Morrigan is a cow, Leliana is a zealot, Merrill is an idiot, Isabela is a ****, Cassandra looks like a dude and Josephine is boring.
The same tune is played every game. All that changes are the words.
And this reveals more about YOUR issues with women than anything that is allegedly wrong with the game or the characters.
Morrigan is a cow, Leliana is a zealot, Merrill is an idiot, Isabela is a ****, Cassandra looks like a dude and Josephine is boring.
The same tune is played every game. All that changes are the words.
Something something circle of life, something something. Though, to be fair, "boring" is not used that often. Blackwall and Sebastian probably hold their respective crowns for that one. XD
No, Sebastian was a zealot and "not a real romance (no sex scene)." Actually, the latter is probably the better descriptor for Josie.
And this reveals more about YOUR issues with women than anything that is allegedly wrong with the game or the characters.
No, the map says the point was back there! If we'd asked for directions, we wouldn't have missed it!
Ofc. You know how many of those "typical lesbians" are on tumblr? This isn't news.
Im pretty sure most of those arent really.
Something something circle of life, something something. Though, to be fair, "boring" is not used that often. Blackwall and Sebastian probably hold their respective crowns for that one. XD
No, Sebastian was a zealot and "not a real romance (no sex scene)." Actually, the latter is probably the better descriptor.
Eh, he really wasn't a real romance. He didn't even have a consolation scene after Leandra's death, while he would have been perfect for it.
Eh, he really wasn't a real romance. He didn't even have a consolation scene after Leandra's death, while he would have been perfect for it.
This. I wouldn't have needed a sex scene with Sebastian, but some kind of comfort after Leandra would have been ideal, especially since he was the one with 'faith' in the prevailing religion of the city. But Bioware hasn't impressed me much with the way death is handled in their games so far. Making Leliana and Cassandra (and other npcs) react to Justinia's death with loss of faith, grief, anger was a step in the right direction,
Sebastian's all kind of troubled anyway.
[Scothaven accent] Kill this man or I swarr to you that I'll destroy this city n everyone innit! [/Scothaven accent]
Sebastian's all kind of troubled anyway.
[Scothaven accent] Kill this man or I swarr to you that I'll destroy this city n everyone innit! [/Scothaven accent]
I thought all the romancable people in this game were messed up people. I thought Fenris was the least troublesome, because at least on his case trouble found him, rather then starting it himself, wich was the case for most companions.
Sneaking people into Jacob's domain. Heavy risk...
but the priiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiize...
where he begomes an essential factor in the plotafter ignoring him at every turn
.....the joys of seeing men and women alike discussing fictional romance so passionately.
There's a reason why fanfic/deviantart exist.. ya know...
This is the problem with the entire game. Hawke has 10 years of time spent with these characters and we play 3 of them. Most of what happens is in time skips. Skipping the first year in Kirkwall was a huge mistake, especially.
Agreed, with the way it was set up I feel like they set up for it you being able to play it, but then they cut it out which is disappointing.
i dunno, this is a role playing game, right? just pretend. problem solved. Dark Helmet does this all the time, with awesome results
Sure, lots of things are more deplorable, like raping puppies, or setting orphans on fire to keep warm. It doesn't mean that it's something that the writing team should even consider worth including just to cater to some random weirdos that comprise a portion of their user base. Aside from the entire team probably not liking this sort of thing at all, the amount of criticism that they would most likely get would probably greatly outweigh any real benefit from adding this.
As for crafting your own experience, why would you limit this to something silly like incest? Why can't I make the entire team take part in a massive orgy?
But surely you aren't suggesting raping puppies or setting orphans on fire is anywhere near comparable than a consenting relationship between two adults? Like other relationships it would in theory be entirely optional. Also who said it should be limited to anything? I'm not in favor of limiting options based personally on what i think is weird. I would really like to see them expand on the types of relationships they include beyond limiting it to the disproportionate LGBT stuff in every game they release. I'm in favor as many different unique avenues possible for the player to explore. P.S.an orgy with multiple group members was already possible in DAO
^ Fair enough. relationships really haven't evolved much in bioware games. It's always the exact same structure..
Well the lesbian options are Isabela and Merrill. I actually thought they were both well written.
I've never played as a straight male on any DA game, though my ME2 game my Shep was a bit lonely. I think it's a fun aspect to the game, but not the end all be all. I like more complicated characters.
Are there straight men wanting a dishrag woman in distress to save? Just curious, if you don't like your options...what did you want? I'm not too into me Iron Bull you Jane, but it's an option in Inquisition.
Before I got married I dated a bunch of different types of girls, I guess in role playing games I don't want to date the typical sorority girl. I did it in life, didn't marry them either.
In RPG world an insecure Dalish Mage is fun for me, as is a slutty pirate wench who ends up falling for my character...because she is programmed 2.
I hear the complaint often. What is it that straight men want in their fantasy role play? In DA2 we have the option of the same girls, I liked them you didn't.
What is it that the preponderance of straight men want? I know it doesn't represent everyone, but is there some kind of consensus?
I wish I could have romanced Cassandra because she was an interesting character, but she was straight. It makes me a bit sad that people she was designed to be a RPG romance for don't want her...we have all seen creepy skull guy...wtf?
I guess the rules of the game are just kind of arbitrary as people. It never bothered me, even though I spent ME 1 and 2 without a gf because I didn't like Liara.
But surely you aren't suggesting raping puppies or setting orphans on fire is anywhere near comparable than a consenting relationship between two adults? Like other relationships it would in theory be entirely optional. Also who said it should be limited to anything? I'm not in favor of limiting options based personally on what i think is weird. I would really like to see them expand on the types of relationships they include beyond limiting it to the disproportionate LGBT stuff in every game they release. I'm in favor as many different unique avenues possible for the player to explore. P.S.an orgy with multiple group members was already possible in DAO
Lol. I forgot about the bug after the jealous triggers. Didn't get an orgy, but you could be sleeping with 3 or the 4 romancable characters. I forgot about that. It was hysterical. Thx for my Warden flashback. Man that game had some fun stuff in it.
I'm not sure dramatic relationships (i.e. ones in books, films, games etc) are always meant to be "yes, this is a good and sensible choice for who to spend the rest of my days with", really? I mean, obviously there are examples where the "passion and drama" is more "creepy obsessive weirdo meets person too impressed by their nice bottom/fancy car/commitment to radical politics to notice the creepy weirdo part"* but I suspect there wouldn't be threads thousands of pages long about a love interest whose romance culminates in organising a mortgage and a trip to the Hightown Haberdashery to pick out curtain material. Okay, Alistair in DAO is the closest to a Normal Person, and he's very popular (I'm a big fan myself) but even for the Warden who gets to marry him, well, becoming Queen Consort at the end of a civil war and only surviving ending the Blight by convincing your only-recently-deflowered boyfriend to impregnate your loony witch friend (again, big fan of her, too) with an Old God Baby isn't exactly a recipe for fun, fluffy settling down...
Also, while obviously people get to pick who they have relationships with and you get to not want to be with someone for any reason including "they breathe funny" or whatever, being mentally ill/exhibiting signs of trauma isn't necessarily a red flag and lots of mentally ill people are in relationships and are good partners, as much as any other person, anyway (speaking as someone who was emotionally abused by my first long-term boyfriend who is a Normal, Healthy Man (while I am mentally ill, have a developmental disorder *and* am physically disabled - although he still (over a decade later) refuses to accept this part is true - which he variously used as reasons why he was a Saint for Putting Up With Me because I was a disgusting lazy freak)). Mind you, when Anders starts going totally bonkers towards the end, a responsible lover, or friend (I tend to see the 'friend/rival' label as the *type* of friendship, not whether they're friends or not - someone who's still around the middle is maybe still just this guy you see sometimes, someone at either end who still talks to you is a friend, IYSWIM) would help him to find someone who could help him, not go 'oh, we've been collecting weird ingredients, I guess I shouldn't look into whether they might be components for explosives or anything... sure, I'll help you sneak around the Chantry'.
I haven't romanced Isabela or Merrill yet, but I think they and Fenris (probably not Anders, really) have potential for long term relationshipness, no, they're probably none of them curtains and mortgage material but *neither is Hawke*. Imagine Hawke marrying some tedious noble who initially finds their adventurous ways charming, but quickly turns to embarrassment and gradually scorn when it becomes plain Hawke's still going to be going down the Hanged Man to drink with Varric (okay, in a world where they don't all have to disappear after the end of the game) and teaching that weird elf to read and helping that other weird elf try to find a safer relic of her people to restore, I mean, at least the Guard Captain's a good influence, but she's still a Fereldan...
*examples: Christian Gray (50 Shades) - not for the BDSM, but the manipulative stalker part; Edward Cullen (Twilight) - not for the vampire thing but the manipulative stalker part, Anders - not for the... you get the idea. Okay, the vampire and mass-slaughterer-of-innocents-sort-of-abomination parts, too
Hmm let's see. Won't seperate them as male and female because of bi's.
We have Isabela who slept with half of the Ferelden. Merrill who is a socially awkward penguin or let's say she simply acts like 6 year olds. Fenris who is basically emokid. Anders the sneaky terrorist who also lost his joy to live. Sebastian who is a zealot.
So nobody is "right" for my male or female Hawke. I tend to lean towards to Isabela as male/female Hawke just because her character is more fun, not that she's a good choice.
If Aveline and/or Varric was availible at romance it'd be great because only these two can be categorised as more "normal" than other freaks. Ehh even Bethany/Carver incest makes more sense than sleeping with some guy who has another spirit inside.
PS: I think i'm getting old 
PS 2: I hate Carver.
Just as a general statement.
Romance often sucks for male gamers in real life.
Maybe the guy wanted wider choice of women and a perfect vanilla romance with the male-only exclusive perfect girl. Sound familiar?
I just remembered something in DA2 that I found odd yet hlarious that actually relates to this. At one point when you go to the Dalish camp, you will talk to this elf:
http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Variel
It's been a long time, so I could be wrong, but I recall being dropped into the conversation automatically rather than walking up and talking to her. What's noticble is that, in my opinion, she look more attractive and certainly less freakish than the rest of DA2's elves. Male Hawke, if not also female Hawke, can flirt with her, but she will reject being with a human (which might be another poke in the eye to those upset about being forced to play as a human.)
But why is this there? I like the idea that the reason it's there is actually what I just said. To be an attractive looking character that you want to flirt with who will just reject you. If that's true, I do have to give this game some credit. Not enough to make up for how bad the story was, but some.
Op....All of the da games romance are ether crazy or disturbed in one way or the other. You can say the same thing with the li of DAO,da2 and dai.
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