I did not anticipate Solas, his personality, his story, his background and so on. And I was very well entertained. I am happy with it. I see it very differently than some of you. I am not bying DA titles solely for the romances! I am buying it for being a damn fine RPG that has everything! And I think that is okay, too.

 

Take care, Felya87!

 

English is not my first language, so I may have misunderstood. But I never said I'm agonysing or what. just that I am disappointed and a little annoyed, because we have this romance a little different from the usual "trend" (as I said, I don't know if I have explained what I intended)

I loved Solas's romance, but the fact that it have to end in such a way, expecially without player agency, for me is quite disappointing. I liked all of the romance, every scene, even with the less scenes compared to the others romances.

 

I'm whating the nerdy LI character from the times of NWN2, after all (Sand, my good old Sand...) and finally we had one, and...of course is the one with the saddest (great, but sad) romance ending and story of all. Great. 

 

I just would like, in the future, another chance for a LI with such characteristics, but with a chance for a happish conclusion. I liked Solas's romance, but I prefer having more light hearted conclusions.

[Abelas Forever!]

I wouldn't want tragedy for anyone, male or female. I wonder why anyone would (Not that I'm against their choice. Just curious what the thrill is there. Is it like enjoying horror movies?).

What kind of tragedy do you mean? I think Solas romance is a good example of a good tragic romance story. He knows that he shouldn't fall for Lavellan and you see how he fights back. But he can't deny his feelings and he surrenders to his feelings and to your feelings. You see how deeply he feels for Lavellan. He also suffers greatly because he really can't tell you who he is and that he has to leave you in the end. But he doesn't leave Lavellan because he doesn't love her. He just has to leave which is so sad and tragic. But of course if there isn't any reunion or a way to be with him in future DLC then I would say that it's a bad tragic romance story. So it's quite difficult to create a good tragic romance story because if you do it in a wrong way then it's ruined. It's not like watching horror movies. It's like following a path with difficulties and in the end there is  golden treasure. There is also the thing that the love is tested in many ways and still the couple tries to be together and end up being together after all those difficulties. It's true love.

 

I don't like tragic romances if it's something like your LI will die. It's so pointless. It's like collecting all the shards and not getting any reward. Of course there are exceptions. Like you both die at the same time or your deaths happens quite close to each others. Because then I would see that you will be reunited somewhere beyond. Of course this is very sad and tragic but if a romance will include dying then I would want it to happen like this. But in general I would avoid this kind of romance and I don't want to experience it.

[Abyss108]

No, talking about female romances doesn't add a quota. But this isn't what we're talking about. We're talking about distributing drama more equally among male and famle aimed romances. Which does imply a quota.

 

My comment about ballance never having merit was within the context of this discussion which is about giving males and females equale share of drama in romances. Obviously ballance in general encompasses more things. Things irrelevant to the discussion we're having.

 

Both your replies are related to you turning a blind eye to the context of our discussion, is there a  reason for this?

 

I haven't turned a blind eye to anything you've said. I've explained how it's relevant, and you simply keep arguing the same extreme argument that criticizing how something is written adds a quota. You can't argue that talking about female romances wouldn't add a quota, but then that comparing them to male romances will. 

 

Bioware is equally likely to do the following -

 

"We would like some happy romances" -> "Oh, we need a certain number of happy romances and sad romances, better add a quota"

"We would like a similar number of happy romances as the men" -> "Oh, we need a certain number of happy and sad romances, better add a quota"

 

You can't argue one of those is more likely than the other.

 

I also wouldn't say that I am being patronizing by agreeing with the multiple men in this topic who have complained that their romances are boring and they would like some tragedy too. I would say that is being supportive. If I was acting like I knew better than the men who were posting, and ignoring their wishes, THAT would be patronizing. This also ignores the fact that I sometimes play male characters so the content IS relevant to me, and also that I do not need to play that content in order to know that good writing has ups and downs in the story and so things like this should be included.

 

Orrrrrrr, really difficult choices giving the best of both worlds - say no to railroading 

 

Depends on what you mean by railroading. There are 2 people included in a relationship, and Bioware shouldn't write a happy ending if it is out of character for the NPC. They should certainly write different reactions for the PC and allow them to try to find a solution, but sometimes you can't fix someone/something. Not every story can or should have a happy ending. If it did, there would be no drama, as you would already know how everything would end.

 

This has probably been brought up a few times already, but: switching the protagonist for another if you're not romancing. That's not exactly tragedy, but that's kind of... diminishes the romance? I mean, you're supposed to have this grand passion, one true love and everything. The protagonist chasing Morrigan and so on.

 

Instead, take Blackwall, who falls hard and fast for Josephine if the protagonist isn't romancing him(or says "okay" when he says "this won't work, my lady!" But flowers for Josie work, apparently). Take Iron Bull, who keeps banging everything that moves, including cooks, Chantry sisters and probably some of the Chargers when we aren't looking. I mean, his relationship with Dorian may be the healthiest thing that could've happened to him, but still.

 

And yeah, there's Fenris/Isabella, OGB Alistair/Morrigan, Alistair/Leliana in Darkspawn Chronicles, and in DAI, guess what Warden Alistair says as he's about to depart? "Tell Morrigan [about my exploits in the Fade]..." Facepalm. 

 

And Iron Bull and Blackwall were supposed to be our ONLY male romance interests for female protagonists. And BOTH of them replace the Inquisitor with another person as soon as the Inquisitor says "no". Within _hours_.

 

Thank the Bioware for Solas and Cullen, that's all I can say. 

(Though I still headcanon Cullen/Mage Warden, myself).

 

Wow, I didn't know that about Blackwall! That's massively sucky of him to tell the PC it won't work because of his issues and then immediately hook up with someone else. Ugh.

 

I'm not sure what the problem for Iron Bull is though? I think that only happens if you don't start a serious relationship with him.  It seems OK to me that he would hook up with other people if you are not interested. Or does he still do this whilst he's in a relationship with you?

 

I do look at what was originally going to be the LI's for a female inquisitor and go "wth??" though...

[Elsariel]

 

Wow, I didn't know that about Blackwall! That's massively sucky of him to tell the PC it won't work because of his issues and then immediately hook up with someone else. Ugh.

 

 

Weeeell... I wouldn't call Blackwall's interest in the "other person" a real hookup.  

 

Spoiler

He's interested in Josephine and gives her flowers and little gifts and stuff but he and Josephine both know it'll never amount to anything due to their very different stations in life. It never goes further than that.

 

I do think it odd that he expresses this interest in the "other person" in the same play through where you romanced him and broke up.  Were it like DA2 where years go by after each act then I could see it, but my impression is that DA:I only takes a matter of a few months.  That seems too soon.  Unless.... Blackwall was never that into you in the first place?  Which.....   That's pretty uncool.  

[Abyss108]

Weeeell... I wouldn't call Blackwall's interest in the "other person" a real hookup.  

 

Spoiler

He's interested in Josephine and gives her flowers and little gifts and stuff but he and Josephine both know it'll never amount to anything due to their very different stations in life. It never goes further than that.

 

I do think it odd that he expresses this interest in the "other person" in the same play through where you romanced him and broke up.  Were it like DA2 where years go by after each act then I could see it, but my impression is that DA:I only takes a matter of a few months.  That seems too soon.  Unless.... Blackwall was never that into you in the first place?  Which.....   That's pretty uncool.  

 

Well it's still weird he thinks he's too damaged for you, but is then willing to flirt with Josie whether he's romanced or not. Either his issues aren't too much for HER (unlike you), or he's just leading her on. Or he was lying to you in the romance about his issues being the problem, and just didn't like you that much.  Everything I hear about this guy makes me hate him...

[Elsariel]

This has probably been brought up a few times already, but: switching the protagonist for another if you're not romancing. That's not exactly tragedy, but that's kind of... diminishes the romance? I mean, you're supposed to have this grand passion, one true love and everything. The protagonist chasing Morrigan and so on.

 

I don't find this at all a problem.  Why wouldn't people find attraction in others if you don't express an interest in them?  And why is that bad?  I guess I've never viewed love as a "One true love" or "soulmates" thing.  I don't believe in that.  I think people can find deep and meaningful love with a variety of people.  

[Elsariel]

Well it's still weird he thinks he's too damaged for you, but is then willing to flirt with Josie whether he's romanced or not. Either his issues aren't too much for HER (unlike you), or he's just leading her on. Or he was lying to you in the romance about his issues being the problem, and just didn't like you that much.  Everything I hear about this guy makes me hate him...

 

Maybe he flirts with Josie because he KNOWS it won't amount to anything.  He can express his admiration without worrying that it'll get too far. He can't hurt her if they don't get very close.   

[Abyss108]

Maybe he flirts with Josie because he KNOWS it won't amount to anything.  He can express his admiration without worrying that it'll get too far. He can't hurt her if they don't get very close.   

 

Except... it could? Josie will hook up with the inquisitor regardless of station/who they are. You could be a female dwarven carta thug, and she'll still fall in love with you. Unless Blackwall tells her he's just giving her gifts to express platonic admiration, there's no reason for her not to take him seriously...

[Elsariel]

Except... it could? Josie will hook up with the inquisitor regardless of station/who they are. You could be a female dwarven carta thug, and she'll still fall in love with you. Unless Blackwall tells her he's just giving her gifts to express platonic admiration, there's no reason for her not to take him seriously...

 

That's...... a good point.  Why is it not okay to be with Blackwall but it is ok to be with a mage, dalish elf, carta, or Qunari?   Josephine is the one in the game that tells you she and Blackwall could never be a thing due to their stations so.... that's odd.  

[Ryzaki]

That's...... a good point.  Why is it not okay to be with Blackwall but it is ok to be with a mage, dalish elf, carta, or Qunari?   Josephine is the one in the game that tells you she and Blackwall could never be a thing due to their stations so.... that's odd.  

 

I guess being the Inquisitor is a get out of station free card?

 

I dunno.

[whitless256]

That's...... a good point.  Why is it not okay to be with Blackwall but it is ok to be with a mage, dalish elf, carta, or Qunari?   Josephine is the one in the game that tells you she and Blackwall could never be a thing due to their stations so.... that's odd.  

 

Well, being the Inquisitor does give you some pretty decent political standing, despite origin.  You may have been a carta thug, but now you're the Inquisitor.  You've got some rank on you.  Though I don't think Josie cares about it either way.

 

In any case, I think the inconsistency comes down to one thing... bad writing.

[wildannie]

wildannie, I have no clue what will happen. I don't know if and how Bioware will connect to this teaser like epilogue.

 

Spoiler

In the end it contained not just Solas but also Flementh (also that is not 100% correct) and an elven god and and a ton of other information. Information of "the size of a small city to be exact". It will also matter what you or your Inq did at the well if their will be a DLC! ...

But I would be happy to play a DLC which is dedicated to this. But I would also be happy be learn that Bioware will continue this in other ways.

For example in several years in DA:4 who knows.

 

Take care!

Thanks for responding Bioware-Critic, obviously we know what my preference is with regards when we get some kind of resolution to all those questions... soon please!

[Lilacs]

Just like Bioware modeled its open world after Skyrim their next game will add romance.  I'm happy for the most part with the writing staff on Bioware, but I think that just like understand their strengths and what they do well, they should understand that they made a conscious choice to write to a particular audience which is more focused than say Bethesda.  When you do that, you need to then work with that audience.

 

People are fickle.

 

Dragon Age: Inquisition is not the only game that's following the 'open world' trend. The next Witcher game will be: open world.  That said, Dragon Age: Inquisition is a 'semi-open world'.  And as I mentioned before, Dragon Age: Inquisition is its own game. The Creative Director and the Executive Producer might have looked at Skyrim, but what other game companies out there that are not? Skyrim is a high selling game.  Put your imagination to work there. =)

 

Bethesda does include romances in their games; this will not be a new thing. What might be new would be adding depth and multilayer/multi-dimensionalism to their romances.  

 

The writers at Bioware are delivering. It is that what they are delivering is not acceptable to 'some' fans.  When a company is trying to reach a mass audience, it can only go so far, but in Bioware's case, the writers do attempt to provide 'variety' in the hopes that every fan can find something they might like.  Now, it is not Bioware's fault if some fans become so invested and so attached to the character(s) they create and provide to us, the players, that some fans ultimately desire a certain outcome for those said characters. This is what's occurring here.  Certain players want immediate relief--an immediate closure to the character(s) they became attached to. Where Solas is concerned, from my observation, his story is not over to me because he is such an integral part of the main story. We will see him again.

 

I can understand their views to some extent. What I do not desire, though, is for fans to demand certain things right away when they are other problems that must be addressed first with the game.  A fan needs to attempt to see from a writer's perspective. A writer must be allowed to use his or her creativity to create or produce.  The writers should write first and foremost for themselves first. If they start writing for fans first, that would be limiting their potential, and thereby squash their original ideas and their creativity; it would be like Renoir painting on plates before he started creating for himself; It was when he began to create masterpieces.

 

Now would we have the story of Solas as it is right now if the writer was writing for fans first and not for himself (as well as the vision of the Creative Director and of the Executive Producer)? I don't believe we would have.

[Ascendra]

This has probably been brought up a few times already, but: switching the protagonist for another if you're not romancing. That's not exactly tragedy, but that's kind of... diminishes the romance? I mean, you're supposed to have this grand passion, one true love and everything. The protagonist chasing Morrigan and so on.

 

Instead, take Blackwall, who falls hard and fast for Josephine if the protagonist isn't romancing him(or says "okay" when he says "this won't work, my lady!" But flowers for Josie work, apparently). Take Iron Bull, who keeps banging everything that moves, including cooks, Chantry sisters and probably some of the Chargers when we aren't looking. I mean, his relationship with Dorian may be the healthiest thing that could've happened to him, but still.

 

And yeah, there's Fenris/Isabella, OGB Alistair/Morrigan, Alistair/Leliana in Darkspawn Chronicles, and in DAI, guess what Warden Alistair says as he's about to depart? "Tell Morrigan [about my exploits in the Fade]..." Facepalm. 

 

And Iron Bull and Blackwall were supposed to be our ONLY male romance interests for female protagonists. And BOTH of them replace the Inquisitor with another person as soon as the Inquisitor says "no". Within _hours_.

 

Thank the Bioware for Solas and Cullen, that's all I can say. 

(Though I still headcanon Cullen/Mage Warden, myself).

 

I... actually feel weird about this.

On one hand I don't mind and I've stated as such before. I dont mind LIs getting together or getting with someone if our protagonist does not romance them because thats what always happens in RL - these situations reflect reality. And in reality I dont love my bf less just because he was or may potentially be with someone else. On the other hand from a fantasy story perspective I do want a sob story where you get a chance to find that single person that is basically destined for you and you are destined for them. I sometimes play games just for that - to get this feel of a perfect fantasy that is unachievable in real life.

 

Btw Kulyok, I wanted to say this before but I absolutely love your Xan romance. For me BG is incomplete without it.

 

 

I guess being the Inquisitor is a get out of station free card?

 

I dunno.

 

Well, the Inquisitor is a super special snowflake, no one can resist his/her charms

 

In all seriousness I got a feeling she just doesn't like him enough, there are also age difference (Quizzy is likely younger although the game never states it), Grey Warden questionable business and his general attitude.

[Sylvianus]

I wouldn't want tragedy for anyone, male or female. I wonder why anyone would (Not that I'm against their choice. Just curious what the thrill is there. Is it like enjoying horror movies?).

 

To each his own, not everyone has the same tastes, and that's why it's hardly justifiable to ask removing variety with the options, no matter what we like or dislike. An angst romance or a tragic romance can be as beautiful as a very sweet romance, sometimes even more beautiful. It's simply a different story telling. 

 

It can make you feel different strong emotions that could punch you, that could make you feel intensely the whole romance content during all the game and that is actually the point of a writer. I'd consider as a failure a romance that affected nobody, that nobody really felt, even if you could have your perfect fantasy ending, your perfect dysney romance where everything is absolutely sweet rainbows, and all. Yes a bad ending can suck, but the journey can make it worth it and sometimes, that 's all it needs.

 

With Morrigan for example I was satisfied in DAO, I didn't need a DLC, and I am very satisfied with the end of my relationship with her, ( I was the Prince-consort of Ferelden. ) My warden will never forget Morrigan, and the same for her, they lived a beautiful story, Morrigan will always be his true love even if he could end with Anora, and the same for Morrigan, but their relationship was the story of passion and an impossible love and I like it. Now they moved on, you don't always need " they lived together forever " in the end to appreciate strongly a relationship that happened in your life or in your story. As long as the tragedy is well done, I don't really see the issue, again if there is variety elsewhere. Thane in M2 was good to me. 

 

I could tell you that with Josephine, I am not really satisfied personally, and I kinda wish that Solas was a female elf instead and my other option despite his ending. Josie's romance content didn't affect me at all and that's what I find terribly horrible. I'd rather feel strongly about the ending of my romance, than feeling nothing personally.  I felt everything in the story of DAI for my character except his relationship with his LI. I was totally deconnected, not impressed, not excited. " Yeah, they are together in the end,... good, I don't really care actually " is my reaction.  Hell, I am not even able to write a fanfiction with her, while I did gladly with Morrigan. 

 

I felt so much the romance in DAO, that I could share easily what my warden felt with words to other people who never romanced Morrigan and disliked her, and yet loved my piece.

 

Despite people complaining for Solas in this thread, it's just astonishing how everyone where I go on some sites, find the Solas romance incredible, even straight males who rolled a female elf just for him and because it was tied to the story. Everyone seems positive. Bioware really succeeded to create something with this romance, and I don't think that's just because of the path, the ending counted too. The whole tragedy overall. Solas worked a bit the same way as Morrigan. People found it beautiful, people were hurt, and that strong feeling is beautiful. At least to me. This tragic romance has just been very successful.  

 

So really, maybe you might not be able to appreciate tragic endings, or tragic romances, but there are people who can, and they have legetimate reasons to feel that way. In the end, it's a matter of perspective anyway.

[Ryzaki]

Well, the Inquisitor is a super special snowflake, no one can resist his/her charms

 

In all seriousness I got a feeling she just doesn't like him enough, there are also age difference (Quizzy is likely younger although the game never states it), Grey Warden questionable business and his general attitude.

 

True enough XD

 

Yeah that reeks of an excuse. Either that or Leliana scared him off. Ho ho ho.

 

But actually yeah I don't usually go for BW's tragic romances (mostly because the tragedy tends to be due to stupidity and plot dumb and that's not tragic that's just stupid) but Solas worked very well.

[Zobert]

Screw Solas!  I'm still bitter that you can't be a mage and marry Alastair! 

[Abelas Forever!]

There are different romances which you can choose from. But of course you don't know before you have tried them which one of them will end badly in your opinion. I don't choose a certain romance because of the story it tells. I choose the LI first. Which LI is the most interesting. So if somebody says that just pick another romance then it wouldn't be the same.That's why I think there should be options where you can either choose a happier ending with your LI or more tragic or dramatic ending. Choices don't have to be something like your PC will decide should she/he stay with this LI or not. Should she move on or not after the "breakup". It could be that something that you had done has consequences like if you could choose to recruit Loghain and Alistair doens't leave you then you would get more options regarding the final battle. Of course there are occasions where it makes no sense that you will be offered choices like Solas romance in the end of DAI. But that doesn't mean that those choices couldn't be in future DLC.

 

I like tough decision because then the story is more meaningful. Of course there is always risks in tough decisions. How to make tough decisions so that the decisions are tough but not too tough. For me DR is little bit too tough even though I can deal with it. I would take Solas back if that would be possible. He wouldn't even have  to explain anything But I wouldn't ever take Jacob back even if he would be begging it on his knees.

[Cmpunker13]

 

• Anders, DA2 - Both Genders.  Betrays Hawke - this is inevitable since it's part of the main plot. (Note, he's loyal if you let him live... and despite doing something ABSOLUTELY horrible, he gets a happy-ish ending?)

 

"Absolutely horrible"? If you roleplay Hawke you can agree with Anders actions...

[9TailsFox]

"Absolutely horrible"? If you roleplay Hawke you can agree with Anders actions...

Yes. My sarcastic Hawke mage was mad at Anders he don't let to help him.

[9TailsFox]

 

Dragon Age: Inquisition is not the only game that's following the 'open world' trend. The next Witcher game will be: open world.  That said, Dragon Age: Inquisition is a 'semi-open world'.  And as I mentioned before, Dragon Age: Inquisition is its own game. The Creative Director and the Executive Producer might have looked at Skyrim, but what other game companies out there that are not? Skyrim is a high selling game.  Put your imagination to work there. =)

 

Bethesda does include romances in their games; this will not be a new thing. What might be new would be adding depth and multilayer/multi-dimensionalism to their romances.  

 

The writers at Bioware are delivering. It is that what they are delivering is not acceptable to 'some' fans.  When a company is trying to reach a mass audience, it can only go so far, but in Bioware's case, the writers do attempt to provide 'variety' in the hopes that every fan can find something they might like.  Now, it is not Bioware's fault if some fans become so invested and so attached to the character(s) they create and provide to us, the players, that some fans ultimately desire a certain outcome for those said characters. This is what's occurring here.  Certain players want immediate relief--an immediate closure to the character(s) they became attached to. Where Solas is concerned, from my observation, his story is not over to me because he is such an integral part of the main story. We will see him again.

 

I can understand their views to some extent. What I do not desire, though, is for fans to demand certain things right away when they are other problems that must be addressed first with the game.  A fan needs to attempt to see from a writer's perspective. A writer must be allowed to use his or her creativity to create or produce.  The writers should write first and foremost for themselves first. If they start writing for fans first, that would be limiting their potential, and thereby squash their original ideas and their creativity; it would be like Renoir painting on plates before he started creating for himself; It was when he began to create masterpieces.

 

Now would we have the story of Solas as it is right now if the writer was writing for fans first and not for himself (as well as the vision of the Creative Director and of the Executive Producer)? I don't believe we would have.

 

Well said. Morrigan romance is best in DA and I am happy how it "ended?" But if writer wanted Flemeth to rip off Morrigans heart and rub it in Inquisitors face I am fine, who I am to argue, I am not writer. And Solas(It's same as Morrigan left after DA:O) story not even done we have tears enough to fill Waking Sea.

 

Main story >>>>>>> romances.