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Protagonist Getting Saved At The Beginning Of All DA Games?


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It seems Elven gods save the protagonists at the beginning of all DA games. Flemeth (Mythal) saves The warden and Hawke and Solas (Fen'harel) saves the Inquisitor because the mark was going to kill him/her. Corypheus tells you he is surprised you have survived after getting the mark at "Your heart shall burn" quest.

 

There seems to be an angle here, the elven gods are pulling the strings of the fate of the world.

 

 



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Well if the Maker is going to sit around and do nothing, Someone has to help us hapless Mortals.



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you weren't saved by an elven "god" in DA:I, it was luck/providence you survived


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you weren't saved by an elven "god" in DA:I, it was luck/providence you survived

 

People are going nuts with these unfounded elven god theories. Better that than "my LI is better than yours". A little evidence or proof wouldn't hurt though.



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No elven god saved me. I was saved by the Divine.

 

And I'm converting.



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you weren't saved by an elven "god" in DA:I, it was luck/providence you survived

 

Solas keeps the mark from killing you. Getting the mark and surviving the explosion was luck but he allowed you to survive after getting the mark. Otherwise we would never have woke up. 


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It wasn't the Divine. It was a spirit of Faith.


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@ Lulupab

 

Please don't make me hate Solas. He's my favorite DA:I companion after Cassandra. Please don't ruin him for me.



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One might wonder "how" it just so happens that you walked in on "the guy Solas gave the orb to".

 

"Is it fate, or change, I can never decide."  - Flemeth

 

@TheDarkKnightReturns:  I would question how anyone not "Pro-Deity" or at least "Pro-Elven Deity" could possibly like Solas.



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A spirit and an Elven god is responsible for the protagonist surviving.

 

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One might wonder "how" it just so happens that you walked in on "the guy Solas gave the orb to".

 

"Is it fate, or change, I can never decide."  - Flemeth

Heroic bad timing.



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It wasn't the Divine. It was a spirit of Faith.

 

Stop ruining my life. You have any idea how annoying it is to have a crisis of faith?

Even after finishing the game my Inquisitor remained confused.


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Please don't make me hate Solas. He's my favorite DA:I companion after Cassandra. Please don't ruin him for me.

 

How am I ruining him? He stood by the Inquisitor while he was unconscious and kept the mark from killing him. How did you people missed these dialogues... You can even thank Solas for saving your life.


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Solas keeps the mark from killing you. Getting the mark and surviving the explosion was luck but he allowed you to survive after getting the mark. Otherwise we would never have woke up. 

 

It was in his interest to keep you alive after the major screw up. He stuck around to guide you into fixing his mess.



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Solas keeps the mark from killing you. Getting the mark and surviving the explosion was luck but he allowed you to survive after getting the mark. Otherwise we would never have woke up. 

still not quite the same as Flemeth coming in via dragon to save you and Alistair.

 

You got the Anchor and survived the explosion wholly independent of elven influence


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It seems Elven gods save the protagonists at the beginning of all DA games. Flemeth (Mythal) saves The warden and Hawke and Solas (Fen'harel) saves the Inquisitor because the mark was going to kill him/her. Corypheus tells you he is surprised you have survived after getting the mark at "Your heart shall burn" quest.

 

There seems to be an angle here, the elven gods are pulling the strings of the fate of the world.

 

*checks to make sure this isn't the no spoilers forum*

 

The Inquisitor wouldn't have NEEDED saving if Solas hadn't given Cory the orb in the first place.  Not feeling too grateful or like there's a well-thought-out scheme (much as I like him).  :rolleyes:



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Stop ruining my life. You have any idea how annoying it is to have a crisis of faith?

Even after finishing the game my Inquisitor remained confused.

 

Mine didn't. It was a spirit of Faith. Elven gods exist. Andraste might have been bound to an Elven god or the vessel for Dumat. That doesn't change the fact it was all the Maker's will.



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It was in his interest to keep you alive after the major screw up. He stuck around to guide you into fixing his mess.

 

aka pulling the strings

 

still not quite the same as Flemeth coming in via dragon to save you and Alistair.

 

You got the Anchor and survived the explosion wholly independent of elven influence

 

Yes its not quite the same as dragons but still, he saves the inquisitor's life and saves the Inquisition itself by leading it to skyhold. Not to mention its his mess, whether intentional or no he gave Corypheus the orb so he is fixing his own mess. So now he is pulling the strings.

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It seems Elven gods save the protagonists at the beginning of all DA games. Flemeth (Mythal) saves The warden and Hawke and Solas (Fen'harel) saves the Inquisitor because the mark was going to kill him/her. Corypheus tells you he is surprised you have survived after getting the mark at "Your heart shall burn" quest.

 

There seems to be an angle here, the elven gods are pulling the strings of the fate of the world.

 

Despicable as they may turn out to be, the fact that the Andrastian/Maker garbage has little if any proof gives me hope.



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Despicable as they may turn out to be, the fact that the Andrastian garbage is losing more and more ground gives me hope.

there is nothing in the game that remotely disproves the Maker or Andraste as his bride

 

in stark contrast to learning that the elven gods were a bunch of blood thirsty and vindictive arseholes, even their divinity is open for debate, Solas and Morrigan both don't believe they were actually "gods".  And I think Solas would know


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Edited before your reply.



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Edited before your reply.

still you don't seem to get the idea of Andrastianism, the Maker isn't going to be making his presence known to the world through his actions.  As Mother Giselle tells us, he is much more subtle.

 

He can literally do absolutely nothing, and it is perfectly in line with Andrastian teaching.



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It speaks volumes that Fen'Harel himself is capable of believing in the Maker.


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It speaks volumes that Fen'Harel himself is capable of believing in the Maker.

He's probably had enough experience with insecure "gods" trying to prove their divinity that he prefers one who just kind of abides.



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still you don't seem to get the idea of Andrastianism, the Maker isn't going to be making his presence known to the world through his actions.  As Mother Giselle tells us, he is much more subtle.

 

He can literally do absolutely nothing, and it is perfectly in line with Andrastian teaching.

 

Oh I get it; he's the flying spaghetti monster or the invisible unicorn, at least for the time being.

 

While the Dalish faith actually has tangible evidence; the Dalish are at least partially correct in creator existence while the Chantry seemingly barks at the sun. C'est beau.


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