can we give the conclusion that DAI is bad as DA2?
#1
Posté 28 décembre 2014 - 05:35
DAI win at more maps variety, graphics, maybe characters, content but as DRAGON AGE there are lot of things better made in DA2..
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#4
Posté 28 décembre 2014 - 06:02
I think that DAI is exactly as bad as DA2, i.e. not bad at all
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But then, I am a weirdo who played DA2 eight times, so I guess my opinion doesn't count for much. I would have to say that DAI seems to have been better received by non-me people, although of course there are still people that hate it. So far I love both games.
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#6
Posté 28 décembre 2014 - 06:10
No.
Although I thought most of the companions were crap. Apart from Solas, Blackwall and Varric, I didn't find the rest remotely that interesting, their dialogue ranged from cringe-worthy (Iron Bull, Cassandra and Sera) to annoying (Cole, Sera and Vivienne) and don't get me started on all the companion dialogue and scenes that were simply fan service.
Other than that, it's a much better game with better gameplay, a better main story, better exploration, better customization and better role-playing.
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#7
Posté 28 décembre 2014 - 06:22
No.
Although I thought most of the companions were crap. Apart from Solas, Blackwall and Varric, I didn't find the rest remotely that interesting, their dialogue ranged from cringe-worthy (Iron Bull, Cassandra and Sera) to annoying (Cole, Sera and Vivienne) and don't get me started on all the companion dialogue and scenes that were simply fan service.
Other than that, it's a much better game with better gameplay, a better main story, better exploration, better customization and better role-playing.
Better gameplay - maybe
Bettet main story - i thing if we compare both, they are different but I put it a the same level, one is a generic "save the world" and the other is more an internal situation
Better costumization - only ability to craft weapons and Armor, but the tactics, skill stuff talking about terms of gameplay isn't
Better role playing - I don't think so
#9
Posté 28 décembre 2014 - 06:27
You can. I'm sure many people will disagree with you, but yes you're allowed to voice your opinion.
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#10
Posté 28 décembre 2014 - 06:40
#11
Posté 28 décembre 2014 - 07:37
I would say the games are of equal quality for the most part.
DA2 was too much stuffed into too little. DA:I is too little spread across too much.
Now, whether either of those games are "Bad" is up for debate. I like both games quite a bit, despite whatever flaws may exist.
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#13
Posté 28 décembre 2014 - 08:04
A bit harsh on DA2 for my part. I would have said 6; played through to end 5 times and...enjoyed, but did not love it.DAO: 8/10
DA2: 4/10
DAI: 9/10
Might have pushed Origins to an 8.5 and haven't yet finished Inquisition, but am loving it so far and have no objections to the score given.
#14
Posté 28 décembre 2014 - 08:06
Now this is just lazy trolling... Don't you trolls have standards any more?
The forums have been lacking in quality trolls for a while...maybe they're all playing and enjoying DA:I?
#15
Posté 28 décembre 2014 - 08:14
Now...can we give the conclusion that Baldurs Gate 2 beats all of these games?
Seriously though ... if you don't like DAI, that's okay, expressing your dissapointment, it's okay. Creating threads for all these hurt feelings, it's okay. If it helps you to get over a video-game, it's okay. It's okay ...
Just relax...and if you feel like, maybe the anger or frustration and hatred against Bioware for not creating the new perfect RPG that fullfills your every dreams is again taking over...it's okay:

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#16
Posté 28 décembre 2014 - 09:37
That's it
DAI win at more maps variety, graphics, maybe characters, content but as DRAGON AGE there are lot of things better made in DA2..
True I liked the combat in Dragin Age 2 and found it was only missing a real time dodge for the Warrior class and the armors for warriors where real akward looking on Hawke. Like they didn't fit. I beat the game twice as a rogue then blew thru it on normal as a warrior and didn't have as much fun. Its cool that dodging has a short cooldown so you cant spam dodge roll like in every game that has a dodge roll function. Thinking in terms of PVP (The current system would need some major additions and a little tweaking) that cooldown realy balances things out. In Dark SOuls you got really good a parying or timing dodges and fights where never toe to toe battles like some of the fights in Dragon Age (if you have block and slice or Shield Wall especially because shield wall takes up little to no stamina and you can really make use of it especially when mapped to the R1 button that way you can turn and strafe.
I liked how in DA2 you started to sprint when weapons where drawn. Even if you're carrying a greatsword its not a Buster Sword, or Giant Crypt Sword from Dark Souls (and rogues should move quicker anyway yet you slow down and have to wait for the gap closing abilities to become available. Holdng down X or A to sprint or charge would of been real cool. Having a rogues default stance with weapons drawn (dagges or Bows) should be a low profile type stance while you creep around the battlefield. I was really hoping for something like having to buy arrows for your quiver (But making them cheap and placing them all over the place also allowing you to forge your own). That way they could be stronger and instead of just continuously attacking you're forcd to hit specific parts of an enemy if they are fully armored. Headshots on humanoids would be one hit kills BUT you don't zoom in and you will automatically misfire if hit while firing you're bow (allowing for a skill that lets you stand tough and hold your aim as long as you aren't hit too hard or something.
So much could of been done to make the combat amazing. In the Dawn of the Seeker, (SPOILERS) if you haven't seen it
Cassandra jumps on the back of a dragon multiple times and pulls a special dagger out to slice open a weak spot, killing the dragon almost instantly. Shadow of Mordor showed that combining AC2 stealth (with an actual ability to crouch plus the badass bow, the open world sandbox and design of Arkham City, the combat from the Arkham games but much more satisfying. even in the last few chapters of that game I still wondered if id even seem a particular execution or move Talion would pull off. Obviously I had but still the abundance of animations and frequency in which they are shown keeps combat fun. Also you get to dismember Orcs, and batman mearly beat them down with ridiculous moves that where sometimes laughable instead of brutal to the point of "Holy jesus he fucked that orc up". IM ARRIVNG AT A POINT. Then the progression and abilities/skills unlocks similar to Arkam games. Thn the sweet Nemesis system that worked like a dream on the PS4. That original Idea was the core of the game and instead of trying to reinvent something like the wheel or a perfect combat system for a hack N slash beat em up stealth game, they borrow or copy the same code from other games (Arkham and Shadow both under the Warner Brothers so that's why the same code is in two different games I think... don't quote me). MY POINT IS, simply copying another game when building a certain element or mechanic around a very original idea that could of failed and never seen again. Dragons Dogma didt do too horribly but it didt do good enough for anyone to take it seriously and the funnest part about that game is more "Next Gen" then attacking giants and killing them by beating their ankle to death. Id except beating their ankles till they fall then stabbing the **** out of their face or a system that allows you to get close to spots seemingly unreachable like the top of a dragons head, and then cue Gandalf vs. Balrog type action scene. Now real time events just a system that made you keep ur balance and attack without getting thrown off.
Sorry I ranted. My bad. Ill work on my language an quality of writing. Im actuall a good writer but I rush these posts cuz im often doing something I wat to ge back to so don't hate.
#17
Posté 28 décembre 2014 - 10:20
DA2 was too much stuffed into too little. DA:I is too little spread across too much.
That's a pretty good summary I'd say.
I'd score em (on a proper /10 scale, not a game press 7-10 scale):
DAO 8/10
DA2 6/10
DAI 6/10
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#19
Posté 28 décembre 2014 - 10:49
Every game is bad until the sequel comes out.
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#20
Posté 28 décembre 2014 - 10:50
DAO: 8/10
DA2: 4/10
DAI: 9/10
Although I will say I enjoyed the dialogue a lot in DA2. But that was all sarcastic Hawke and the fact that there was VO at all.
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#21
Posté 28 décembre 2014 - 11:41
That depends on the "we" part. In the words of Franklin:

I don't want no part of your tight ass hate club, ya freak b*****!
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#22
Posté 28 décembre 2014 - 11:49
That's a pretty good summary I'd say.
I'd score em (on a proper /10 scale, not a game press 7-10 scale):
DAO 8/10
DA2 6/10
DAI 6/10
Those scores fit exact with my opinion, well maybe i can give DAO an 8.5
To the people claiming im troll, im not, i only didn't want to write lot of things, i almost did it but regret to do it ![]()
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#24
Posté 29 décembre 2014 - 12:20
I think we can safely give the conclusion at this point that no other DA game will be as good as Origins and that Inquisition is the new standard for future sequels.
Well for the moment, if the market trend stays as it is, then you are absolutely right.
#25
Posté 29 décembre 2014 - 12:52
Those scores fit exact with my opinion, well maybe i can give DAO an 8.5
To the people claiming im troll, im not, i only didn't want to write lot of things, i almost did it but regret to do it
The main issue here is that your title sounds like you're trying to speak for the community as a whole.
A lot of us didn't think DA:I or even DA2 was all that bad, and some of us don't think that Origins was the best Dragon Age game ever.
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