Who said anything about it being an opinion? If the player found it unplayable, it was unplayable. You can disagree all you want--and claim your game experience was perfect--but that does NOT invalidate the other player's experience.
I don't think you understand what the word unplayable means.
I don't think you understand what the word unplayable means.
I don't think you understand that words have different meanings and connotations depending on experience and usage.
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My snark was aimed directly at you. Are you perhaps, incapable of reading? He stated the game is unplayable as in all copys everywhere across the world are bug riddled messes that can't be played. Is that what he meant? No. Do I care? No. Do people like him constantly fill this forum with thread after thread bitching about the game? Yes. Can I be a jerk at times? Yes.We know it's an opinion.
Who said anything about it being an opinion? If the player found it unplayable, it was unplayable. You can disagree all you want--and claim your game experience was perfect--but that does NOT invalidate the other player's experience.
It's sort of obvious that the player found the game to be unplayable. They said as much. But then you wouldn't be able to come in here, dripping with snark, and mischaracterize the poster's message as extreme.
My snark was aimed directly at you. Are you perhaps, incapable of reading? He stated the game is unplayable as in all copys everywhere across the world are bug riddled messes that can't be played. Is that what he meant? No. Do I care? No. Do people like him constantly fill this forum with thread after thread bitching about the game? Yes. Can I be a jerk at times? Yes.
At least you're aware you were making assumptions about their tone and intent, we're all good.
Apology accepted.
Well to compare the 3 games with the Dragon Age name slapped on it is in fact quite difficult. But for me yes both are as bad.
we got an RPG, then a Hack and slash to end up with an MMO. Two things in common in the 3 is the setting and BioWare story telling style.
Depending of what was expected from the customers ratings goes up and down. lots of people already playing MMOs feel right at home with DAI and since on console there isnt many MMOs, now they are served.
I did exchange two lines with someone who worked on DAI, first he brought up the shield of GOTY and once I told that I kept my wallet closed he answered that I had no reason to whine about the game, Very clear that BioWare doesn't care about the fans, just supporting current customer base for a bit till next project. Keeping long time customers is not part of the plan anymore nor keeping the reputation they had, since the EA logo is slapped on their product we did get anything but a RPG.
For me yes DA2 and DAI are both bad, as bad as SimCity 2014, BF4 and Sims4. All those are under EAs banner.
I don't think you understand that words have different meanings and connotations depending on experience and usage.
Some words. But non-fuctional is not the same as unenjoyable, and unplayable is a term that should be limited to the former.
Should, but isn't and hasn't. But that's the beauty of words.
Should, but isn't and hasn't. But that's the beauty of words.
Depending of what was expected from the customers ratings goes up and down. lots of people already playing MMOs feel right at home with DAI and since on console there isnt many MMOs, now they are served.
I have never played MMO's, nor do I plan to. I still enjoy this game vastly more than DA2 where the hack and slash was poor, but not as bad as the story. My expectations were of a prettier DA2 with limited 'tactical view', but I got a whole lot more. I've never played on a console and use m+kb exclusively on my PC.
Words being used improperly by some doesn't change their meaning, and inconsistent use can render a word useless. While words can evolve, deviating from the commonly accepted meaning still puts one in the wrong. If I start using the word "pizza" to refer to "moose feeces" I'm just wrong.
I disagree, but why are we arguing semantics? We know what the player meant so it's strange to me that so much effort is being made to distort their reply. I guess it's easier to marginalize people with which we disagree if we can make them seem like crazies, right?
I don't think you understand that words have different meanings and connotations depending on experience and usage.
Which meaning is being used here?
I disagree, but why are we arguing semantics? We know what the player meant so it's strange to me that so much effort is being made to distort their reply. I guess it's easier to marginalize people with which we disagree if we can make them seem like crazies, right?
That's it
DAI win at more maps variety, graphics, maybe characters, content but as DRAGON AGE there are lot of things better made in DA2..
Yes. DA2 tastes like tiny nymphs having an orgy inside your mouth after playing Inquisition. That is tasting like heaven in case it wasn't clear enough. Inquisition tastes worse than satan poo, well, I'm not telling how I know the taste but I can assure you it is worse.
Which meaning is being used here?
They didn't enjoy it. It became difficult for them to play.
But we don't know what the player meant. That's my point.
Really? You really can't surmise what the post's true meaning was?
They didn't enjoy it. It became difficult for them to play.
Then that doesn't fall under any accepted definition of unplayable. In their effort to hyperbolize in order to make their opinion stand out, they've invalidated their own opinion.
What, in your opinion, was stopping the poster from saying they didn't enjoy it so much that they no longer wanted to play?
No. What is the difference between "shitty" (DA2) and "unplayable"? Is it a sliding scale (DAI is even less fun)? Is it a reference to stability/(DAI is very buggy)? Is it a reference to some perceived central feature of the game beyond unenjoyable (e.g. the paraphrase wreck RP, the combat is no good)?They didn't enjoy it. It became difficult for them to play.
Really? You really can't surmise what the post's true meaning was?
DAO: 9/10
DA2: 7/10
DAI: 6/10
Then that doesn't fall under any accepted definition of unplayable. In their effort to hyperbolize in order to make their opinion stand out, they've invalidated their own opinion.
What, in your opinion, was stopping the poster from saying they didn't enjoy it so much that they no longer wanted to play?
It's okay that you didn't like the way they said it, but that doesn't change that it's what they said.
No. What is the difference between "shitty" (DA2) and "unplayable"? Is it a sliding scale (DAI is even less fun)? Is it a reference to stability/(DAI is very buggy)? Is it a reference to some perceived central feature of the game beyond unenjoyable (e.g. the paraphrase wreck RP, the combat is no good)?
There's no meaningful information there beside (at most) "I don't like it."
Then you do understand and you're just being pedantic. The player didn't like it, and you and Crono apparently didn't like the hyperbole, but that's no excuse to invalidate the poster's input--which is exactly what was attempted when they were replied to with "well mine works so I guess you're wrong."
Then you do understand and you're just being pedantic. The player didn't like it, and you and Crono apparently didn't like the hyperbole, but that's no excuse to invalidate the poster's input--which is exactly what was attempted when they were replied to with "well mine works so I guess you're wrong."
You're right, I don't like hyperbole. A few years on the ME3 boards will do that. But seeing as this is a forum and therefore words and arguments are all we've got to work with, semantics is very important.
It's okay that you didn't like the way they said it, but that doesn't change that it's what they said.
Then you do understand and you're just being pedantic. The player didn't like it, and you and Crono apparently didn't like the hyperbole, but that's no excuse to invalidate the poster's input--which is exactly what was attempted when they were replied to with "well mine works so I guess you're wrong."
You're right, I don't like hyperbole. A few years on the ME3 boards will do that. But seeing as this is a forum and therefore words and arguments are all we've got to work with, semantics is very important.
That's fine. I'm just concerned that some use that as an excuse to invalidate feedback. I disagree with a lot on these boards, but every person's experience is unique and valuable.
That's fine. I'm just concerned that some use that as an excuse to invalidate feedback. I disagree with a lot on these boards, but every person's experience is unique and valuable.
Well...that's certainly not a unique opinion. 
but every person's experience is unique and valuable.
Not for BioWare or EA, sadly....
but the tactics, skill stuff talking about terms of gameplay isn't
Please, try again. tactic set up and planning is better then dao...but setting up a system for automatic action....*facepalm.
But the conclusion doesn't even answer the OP. Like I said at first: is "shitty" worse than "unplayable"?
Communication is about more than just understanding someone has a general sense of dissatisfaction.
That's irrelevant, but also pretty easy to decipher; "shitty" is at least playable. Given that Inquisition is a game to be played, "unplayable" would probably rank further on the negativity spectrum than "shitty." Ergo, the poster in question probably agrees with the conclusion--and perhaps finds Inquisition worse as an experience.
But this isn't debate club.
Not everyone who comes to these boards is going to be able--or willing--to form a cogent critique of the game. And you know what? They don't have to. If a player wants to come here and proclaim that the game is awful, they should be welcome to (provided they refrain from base insults and vulgarity).
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