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[actionhero112]

Uh no. I like drama. I wish every romance broke my heart. In fact every romance in a bioware game should make you question the relationship at some point. 

 

As far as I'm concerned, for a series that claims to be dark fantasy, some of the romances are far too vanilla for me. This isn't Alladin, I'm not Princess Jasmine. 

 

Bring it on Gaider. 

 

Should there be an option for those with weak hearts? Yes. And there is, Cullen is a big teddy bear. Josephine's romance is fairy tale quality. I don't see the problem. 

 

No wait that's a lie, yes I do, people want to alter specific characters to fit their personal desires, because they're selfish and they only think about the characters in the terms of their romance. I put this complaint in the same realm as dudebros complaining about attractiveness in the straight male romances. 

 

You think you're going to know everything about someone when you start dating them and you're guaranteed to not get your heart broken at some point? Please. That's not even how real life works, let alone a video game. 

[Uirebhiril]

Pleas tell me you joking.

You get

Cullen

Iron Bull 

Blakwall

Solas

 

Ok Solas tragic as you say. I don't know about Blackwall. DA:I romances panders to straight women. You have Qunari, elf. 

 

The post wasn't made to ask for more romances, but to ask that fewer of them end up in a situation where the female PC ends up dumped/cheated on/betrayed.

 

Also the writers made characters that fit the story and gave some of them a romance arc that made sense. In this case it happened to, for once, offer more to female characters. The word "pandering" really needs to just GTFO.

 

Looking at just DAI's characters, one is into BDSM and I guess tells you that he knows you need to be dominated? Thanks for making up my mind for me. Some people like the look and the romance. I admit it was fun to watch. I will never do the romance myself, but that's personal taste so fine, good. Glad he's there for those that like it. Not all options need to appeal to me. I'll give benefit of the doubt that his romance has a nice ending and won't come back to smack people upside the head in the future for some Qun related whatever depending on what choices you took in the game.

 

Another character lies, bangs, and leaves. That's going to make some people very uncomfortable. Many will forgive and forget out of liking the character or wanting to continue the romance. Either way they are a liar who murdered children to, I guess, save face? And rather than own up to it, hid like a coward from the reality. Even if he then tried to live a good life, it was someone else's life and not his own. Even the redemption aspect felt like he was doing it because it made him look good, like it was an attempt to live up to an image in his head and not because he was actually repenting and finally owning up to it. Very neat character, yes. Just not most people's idea of a good romance story.

 

Solas, well, we all know that one. Beautiful and tragic in the right ways, but you still get left cold at the end of the game and are just as much left in the dark. There's a want for resolution there, and not have it be completely done and over after a parting line of "yo, it was real, but I gotta git. Peace." Add to that how there's the potential need to fight or kill him later, and yep, not most people's idea of a good romance story. Even saying that he's one character for whom the tragic ending would work perfectly... if he wasn't one among the many.

 

Cullen is probably the "safest" sweet romance, and it's nice he's available even with the issues of lyrium addiction. For all we know he succumbs to it in DLC or the next game, so for as good as the romance resolved in DAI we can't be sure it won't kick people in the teeth later.

 

Which ends up being the point of this thread.

 

Do you suppose we'll see where a romanced Cassandra dies in an attack by taking an arrow for the inquisitor? Gets assassinated because some people refuse to follow her as Divine? Have her decide that based on one or two obscure decisions in the early-mid parts of the game that she can't stay with the inquisitor any longer?

 

Will Josephine end up ripped from the romance and forcibly married off to a nice noble man to help her family's status? I hear rumors there's an arranged marriage thing in her future somewhere, but haven't done her romance yet so not sure. Or she could end up being swayed in the Game to attempt to murder the inquisitor, maybe? Perhaps a decision made by the inquisitor leads to her sister being slaughtered, and Josie dumps her lover as a result?

 

The likelihood we'll see any of that is pretty low.

 

I honestly do enjoy tension and tragedy as part of storytelling, but there is still a point to be made here. We've finally moved away from dead wives, we have been given  some genuinely interesting and complex characters - even if I won't do all the romances myself, I see the appeal and appreciate them - but I think we are good with sharing inevitable outcomes that lead to tragedy, heartbreak, or unpleasant decisions. Sorrow shared is halved, right?

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

The one that was hardest for me to handle was Solas, since is very well written and quite fascinating. I pray to the Gods of Gaming that we'll get a Wolf Hunt DLC, but I won't lie - I'm pessimistic.

Probably better not to expect a Witch Hunt style DLC, id be surprised if anything like that happened considering Solas is a female only romance & female PC's generally don't get DLC that has alot of exclusive stuff just for them

[whitless256]

So I've read this entire topic and debated for a while on if I wanted to reply.  I think I understand the sentiment, but I also think that some of the folks throwing in their agreement aren't considering the other parts of the playerbase.  Namely, the women who LOVE  a good, tragic romance (Morrigan leaving my Warden was my favorite origins romance and I couldn't get that on a female character).   I want to try to break this down into what I'm hearing, so please correct any points on which I might be off.

 

1) Some people don't seem to want tragic romances.  They don't like investing their emotion into a romance that turns out to end poorly.  And there are several definitions of what poorly means, from those who think Blackwall is a happy ending to those who think he's the worst thing out there. 

 

2)  Some people don't mind tragic romances, but they want to see other romance types have the same experience.  I'm slightly unclear as to what this group of folks wants.  It seems like in one breath they say tragedy is okay, but why always women?  Which seems to imply that they want a game where, for once, only a man gets his heart broken.  Or at least they want other people to suffer right along with them.  But when it comes right down to it, most of the people in this camp are confusing me, as they claim in one breath they like tragedy, but don't want it.   I'd love some clarity on this, if anyone can provide.  What exactly are you asking to happen in future games?

 

3) Now, this is me reading a bit between the lines, but there seems to be a third camp that is upset that their favorite romance (Solas, Thane, Jacob) turned out to have a sad ending.  These are the folks that, when presented with the counterpoint that they have Cullen and Iron Bull (and Blackwall, depending on your point of view) as happy ending romances, say that they don't want those romances.  They don't like Cullen or Iron Bull and Blackwall's a big jerk.   This is where I get REALLY confused, as it seems like these people want Solas and Thane to be happy endings when you basically walk into both of these relationships (Thane especially) with a clear indication that it won't end well.  Solas tells you over and over that it won't end well.  That this can't happen.  But yeah, his timing breaking things off really stinks.  Too abrupt.  I think it would have worked better as two scenes.  But he DOES tell you at the end that what you had was real, but he can't stay.  Best romance in game, IMO.  I would be disappointed if it had abandoned all logic just to work out as a happy ending. 

 

But overall, what is actually bothering me here are the people who are brushing off the others who come to this thread with their tragic romances.  Friend-zoned by Aveline?  Not the same thing.  Dumped by Divine Cassandra?  Avoidable, so it doesn't count. (Personally, if I loved and trusted Cassandra as the best Divine, why would I be selfish enough to watch Thedas go to hell under the reign of Leliana just so Cassandra won't leave me?)  Sera demanding a Dalish give up their religion?  Doesn't count. Walked out on for two years by Morrigan?  That's 'acceptable tragedy' because you MIGHT get back together in a DLC.  Hell, Fenris walks out on Hawke immediately after sex and breaks things off for three years.  That's really kinda crappy, Fenris.   Why is it okay for Fenris to walk out on you after sex, but not Blackwall?  The lying thing for Blackwall makes total sense as a reason to be crushed, but I'm seeing more complaints about him leaving you after sex than about him lying.  At least he had a reason.  Fenris' reason was because angst.  Morrigan walking out after sex also seems to be acceptable.  Only Blackwall is a jerk for this.

 

I think my point is that there are only so many romantic storylines that can exist and Bioware cannot realistically appeal to everyone and have a romance that's perfect for everyone.  So they try to put in a variety of romantic stories, some happy, some sad.  Some of us love tragic stories, so why would I want them to not include one tragic story per game for my female character?   

 

But I do agree that they should spread the tragedy around.  Not because I think everyone should suffer equally, but because I want the opportunity for my male characters to have the same deep, interesting relationship stories, some happy, some sad, that the female protagonists are lucky enough to have access to.  I'm a sucker for tragedy, so please, Bioware, keep including good, tragic romances!   I love them!

[Sylvianus]

Straight women have four romances in this game. That quite allows Bioware to give some variety. 

 

Straight men, got only two Lis, with Cassandra being the divine in many playthroughs against our will. And don't tell me this is a choice, because it isn't, I didn't want Cassandra to become divine, but because of what I did in the game, the game forced the ending to choose my Li as the new divine while it wasn't what I wanted.

 

That's half of my romances. 

 

Lesbians and gay people have only two romance too, so, it's normal that they dont have tragic romances.

 

Straight women got Cullen, a very sweet romance. Iron bull, very fun and the relationship can finally turn into something serious. That's two sweet romances like the other demographics. 

[Efvie]

Even if the ending was not what you wanted...was the story leading up to the ending at least above average?  If that is the case, you may have had a better experience.

 

You can’t just tell people they had a better experience from your perspective If they had a less than ideal experience, then that’s what it was…

 

The easy way fix to that is make lady LI give sucker punches in kind.

 

…That doesn’t seem like a good fix at all (unless there is a desire for more tragedy on the male PC side). It’s not a competition.

 

So I've read this entire topic and debated for a while on if I wanted to reply.  I think I understand the sentiment, but I also think that some of the folks throwing in their agreement aren't considering the other parts of the playerbase.

 

I think you’re ignoring the fact that nobody’s asking for all tragedy to be removed. My suggestion that there be a toggle is probably the most radical of all, and even that doesn’t remove the tragic romances from those that want it.

[actionhero112]

Also the objection that people innately don't want drama in their media? Completely false.

 

Hit shows are all dramas. Game of Thrones? Drama. Breaking Bad? Drama. Turn on the TV? Crime drama, Crime drama, CRIME DRAMA.

 

Everyone wants drama. You can pretend you don't, but you do. It's why people gossip, it's why Bioware's stories are a success, because they are filled with drama. You don't get to pick and choose how Bioware writes the drama into the story or characters though. Pretending you have the right to do so just so you can feel fuzzy inside is both unfair to Bioware and to everyone else. 

[Hair Serious Business]

Wait hold on hold on...just Alistair thing got me confused in here.If you mean on him doing ritual with Morrigan I can't call that cheating since your Warden is one that forced him to do it in first way...and second...Alistair cheats on you with Leliana o_O??????????

Did I missed something in game because I don't know of Leliana x Alistair part!?

[Efvie]

 

Also the objection that people innately don't want drama in their media? Completely false.

 

Hit shows are all dramas. Game of Thrones? Drama. Breaking Bad? Drama. Turn on the TV? Crime drama, Crime drama, CRIME DRAMA.

 

 

There are dramas of various quality. I could list a dozen rom-coms that mine drama from ridiculous misunderstandings and childish behavior. Then there are others with more complex arcs; sometimes sad, sometimes not.

 

Also, in the interest of accuracy, the word ‘drama’ in those contexts doesn’t have the colloquial connotation of emotion-tugging. It means a acting, typically in an unexaggerated manner to portray a story somewhat realistically.

[Ryzaki]

Wait hold on hold on...just Alistair thing got me confused in here.If you mean on him doing ritual with Morrigan I can't call that cheating since your Warden is one that forced him to do it in first way...and second...Alistair cheats on you with Leliana o_O??????????

Did I missed something in game because I don't know of Leliana x Alistair part!?

 

The leliana bit is nonsense. I'm guessing someone's referring to him getting with Leliana in darkspawn chronicles but that's absurd. The FemPC's dead. How is he cheating on a corpse One that he never even romanced in the first place at that?!?

[Hair Serious Business]

The leliana bit is nonsense. I'm guessing someone's referring to him getting with Leliana in darkspawn chronicles but that's absurd. The FemPC's dead. How is he cheating on a corpse One that he never even romanced in the first place at that?!?

 

Ah that.

~Phew~ I got seriously worried in here,but if this is case idk how anyone then anyone can take whole DC DLC seriously I mean whole DLC is well...joke! It has nothing to do with anything when it comes to DA it is pretty much just there to play as darkspawn and nothing else.

[Ryzaki]

Ah that.

~Phew~ I got seriously worried in here,but if this is case idk how anyone then anyone can take whole DC DLC seriously I mean whole DLC is well...joke! It has nothing to do with anything when it comes to DA it is pretty much just there to play as darkspawn and nothing else.

 

Yeah I just *shrug* that said I'd love if BW spread the tragedy around more. That way tragedy lovers could still get their fixes and it wouldn't be so overly loaded on fem PC's LIs.

[Kimberly]

Also the objection that people innately don't want drama in their media? Completely false.

Hit shows are all dramas. Game of Thrones? Drama. Breaking Bad? Drama. Turn on the TV? Crime drama, Crime drama, CRIME DRAMA.

Everyone wants drama. You can pretend you don't, but you do. It's why people gossip, it's why Bioware's stories are a success, because they are filled with drama. You don't get to pick and choose how Bioware writes the drama into the story or characters though. Pretending you have the right to do so just so you can feel fuzzy inside is both unfair to Bioware and to everyone else.

Nobody is saying remove the drama. It just seems skewed that the male LIs in past to present have more tragedy & heartbreak. I don't mind it for myself every once in awhile. One of my absolute favorites is Thane from ME2. Sure I wanted him cured, but he died in the middle of ME3. I can accept it, it was wonderfully tragic. And Jacob cheats on you. I don't think its right that straight females go into new games wondering, ok what tragic, unavoidable situation are we going to encounter with our LI. There is a pattern now.
I know we have 4 LIs in this game but it's still there. We're just questioning why it's always on the male LIs.

[whitless256]

I think you’re ignoring the fact that nobody’s asking for all tragedy to be removed. My suggestion that there be a toggle is probably the most radical of all, and even that doesn’t remove the tragic romances from those that want it.

 

I think if you'd read my entire post, you'd understand that's not what I said.   Some people want there to be less tragedy in female romances.  Some people, like myself, want it to stay the same.   That would be that other part of the playerbase I was refering to.

 

I'm not sure how a toggle would work given that it's impossible to describe what's tragic and what's not on the basis of a simple black and white on/off switch.  Some people in this discussion, including ones asking for less angst in female romances, have expressed some examples of tragedy they were okay with, and even liked.  So a 'tragedy off' toggle would cut them off from things they might enjoy.

 

I think the basic problem is that no one knows if they'll like how a romance turns out until they complete it, and by that time they've... already completed it.  The only way to avoid that is spoilers, which most of us prefer not to have before we start out.  So I'm not sure there's really a solution here.  Some of us want a good tragic romance, but unless Bioware puts a stamp on that LI's forehead that says WATCH OUT I'LL BREAK YOUR HEART, no one has any way of knowing in advance.  So either they do what I think the OP is suggesting and have the tragic romances hit the men only next time and give the women a break (which would, unfortunately disapoint those of us who don't want a break) or you're risking hitting the tragic romance on your first go without knowing it's coming.  Either suggesting will uspet a significant chunk of the playerbase.

[actionhero112]

 

There are dramas of various quality. I could list a dozen rom-coms that mine drama from ridiculous misunderstandings and childish behavior. Then there are others with more complex arcs; sometimes sad, sometimes not.

 

Also, in the interest of accuracy, the word ‘drama’ in those contexts doesn’t have the colloquial connotation of emotion-tugging. It means acting, typically in a serious and unexaggerated manner.

The point stands that people like heart break. It's universally the most successful genre in media. Romeo and Juliet? Drama. Hamlet? Drama. Western culture loves drama to the point of worship. Even in stuff like Toy Story, Woody schemes to get rid of his potential rival, Buzz Lightyear. We eat that up. 

 

It's disingenuous to pretend that we don't like it. So what we're really dealing with in this discussion is people wanting to pick and choose where the artist puts that heartbreak and drama. Not a huge fan of censorship myself, but I've always supported the artists and the people who create media first, before what their audience  thinks they want. 

[We'll bang okay]

They were saying how difficult it was.

 

Mage or non-human? Either be his mistress (which sucks and is easy to miss without a guide telling you that he needs to be hardened) or keep him in the Grey Wardens. Either way the only way both of you live is if you force him sleep with another woman (ewwwwwww).

 

Have him stay in the Wardens? Then you've got to choose between him or Hawke, thus forcing another unhappy ending on you.

 

Only people that play human nobles and become queen are ultimately going to be happy it seems.

okay now I see what there saying, but at least it can end happy I think that's the main thing 

[SamanthaJ]

Probably better not to expect a Witch Hunt style DLC, id be surprised if anything like that happened considering Solas is a female only romance & female PC's generally don't get DLC that has alot of exclusive stuff just for them

And that's not fair.

[Cosmia]

The point stands that people like heart break. It's universally the most successful genre in media. Romeo and Juliet? Drama. Hamlet? Drama. Western culture loves drama to the point of worship. Even in stuff like Toy Story, Woody schemes to get rid of his potential rival, Buzz Lightyear. We eat that up. 

 

It's disingenuous to pretend that we don't like it. So what we're really dealing with in this discussion is people wanting to pick and choose where the artist puts that heartbreak and drama. Not a huge fan of censorship myself, but I've always supported the artists and the people who create media first, before what their audience  thinks they want. 

What is the problem with distributing it more evenly, if everyone likes it?

[Uirebhiril]

I think if you'd read my entire post, you'd understand that's not what I said.   Some people want there to be less tragedy in female romances.  Some people, like myself, want it to stay the same.   That would be that other part of the playerbase I was refering to.

 

 

I don't necessarily want less tragedy, as long as it's good fulfilling tragedy. Having the option to choose if it ends in tragedy or with some level of happiness is good too. I just agree that it'd be nice to see others have the tragic love interest now and then. It really does seem to be heavily lumped on the female side of things. Not intentionally, I'm sure, and it's probably difficult to find the line between "too easy and boring" and "nah, watch them suffer." That line will be drawn differently by all of us, so it's not an easy task.

 

Sera was mentioned above, and while that's a good conflict I wouldn't call it tragedy. I was surprised and actually pleased that there was such a layer of complexity to the character. And... even then you can decide if the beliefs of your people mattered more than your relationship with her. It gave you a choice to play out as fits your character and your own desires. It was a nice moment for roleplaying, but not inevitable heartbreak.

[Sylvianus]

Nobody is saying remove the drama. It just seems skewed that the male LIs in past to present have more tragedy & heartbreak. I don't mind it for myself every once in awhile. One of my absolute favorites is Thane from ME2. Sure I wanted him cured, but he died in the middle of ME3. I can accept it, it was wonderfully tragic. And Jacob cheats on you. I don't think its right that straight females go into new games wondering, ok what tragic, unavoidable situation are we going to encounter with our LI. There is a pattern now.
I know we have 4 LIs in this game but it's still there. We're just questions why it's always on the male LIs.

 

Hum, yes, that seems the case since variety doesn't seem enough to satisfy you ? I don't understand the issue in DA:I to be honest. You have more romances than the other demograhics, you have Cullen and Iron Bull. So what's wrong with Solas and Blackwall ?. That seems really weird to complain about variety.; Pick the two romances which are sweet if that's what you are looking for in this case ?  Unless what bothers folks is more that the tragic romance concerned their favourite character, a bad luck ? 

 

I'd rather have two sweet romances and two tragic ones, than only two romances like other demographics got personally. 

 

I'd find the matter and the topic less problematic if it weren't about how straight women are apparently getting the end of the stick  ( again ), because it isn't the case,  and more overall about if it is possible to affect the tragic ending. 

[Shari'El]

I am sorry if it looked like attacked. For straight female LI in DAI never been better. I wish we had female Qunari (Iron Bull has fetishes I'm comfortable with)

Solas romance similar to Morrigan. He leaves at the end same as Morrigan because plot. Solas romance not even finish and you declaring it tragic.

Leliana is crazy in DA:O in DA:I she is, Maker save us all. She past crazy.

 

In DA2 

Merrill again why crazy one.

Isabela she lie to Hawke she could just give dame book to Hawke and Hawke give it to Arishok so many people would been saved.(she left my Hawke in a room and disappeared, she outright lied through the entire first part of their relationship and she did things I couldn't forgive. It would've been tons better if the sex scene would've occurred after the Hawke finds out about Isabela past)

No happy ending Hawke and LI separated because plot. And Hawke can die. Thank the Maker Alistair is king if I have pick Alistair or Hawke I would throw my monitor trough the window.

 

Josephine just boring and compared to other romances so short and lacking.

Cassandra I see nothing to complain. We can make Cass less chantry. I not romanced her yet but what I her it is good.

 

So you saying you have 4 romances witch two of them is exactly as you ask but you don't like them. I have only 2 and I wanted not human female romance. This is why I "attack" you have 2 to 3 perfect romances you ask.

 

Solas' romance is tragic until proven otherwise :/ We are all pretty pessimistic on team Solasavellan, since he has big plans (personally this romance hit me the hardest, it's the best written romance I've ever experienced).

 

I can also comment on each of the LIs you've mentioned, but I find it pointless and will only get me upset (especially since you went out of your way to pretty much copy paste what I wrote about Blackwall and change it to fit Isabella even though their situations and crimes are ENTIRELY different).

 

I'm not entirely sure why you are trying to compete with us on that subject.

If you want, open a thread about how men get bad romances. If people feel it's true or not, it'll be shown through the comments to said thread.

I personally don't feel what you are saying, but you may be right and I may not be able to see it since I mostly play straight female characters.

 

And if you insist - to be honest, if I ever manage to bring myself to do another PT & with a male I'd pursue Cassandra because her romance seems like the best of the bunch (she is incredibly sweet on top of all things + happy ending). The reason I can barely bring myself to start a new PT is because Solas pretty much ruined the game for me (after I finished his romance in the 2nd PT). It might sound whiny, but I don't really care

 

Also, this thread is a rant about all BioWare romances, generally, for straight females, don't focus so much on DAI. The fact I got 4 options as an elf (and 2 as a dwarf - which I prefer to play) means nothing if I don't feel content with them.

 

As said, I'm not the only person here who feels this way.

[Dakota Strider]

Efvie, I believe you misunderstood my question as a statement.  I am asking how satisfactory was the storylines of the DAI straight female romance plots, up until the endings that apparently are not satisfactory?  I am curious, since I have not played a female character, nor plan to.

 

And I am saying, that for "me", the overall storyline of the Cassandra while "nice", was nothing memorable.  It was not a bad story, but I would probably rate it outside of the top 5 for Bioware romances I have played (Morrigan, Viconia, Aribeth, Jaheira, Leliana).  And the reason why her's is not as special, is that there really are no issues to deal with, besides making a shopping trip to Val Royeaux to get some candy and flowers. 

 

Cassandra, had a very satisfactory ending.  More so than many romances of companions I would rate ahead of her.  But her story is just not as compelling.

 

So, how compelling are the LI's stories of Cullen, Blackwall, Solas and Iron Bull?  Does the story make up for a less than perfect ending?   Perfection is to have a compelling, difficult story, with a happy ending, but that seems very rare.

[whitless256]

I don't necessarily want less tragedy, as long as it's good fulfilling tragedy. Having the option to choose if it ends in tragedy or with some level of happiness is good too. I just agree that it'd be nice to see others have the tragic love interest now and then. It really does seem to be heavily lumped on the female side of things. Not intentionally, I'm sure, and it's probably difficult to find the line between "too easy and boring" and "nah, watch them suffer." That line will be drawn differently by all of us, so it's not an easy task.

 

Sera was mentioned above, and while that's a good conflict I wouldn't call it tragedy. I was surprised and actually pleased that there was such a layer of complexity to the character. And... even then you can decide if the beliefs of your people mattered more than your relationship with her. It gave you a choice to play out as fits your character and your own desires. It was a nice moment for roleplaying, but not inevitable heartbreak.

 

I think you're basically hitting the point I was trying to make.  It's not the black and white issue that a lot of people are trying to make it.   It's very hard to spread the tragedy around when how we all define tragedy is so very different.  To me, having someone I love make me chose between them and my core beliefs would break my heart and result in inevitable heartbreak.  If the person I love couldn't love ALL of me, I wouldn't want to be with them, and that would be tragic and painful. 

 

In fact, I think a person's inability to love me rather than change me is more tragic than the tragedy most people are piling on the Alistair romance such as being his mistress not his wife.  I'd rather be in a politically complex love affair that is based on mutual love than a relationship where the person only wants me if I change.   So that's the point, I think, that tragic is different for all of us, so it's a hard thing to quantify and divide up evenly.

[actionhero112]

What is the problem with distributing it more evenly, if everyone likes it?

Because you're interfering with the story to fit your own personal desires? The story does not exist just for you.

 

How do you not see this as the same as people saying they want female bombshells for LIs? You both want to interfere with the artist's creative process. Please. No.

 

You act as if Gaider writes straight female LI's to break people's hearts. That he holds some kind of scale to make sure that females get the most dramatic romances. Please. That's not how writing works. 

 

If it turns out in the next game that female LI's tend to be more vanilla, it will be because it serves the character and the story, not because of what you want.

[Uirebhiril]

You act as if Gaider writes straight female LI's to break people's hearts. That he holds some kind of scale to make sure that females get the most dramatic romances. Please. That's not how writing works. 

 

 

This is amusing only because Gaider wrote love interests for males in DAI. Cassandra has a nice ending, right? What about Dorian? He was going to hang around for a bit with his BFF the Inquisitor at the end of my first playthrough. What's he do for a romance?