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[Fardreamer]

That means Kieren is the only heir to the throne right? Because the only way for the HoF to survive in that situation is to let Alistair do the Dark Ritual with Morrigan.

Kieren is the last surviving descendent of the Therin bloodline. And that's kind of a huge deal to Fereldens. Yes, he's a bastard, but so was Alistair, a half-elf bastard at that. His bloodline was enough to make him a major contender for the throne.

Seeing as it's almost impossible for two people carting the blight to conceive children, that would mean Kieren has the strongest claim to the throne, right?

[sylvanaerie]

IF they knew about him.  Morrigan has other plans for the child and isn't raising him to be an heir.

 

Spoiler

And if the HoF succeeds in her mission in Inquisition, she will be removing the Calling (taint) from her blood.

[Fardreamer]

IF they knew about him.  Morrigan has other plans for the child and isn't raising him to be an heir.
 

Spoiler

And if the HoF succeeds in her mission in Inquisition, she will be removing the Calling (taint) from her blood.

Good point, but seeing as it's already 10 years after Origins, she's probably getting close to the age of not being able to conceive children. After 35 or so, chances of successfully conceiving and carrying a child to full term go down drastically.

[Ashagar]

Considering the nobility wanted to make her father king instead of Cailan I would expect the throne would most likely go to her brother, the Couslands are the oldest house in Ferelden  and were next to royality to begin with. It seems to me the reason anyone likely serious considered Anora for the throne after Calian's death was because the Couslands, the family the nobles would have turned to were supposable all dead.

[LiquidLyrium]

Yeah but he's not been formally acknowledged as being Alistair's child, so no one knows he exists. Alistair was only able to take the throne because he was known to be Maric's bastard, and there were enough people with credibility at court who agreed to Alistair's lineage. Whoever is on the throne can also name a successor from among the arls, I believe, if there aren't any heirs produced. Or there'll be another Landsmeet when it's time to decide the matter of succession again.

[Hydwn]

I could have tested this in my worldstate because this was exactly how my DAO worldstate was set up for my first playthrough of DAI.  I was hoping to see if there was dialogue relating to it...but even though everyone else knew that the HoF was the queen, Morrigan's dialogue glitched and she thought the HoF was male and her lover

 

It wasn't an import bug.  Everyone else knew.  Maybe Morrigan's constructed an eleaborate fantasy to block out having done the deed with Alistair...?

[sylvanaerie]

Good point, but seeing as it's already 10 years after Origins, she's probably getting close to the age of not being able to conceive children. After 35 or so, chances of successfully conceiving and carrying a child to full term go down drastically.

 

Not inconceivable

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(and more possible after she gets a cure, anyway).

 

 

I think they're going with 'no heir for the throne of Ferelden' with the next generation anyway.  The Landsmeet will have to decide who will rule.  Since Fergus is alive regardless of what origin, I'm thinking the Cousland's will be the next dynasty if a peaceful solution is found.  Either that, or chaos will ensue as they fight over who rules unless Anora or Alistair name an heir.

[Leoroc]

Succession of the throne is a fickle thing. If Kieran wants it (or someone wants to prop Kieran up on it) he has a very strong claim if Alistair is his father and king, HoF is his father and Prince-Consort and if Loghain is his father and Anora is Queen. Succession is determined by the other nobles de facto, even if it is by blood de jure.

 

See:
Henry I, Stephen, Matilda, Henry IV, Edward IV, Henry VI, Henry VII, Jane, Mary I, Elizabeth I.

 

And that's just England prior to the unification of Britain.

[kaidanluv]

I could have tested this in my worldstate because this was exactly how my DAO worldstate was set up for my first playthrough of DAI.  I was hoping to see if there was dialogue relating to it...but even though everyone else knew that the HoF was the queen, Morrigan's dialogue glitched and she thought the HoF was male and her lover

 

It wasn't an import bug.  Everyone else knew.  Maybe Morrigan's constructed an eleaborate fantasy to block out having done the deed with Alistair...?

In my playthrough Morrigan glitched too, but she said something that seemed to strongly imply the HOF was dead instead of a romanced dude...I was like what? She's the queen. And alive. I had to quickly check my codex after that to make sure I had the right import world. 

 

As for the HOF's ability to conceive...I thought she was really young at the start of DA:O? Like between 18 and 20? There'd still be time if her mission succeeded, even ten years later.

[Andraste_Reborn]

I think that BIoWare is going to make sure there's no heir to the Ferelden throne no matter what you did - the only possible way for there to be one at the moment is for Alistair to do the ritual. In all other world states, there's no heir. If Anora or Alistair rule alone, they don't marry. If they rule together, they don't have a child. Same if a male Cousland has Alistair do the sacrifice and marries Anora.

 

While it would be lovely if a female Hero of Ferelden married to Alistair could cure the Calling and give Keiran a little half-sibling, I don't think it's actually going to happen. There are too many other world states where there doesn't seem to be any prospect of an heir. (I don't think it's because she's too old though - she's in her early thirties during DAI, at most. And plenty of women have babies after they turn thirty-five, anyway.)

[Nefla]

In my playthrough Morrigan glitched too, but she said something that seemed to strongly imply the HOF was dead instead of a romanced dude...I was like what? She's the queen. And alive. I had to quickly check my codex after that to make sure I had the right import world. 

 

As for the HOF's ability to conceive...I thought she was really young at the start of DA:O? Like between 18 and 20? There'd still be time if her mission succeeded, even ten years later.

All the origin stories point to that being true, with your young looking siblings all being older than you and you being an apprentice(mage), just coming of age (dwarf noble, city elf) or just generally young and inexperienced (human noble, Dalish elf). I'd estimate the warden's age in DA:I to be 28-33 which is definitel within the child bearing window, especially in a world with healing magic and such.   

[Aren]

To become King or Queen  theirin blood is needed, but is the landsmeet who can decide, and no matter what Fergus will always be a better candidate.

In your world state the both of you are grey wardens, so there isn't Anora to the throne, the both of you probably will reach the calling state.

Kieran is always a mage and a mage in southern Thedas will never become queen or king.

[blahblahblah]

 

Kieran is always a mage and a mage in southern Thedas will never become queen or king.

Vivienne can become a divine in DAI despite being a mage.

[TeraBat]

This is assuming people are forthcoming about Kieran's parentage. 

 

When you ask as Inquisitor, she never reveals to you that Kieran is Alistair's father. To get Kieran on the throne, you'd have to prove that he was fathered by Alistair, and I imagine Morrigan would fight tooth and nail against that ever happening. And even if it did - who the hell would want the bastard child of an apostate witch with some mysterious connection to Flemeth on the throne? Nawp, let's just go with Fergus and his kids, that seems like the much safer option. 

[Beomer]

I'm pretty certain Alistair will in all cases be heir-less. The just sorted out the OGB mess, I'm sure they are not going to make him the heir to Fereldan throne in some cases and bring up a big plot issue all over again for the people who had the OGB with the Warden or those who didn't have him at all.

IMO in all cases OGB or no, Alistair will have no heir and as mentioned by others, the throne will pass to the most eligible noble house. At one point that certainly was the Couslands, but the writers might well change that seeing as how there has not been any mention of Fergus remarrying or fathering another child after his wife and kid were murdered in DAO. Which means if he becomes king, there is a chance that after his death the issue of succession is going to crop up again.

[Montana]

If Leliana becomes divine and frees the mages, Connor could possibly become a candidate too.
Arl Eamon was Calians uncle, and therefoe of Therin blood. Though, I can't remeber if it was on Calians mothers side which would disqualify him.

All in all Ferelden might be in for another civil war in the future.

Might be a cool idea for DA4, civil war and politics, arguably the best parts of DA:O.

[NUM13ER]

It looks as if Ferelden will almost certainly have a succession crisis in the future. Maybe a few sequels down the line they have plans to revisit the location or have that play a role in a bigger story. The place can't catch a break that's for sure.

[Han Yolo]

I doubt Kieran will ever be king. Morrigan would be up in arms. I think they made the war table mission with Fergus Cousland available in every world state for a reason. He would be an easy choice. Or maybe the new Dragon Age will leave the southern areas and Ferelden's heir won't ever be mentioned at all. 

In my headcanon land Cousland will find a cure and Alistair shall have his heir. Screw reality.  

[Xx Serissia xX]

If Leliana becomes divine and frees the mages, Connor could possibly become a candidate too.
Arl Eamon was Calians uncle, and therefoe of Therin blood. Though, I can't remeber if it was on Calians mothers side which would disqualify him.

All in all Ferelden might be in for another civil war in the future.

Might be a cool idea for DA4, civil war and politics, arguably the best parts of DA:O.

 

Eamon was Calian's uncle because he was Rowan's brother.  His bloodline is on the mother's side.  That's why in DA2 Alistair says Teagan is sort of his uncle.  They raised him but they're not actually related by blood.

[Fullmetall21]

If Leliana becomes divine and frees the mages, Connor could possibly become a candidate too.
Arl Eamon was Calians uncle, and therefoe of Therin blood. Though, I can't remeber if it was on Calians mothers side which would disqualify him.

All in all Ferelden might be in for another civil war in the future.

Might be a cool idea for DA4, civil war and politics, arguably the best parts of DA:O.

 

Connor himself tells you that after what happened in Redcliff he could not hold a title as the heir of an arl so I think Connor as king (and a mage that had a deal with a demon of all things) is highly unlikely. The mages being free under Divine orders do not change the view of people on mages who practice(d) blood magic and the Landsmeet will have the final say as to who will be king if Alistair/Anora don't have an heir. I still believe as many others that Fergus is the most likely scenario because he is constant no matter what you did in Origins and despite your origin (there is an option to kill Connor at redcliff).

[Lady Mutare]

The Wardens keep DLC has a family that are in line of succession. 

[Montana]

Connor himself tells you that after what happened in Redcliff he could not hold a title as the heir of an arl so I think Connor as king (and a mage that had a deal with a demon of all things) is highly unlikely. The mages being free under Divine orders do not change the view of people on mages who practice(d) blood magic and the Landsmeet will have the final say as to who will be king if Alistair/Anora don't have an heir. I still believe as many others that Fergus is the most likely scenario because he is constant no matter what you did in Origins and despite your origin (there is an option to kill Connor at redcliff).

Connor can't be Arl since he's a mage.
But he's not related to Alistair by blood, so he's out anyway (thanks for the info Xutjja).

[Aren]

Vivienne can become a divine in DAI despite being a mage.

And?  king and divine are different titles  fereldan have nothing to do with Orlais.  Divine is a religious position and is not like to become king.

The landsmeet have the last words on the matter and in all fereldan history there is no mage on the throne, so i really cannot see your point. a Divine is not a queen not  an emperess.

Divine are the legacy of Andraste, Andraste was a mage again i cannot see your point.

Connor have the same problem he cannot be an Arle  Kieran cannot become nothing in fereldan.

Fergus will always be the better option especially if his  brother/sister are    queen or king of fereldan.

[blahblahblah]

And?  king and divine are different titles  fereldan have nothing to do with Orlais.  Divine is a religious position and is not like to become king.

The landsmeet have the last words on the matter and in all fereldan history there is no mage on the throne, so i really cannot see your point. a Divine is not a queen not  an emperess.

Divine are the legacy of Andraste, Andraste was a mage again i cannot see your point.

Connor have the same problem he cannot be an Arle  Kieran cannot become nothing in fereldan.

Fergus will always be the better option especially if his  brother/sister are    queen or king of fereldan.

The point is mages are not allowed to hold any title but being Divine is too far and much higher position than royalty. THE chantry itself is very hypocritical to choose Vivienne as a Divine just like Celine who is also a mage that became an empress. You forgot the fact that the Chantry itself blame every mage on why the Blight happened and the Maker left the world so why the heck they elect a mage?

[Nefla]

Only if Morrigan can prove anything, the kid looks nothing like any of his potential daddies