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[Lumaan]

DAO: 8/10
DA2: 4/10
DAI: 9/10

Kinda what I'm feeling atm 60+ hours in to DAI

[Zippy72]

Nope, sorry! Don't agree. The problems in da2 impacted my enjoyment of that title far greater than the problems in da:i. 

[Lianaar]

DAO: 6/10
DA2: 9/10
DAI: 8/10

[Serenade]

What conclusion? The conclusion of this forum? You mean the consensus? I don't see this being very unanimously at all. I don't like to rate games because it can give a false impression, but personally I don't find DAI to be just as bad as DA2, I don't find DA2 to be a 'bad' game either.

[Dabrikishaw]

DAO: 9/10

DA2: 6/10

DAI: 9/10

[DameMagpie]

someday a company will make a game that does not require input or investment, people who write these threads will become blissful just over the jewel case. 

 

when I first read this forum I thought people had issues with the open world direction, as if what was must be always and forever, but somewhat a valid view. I am beginning to think of the plant in Little Shop of Horrors moaning "FEED ME"

[frankf43]

You can.  I'm sure many people will disagree with you, but yes you're allowed to voice your opinion.  

 

Not when using 'The Royal We.' When someone uses that they presume to be talking for everybody and that is never the case.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Similarly, I find it very interesting how much we both like DAI. But then I always thought - ever since I played DAO - that a similar game with PC VO would be great. Little did I know that Bioware would also add in many of my favourite elements from BG1.

DAI finally proves the voice concept. Based on DA2 and ME, I was nearly convinced that a voiced protagonist could never work for me. But DAI's voice does not impede me.

The paraphrase is still a problem, but a mich smaller one than before, and all those BG1 features you mentioned give me a lot more chances to roleplay my character in between the conconversations.

DA2 beat me over the head with the bad paraphrasing. DAI both improved the paraphrasing, and made it much less important.

And since we're chatting, I should add that I could never have appreciated how right you were about cutscenes until DAI removed the cutscene camera for most NPC interactions. I still like it when the action requires models to move in ways not readily available to the engine or when the emotional weight of a scene could benefit from cinematography but I'm now indifferent to it for the vast majority of RP content.

When DAO came out, I had just finished my most complete playthrough of NWN. My first impression of DAO was based almost entirely on comparing it to NWN. So I found the inventory extremely frustrating, and the constant cinematics kept pulling me out of the game.

[AshesEleven]

Not when using 'The Royal We.' When someone uses that they presume to be talking for everybody and that is never the case.

 

There seems to be this notion among people that your opinion isn't valid if it isn't shared by everyone, so they like to make it seem as if everyone holds the opinion.  It's strange.  

[EngineerEd]

My opinion:

 

DAO: 9/10

DA2: 7/10

DAI: 8/10

 

DAI needed better characters/story, and like, half as much fetch questing to advance the story (so... twice as much exp/loot/power gain from side quests basically). The gameplay is definitely the most exciting of the series, although maybe not as complex as DAO when you consider mage gameplay or rogues who specialize in setting up traps. 

[LostInReverie19]

They both have their strengths and weaknesses. That said, I prefer DA2 over DA:I. DA:I is still a decent game though. It's not amazing, but it's better than Skyrim, Kingdoms of Amalur, etc. Probably not better than either Witcher game. 

 

Origins is the original (lol) and the best though. 

 

DA:O - 9.5 / 10

DA2 - 8.5 / 10

DA:I - 7 / 10 

[ApocAlypsE007]

This game is terribad.... until a sequel comes out and BSN starts rating DA:I as legendary. This is how it goes here.

[In Exile]

They both have their strengths and weaknesses. That said, I prefer DA2 over DA:I. DA:I is still a decent game though. It's not amazing, but it's better than Skyrim, Kingdoms of Amalur, etc. Probably not better than either Witcher game.

Origins is the original (lol) and the best though.

I'm honestly curious what you like in games if you think DAO> TW2/TW1 >DA2 > DAI > Skyrim. Is it the dialogue?

[Dreamer]

There seems to be this notion among people that your opinion isn't valid if it isn't shared by everyone, so they like to make it seem as if everyone holds the opinion.  It's strange.  

 

It's because no one thinks an opinion is valid anymore unless it has popularity behind it. How many times have we been subjected to the "you're only a small minority of vocal angry people" argument?

[Zjarcal]

DAO: 8/10
DA2: 4/10
DAI: 9/10

Pissballs, I wasn't expecting Sylvius to have liked DAI that much, that's mucho interesante, heh.

You could give that conclusion, but a lot of people here would disagree with you.
 
I'd rate it as being just as good as Origins, but not for the same reasons.

Same, there are some aspects of DAO I like more and some I like more in DAI. Overall I rate em on part and far above DA2 (which I do like though).

[Ravenfeeder]

OK, if were doing scores:

DAO: 9/10

DA2: 4/10

DAI: 8/10

[wrdnshprd]

DAI has the worst combat of the series IMO because of the clunky tactics mode and action oriented combat.. if they wanted to go the action route.. they should have just told us that from the get go and made the game more like mordor or arkham.  instead we have a setup that tries to do both action and tactics and only executes partly.. its not unplayable, but its certainly a step back from the other games in the series...

 

 

that being said, the actual story and quests i though were done quite well, but that is also subjective.. just comes down to preference..

 

in the end, the game isnt as bad as some are making it out to be.. but its not without its flaws.

[Dreamer]

And yet, I just finished playing DA:I for like 5 and a half hours seems to play just fine.

 

Does that invalidate the player's experience?

[wolfhowwl]

It's as bad as Mass Effect 1.

[Giantdeathrobot]

No we can't.

[CronoDragoon]

Does that invalidate the player's experience?

 

Yes. Unplayable isn't an opinion.

[Dreamer]

Or, could it be that it boils down to opinion? Something every single person on the planet has yet, somehow we always end up with people that somehow think they know better and feel entitled to speak for other people. As in "can we make the conclusion DA:I sucks add nauseam".

 

We know it's an opinion.

 

Yes. Unplayable isn't an opinion.

 

Who said anything about it being an opinion? If the player found it unplayable, it was unplayable. You can disagree all you want--and claim your game experience was perfect--but that does NOT invalidate the other player's experience.

 

Perhaps next time he should specify. As in "I find this game to be unplayable".

 

It's sort of obvious that the player found the game to be unplayable. They said as much. But then you wouldn't be able to come in here, dripping with snark, and mischaracterize the poster's message as extreme.