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[C0uncil0rTev0s]

I've just finished playing the main game questline. It has ended in the way I would never 've guessed.

 

You know how it was in ME3? I was trying to bring EVERYTHING for the Victory. I've searched all the galaxy far and wide to get all assets. I've farmed multiplayer to get highest possible readyness. I've got all DLCs because I thought, you know, 'it's ALL or NOTHING' - so I took back Omega, got a living Prothean to aid the cause, and 've dealt with my very own clone. 

 

Sh*t was serious that time. I mean - really serious!

It was entire Arcturus fleet plus turian survivors plus Destiny Ascension to bring down single Souvereign. Now we have hordes of those things!

 

I think I was waiting for something of that scale here, too... A shame. 

 

Final Cut in ME3 got what we asked for - a certain END. Yes, all capitals. 

 

What did I get in Dragon Age: Inquisition, that costed me as ME3 plus Omega plus Leviathan? I got fuc*ing nothing!

 

Everything I've ever done in Dragon Age: Inquisition didn't bring an end. Every 'choice, that matters' ended up in next uncertainty in a line! What the h*ll? 

 

I've sided with Cassi when it came to electing a new Divine. She barely made a change, yet it was called 'reforms' and there people plotting a revolt already? For the Maker's Sake, WHAT?

 

I've saved Redcliffe from Tevinter slavery and got mages under control of the Inquisition. Then they got to new Circles of The Bright Hand. There they split into factions, like in the f*cking DA:O (if you start as a mage). All those 'mage-related' choices THROUGH 3 GAMES for fu*king nothing?

 

I've allowed Grey Wardens to reclaim their honour through Wartable missions in the East, and then to rebuild. Orlesian Grey Wardens broke off the HQ at Weissheupt (or however it was named), and there is 'a new enemy within their ranks'? You're kidding? AGAIN? 

 

I've helped a lot the local Dalish people. I've got a f*cking breakthrough in Dalish history with that discovery at Emerald Knights'es. Aaaand guess what the outro slideshow said about this turning point? NOTHING. 

 

I've helped Kal Sharok with those missions at Wartable. It's a brand new thaig, first in centuries, aaand..? Righty, it's nothing!

 

I've levelled lvl 23 character with best possible gear for the whole party to kill end boss in, like, 5 minutes with all the cutscenes and running around? It's more of a mockery if you ask me than the EPIC FINAL F*CKING BATTLE.

 

And what about that damned end sequence where we see our beloved Elvish Gods? Solas is Fen'Harel as it turns out (local Loki-type god), and he steals the soul of the Old God from Mythal (Flemeth)? Is this a cheap parody for a plot twist, like, see the next episode next Monday?

 

I mean, WTF, Bioware? 

I love your Mass Effect games. Totally love em. All 3. 

It was tough to get through ME3 endings, but I've found peace with myself in the great lore and genius writing of the plot ...apart from endings. I've considered that it's a great story that has ended in least possible casualties with a few logic flaws.

 

I loved DA:O. I really did. 
Tho the graphics were kinda outdated and the engine sucks balls, I loved the lore and the writing. Main plot was just good, but the recruitment parts as in Orzammar, Circle of Magi, and Bressilian Forest are damn masterpiece! 

 

I loved DA2, as it's pretty much what ME2 is. It isn't a story about great heroes and great deeds, it's a story about your companions. It's a story of friendship and mutual cooperation. I really loved Merrill as she was overhelmingly cute. Cute to the 'kawaii' point. 

Everything about characters there was good.

 

But THIS?
How did you end in this pointless, miserable parody for a main story plot? Did you fire your scenario writers after they got you the Haven part (which is, in fact, almost a summarized copy/paste from ME1, but still)? 

 

Yes, I'm mad. I was hoping for a far greater story to enjoy before New Year celebrations. I was hoping to buy a game that is actually worth the money I've paid for it... and my time, that was put into playing it. It's sort of understandable, right?

 

Please, Bioware. Get your poo*ers up and fix the damn game you gave birth. 
For now it's a freak.

[Lunatic Lace]

While I can agree that the finale was a bit disappointing in the grand scheme of things, I don't think it's fair to compare a game that was never meant to be the end of a series to a complete trilogy. Dragon Age isn't a three game set, and the end nicely sets up for any DLC and future sequels. Again, I'm not saying it isn't flawed, but it's not the end.

[C0uncil0rTev0s]

While I can agree that the finale was a bit disappointing in the grand scheme of things, I don't think it's fair to compare a game that was never meant to be the end of a series to a complete trilogy. Dragon Age isn't a three game set, and the end nicely sets up for any DLC and future sequels. Again, I'm not saying it isn't flawed, but it's not the end.

 

You sound about right. Maybe I'm asking too much?
I mean, plot making any sense, and choices throughout the series matter something - it's a bit over the head?..

[Sprenk]

I've sided with Cassi when it came to electing a new Divine. She barely made a change, yet it was called 'reforms' and there people plotting a revolt already? For the Maker's Sake, WHAT?

 

I've saved Redcliffe from Tevinter slavery and got mages under control of the Inquisition. Then they got to new Circles of The Bright Hand. There they split into factions, like in the f*cking DA:O (if you start as a mage). All those 'mage-related' choices THROUGH 3 GAMES for fu*king nothing?

 

I've allowed Grey Wardens to reclaim their honour through Wartable missions in the East, and then to rebuild. Orlesian Grey Wardens broke off the HQ at Weissheupt (or however it was named), and there is 'a new enemy within their ranks'? You're kidding? AGAIN? 

 

My sympathies. It would be nice, I suppose, to think that you made the world a better place, at least for a few years. And fact is, you did! Remember that vision of the future world you get in the Alexius/Redcliffe line? You averted that! The world of Thedas is much better off, thanks to your efforts.

 

However, the world goes on. The same underlying tensions remain. The same fault lines persist. Things won't stay "happily ever after" in Bioware's world.

 

Personally, I like their choice. However, I understand your frustration. Go save the world again in the coming DLC's and DA4.

[Lunatic Lace]

You sound about right. Maybe I'm asking too much?
I mean, plot making any sense, and choices throughout the series matter something - it's a bit over the head?..

 

I guess it really depends on what you were expecting/what you want out of the game, to be honest. I was fairly happy with a lot of the game content, even the less important side quests, and the fact that I still want more made the trip Bioware offered worth it to me. Sure, I wish that a little more of the in game content reflected in the ending, and that the final stage was a little more impressive, but I have no doubt they'll work more content in further down the line.

 

That doesn't mean that people who didn't get what they wanted or needed don't have a valuable opinion, I'm just stating what I think.

[Vox Draco]

You sound about right. Maybe I'm asking too much?
I mean, plot making any sense, and choices throughout the series matter something - it's a bit over the head?..

 

Not sure what your problem is actually ... the quoted above I see in Dragon Age ... but not in Mass Effect (like plot making sense, and choices matter...not exactly what you get in Mass Effect after ME1)

 

I prefer very much the "End" of DAI over the entire ME-Series, which maybe is the biggest dissapointing and worst story told in a game-series so far...(but hey, maybe ME4 actually rdeems all the flaws and miss-writing that occurred after ME1? One can only hope..)

[C0uncil0rTev0s]

I guess it really depends on what you were expecting/what you want out of the game, to be honest. I was fairly happy with a lot of the game content, even the less important side quests, and the fact that I still want more made the trip Bioware offered worth it to me. Sure, I wish that a little more of the in game content reflected in the ending, and that the final stage was a little more impressive, but I have no doubt they'll work more content in further down the line.

 

That doesn't mean that people who didn't get what they wanted or needed don't have a valuable opinion, I'm just stating what I think.

 

Can't deny that. I'm overreacting again, am I?
I am.

 

I's just hard to lay my expectations down that much.

[Elhanan]

And here I am thinking that Flemeth took over the body of Solas, as opposed to using Morrigan or another.

[C0uncil0rTev0s]

Nope. Same light-blue effect that was used when Mythal (Flemeth) took Old God soul from Morrigan's son.

[Deebo305]

In the words of one Hugo Strange "Did you ever stop to consider that all of this was your fault.."

You chose to coddle the mages rather get them line and thus naturally they rebelled once again, a different Divine could have stamped out the rebellion or prevented it entirely

The Grey Warden are rebuilding and being more proactive in the worlds events rather than choosing to sit idle like their leaders in the north, no issue there and the "threat" to them from within is nothing to worry about so long as the Inquisition has their back in the South

The Dalish....may they continue to prance around the forest all they like

Kal Sharok want NO ONES help, frankly they'd soon slit your throat than care about surfacer problems especially when Darkspawn are your immediate concern

The final battle...it did suck compared to Legacy but your were level 23, everything is butter and your the knife at that point

As for ending with Solas, I won't judge but any good ending is one that leave you talking abouy it and trying to figure it for weeks and I say Bioware did there job

[C0uncil0rTev0s]

In the words of one Hugo Strange "Did you ever stop to consiser that all of this was your fault.."

You chose to coddle the mages rather get them line and thus naturally they rebelled once again, a different Divine could have stamped out the rebellion or prevented it entirely

The Grey Warden are rebuilding and being more proactive in the worlds events rather than choosing to sit idle like their leaders in the north, no issue there and the "threat" to them from within is nothing to worry about so long as the Inquisition has their back in the South

The Dalish....may they continue to prance around the forest all they like

Kal Sharok want NO ONES help, frankly they'd soon sli your throat than care about surfacer problems especially when Darkspawn are your immediate concern

The final battle...it did suck compared to Legacy but your were level 23, everything in butter and your the knife at that point

As for ending with Solas, I won't judge but any good ending is one that leave you talking abouy it and trying to figure it for weeks and I say Bioware did there job

 

Quite easy to see if that's my fault. I'm starting another playthrough as male human noble...

[Sartoz]

While I can agree that the finale was a bit disappointing in the grand scheme of things, I don't think it's fair to compare a game that was never meant to be the end of a series to a complete trilogy. Dragon Age isn't a three game set, and the end nicely sets up for any DLC and future sequels. Again, I'm not saying it isn't flawed, but it's not the end.

Haven't completed the game, but the OP is right in the sense, that we deserve, after all the PR about choices and consequences, some form of an EPIC ending. 

[Vilegrim]

My sympathies. It would be nice, I suppose, to think that you made the world a better place, at least for a few years. And fact is, you did! Remember that vision of the future world you get in the Alexius/Redcliffe line? You averted that! The world of Thedas is much better off, thanks to your efforts.

However, the world goes on. The same underlying tensions remain. The same fault lines persist. Things won't stay "happily ever after" in Bioware's world.

Personally, I like their choice. However, I understand your frustration. Go save the world again in the coming DLC's and DA4.

With some of the ending slides I got a touch of the arrrggghh why don't I just end this world? Now THAT would be an awesome game.

[Shades of Night]

As mentioned, some of those outcomes depend entirely on your choices.

 

My first playthrough I had Leliana as Divine, this resulted in the Circles being disbanded (I think with academies for mages to learn in?) and thus possibly no future mage conflicts.

 

Hmm, I think a lot of the endings kinda round out to the same thing though? Because as mentioned although the mages are free in mine I think there was still some tension. Although I exiled the Wardens there was the same trouble brewing back at their big main base.

 

 I also got the Alienages taken down and elves given more freedom by picking Briala and Gaspard, and a Dalish if they choose right for war table missions can end up with their clan co-ruling Wycome, a city in the Free Marches (can't recall if that was mentioned in the end slides). So there can be a bit of variety in terms of the outcomes.

 

I'm hoping that end bit with Flemeth and Solas is just paving the way for a future Expansion or DLC.

[Dakota Strider]

The game felt like it needed to pause after Haven.  If they would have done that, polished up the loose ends up to that point, and then said "TO BE CONTINUED", and then do DLI part 2 next November, I think they may have been able to finish story lines that they obviously rushed, or just plain left hanging.  I would have much rather bought two smaller games, that were complete, and made sense, rather than one big game that just felt hollow. 

[Feranel]

ME3 was the end of a trilogy.

 

This is just the third story in a series for Dragon Age.

 

There are still old gods.

 

There are still the Dark Spawn.

 

There are still the Elven Gods.

 

There is still a lot to be told.

[C0uncil0rTev0s]

The game felt like it needed to pause after Haven.  If they would have done that, polished up the loose ends up to that point, and then said "TO BE CONTINUED", and then do DLI part 2 next November, I think they may have been able to finish story lines that they obviously rushed, or just plain left hanging.  I would have much rather bought two smaller games, that were complete, and made sense, rather than one big game that just felt hollow. 

Same here. It isn't much we ask, right?
I mean an AAA game DA:I tries to be has to have such a thing?

[outlaw1109]

Personally, I agree with what someone else said about ME's story flaws.

Didn't have an issue with the way DAI ended.  Glad it didn't have a "red, green, or blue" type final choice.  I think they didn't put a "concrete" end to things because...uh...it isn't the end.  It feels like my inquisitors have many more adventures to take part in.  Regardless of whether or not they actually do, I like it when my protagonist doesn't die at the end.

Maybe something could be done to increase the difficulty of the final fight, but it was still pretty epic.  Look at the final fight in DAO.  Comparitively speaking, the atmosphere was very well done.

Personally, I'm glad BW is doing something different.