I might've missed something or perhaps it was addressed in the game, but why wasn't she put up for candidacy?
Why isn't Mother Giselle a divine candidate?
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Shaftell
, déc. 27 2014 07:11
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Posté 27 décembre 2014 - 07:12
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As much as i like her I see her role better in the background.
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Posté 27 décembre 2014 - 07:23
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Isn't she lower on the Chantry food chain than even the clerics that may be vying for the role?
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Posté 27 décembre 2014 - 07:36
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Isn't she lower on the Chantry food chain than even the clerics that may be vying for the role?
She's one of the few charty people doing anything. She's better then donkey punch lady in Val Royeaux.
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Posté 27 décembre 2014 - 07:49
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I ran around for hours trying to get this to happen to no avail.
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Posté 27 décembre 2014 - 07:51
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Why isn't she a romance option? 
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Posté 27 décembre 2014 - 07:53
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She's one of the few charty people doing anything. She's better then donkey punch lady in Val Royeaux.
I don't think BioWare could get away with a simple M rating if Lord Seeker Lucius actually donkey-punched that woman in front of everyone.
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Posté 27 décembre 2014 - 07:57
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I don't think BioWare could get away with a simple M rating if Lord Seeker Lucius actually donkey-punched that woman in front of everyone.
I know. I just like calling her that....the look on her face. 
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Posté 27 décembre 2014 - 07:58
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Why isn't she a romance option?
Because Wynne was not one....And dryness.
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Posté 27 décembre 2014 - 08:10
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Some people like it dry.
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#13
Posté 27 décembre 2014 - 08:20
Uhh.. Jonah
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She's too busy getting lip injections to worry about that kind of stuff
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Posté 27 décembre 2014 - 08:31
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Because Gaider or whomever wrote the Divine plot line wanted one if your companions/advisors to be Divine. No other reason.
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Posté 27 décembre 2014 - 08:38
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It's enough that she's probably the most important figure in the founding of the Inquisition.
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Posté 27 décembre 2014 - 08:41
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It's enough that she's probably the most important figure in the founding of the Inquisition.
Based on the amount of threads we get on it, it's not enough for a lot of people...
(And they're right, BTW.)
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Posté 27 décembre 2014 - 08:43
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A more interesting question would be: why can't the Quizzy be the Divine. It would be great to have the first Qunari Divine in the Chantry history.
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Posté 27 décembre 2014 - 08:43
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There actually isn't a reason for her candidacy? Hell, I think she's more capable than Cassandra. Giselle has the purity and respect without having blood on her hands like Cass or Leli. Plus she plays the motherly role real well. I think Cassandra would look ridiculous wearing that divine attire lol. There's no reason, with the backing of the Inquisition, that Giselle can't be named divine.
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Posté 27 décembre 2014 - 08:54
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Much as I'd like her as Divine, I have to admit that she probably wouldn't last 5 minutes in the ruthless world at the top. It has to be remembered that Justinia was a lady with a background that meant she was probably a lot tougher and was definitely more ruthless than would appear from the game.
Mother Giselle is just too reasonable and honest, plus some rather controversial views. Apparently the conquest of the Dales was not a true Exalted March, she good as admits it was politically rather than religiously motivated; the Chantry's teaching on magic has always been at odds with Andraste's intentions; and so on. Plus I think she would feel she can do more good out in the field helping people. She is the sort of ideal chantry mother and for that reason would never get voted for.
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Posté 27 décembre 2014 - 08:56
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There actually isn't a reason for her candidacy? Hell, I think she's more capable than Cassandra. Giselle has the purity and respect without having blood on her hands like Cass or Leli. Plus she plays the motherly role real well. I think Cassandra would look ridiculous wearing that divine attire lol. There's no reason, with the backing of the Inquisition, that Giselle can't be named divine.
You're right, and ITA. At the end of my game, I had psycho Leliana, power-hungry Vivienne, and Cassandra, who, while her heart is in the right place, is impulsive, impatient, and totally unsuited to life as a politician.
Meanwhile, Giselle just hangs out in the garden.
Makes no sense, and the only reasoning is that the writers couldn't or didn't want to give you that option.
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Posté 27 décembre 2014 - 09:01
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Much as I'd like her as Divine, I have to admit that she probably wouldn't last 5 minutes in the ruthless world at the top. It has to be remembered that Justinia was a lady with a background that meant she was probably a lot tougher and was definitely more ruthless than would appear from the game.
Mother Giselle is just too reasonable and honest, plus some rather controversial views. Apparently the conquest of the Dales was not a true Exalted March, she good as admits it was politically rather than religiously motivated; the Chantry's teaching on magic has always been at odds with Andraste's intentions; and so on. Plus I think she would feel she can do more good out in the field helping people. She is the sort of ideal chantry mother and for that reason would never get voted for.
The problem I have with that reasoning is it essentially excludes Cassandra as well. Cassandra is tough when it comes to battles, but has no idea how to play politics, and to the extent that she does, has no patience for it.
If you're going to say Giselle is too naive and idealistic, Cass is the same.
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Posté 27 décembre 2014 - 09:08
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She is the only npc I really want to get away from...and then she starts to sing (and being unable to skip the scene!! 
). What a relief when Solas comes to save me from that...uhm...so that I get someone that can have a serious talk.
Celestial teapots and stuff.
#23
Posté 27 décembre 2014 - 09:09
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The Chantry doesn't like black people.
Can you show me 1 Divine that was black? They're all white old women. It's blazing saddles all over again.
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Posté 27 décembre 2014 - 09:14
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The problem I have with that reasoning is it essentially excludes Cassandra as well. Cassandra is tough when it comes to battles, but has no idea how to play politics, and to the extent that she does, has no patience for it.
If you're going to say Giselle is too naive and idealistic, Cass is the same.
That's why you have a left hand of a divine. A leader can't do everything but people can help that leader do so.
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Posté 27 décembre 2014 - 09:48
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That's why you have a left hand of a divine. A leader can't do everything but people can help that leader do so.
You missed my point, which was that people who try to make sense out of Giselle not being a candidate usually make an argument that ends up excluding Cassandra as well.
Bottom line, there is no good reason for Giselle being excluded.
