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[Graviton]

Whenever you speak to Sera, you get the choice to tell her "You don't fit the inquisition". For the other companions, you get the option to dismiss them only under very special circumstances, e.g. major decision points or reaching very high disapproval ratings. However, for Sera you get this option literally in every conversation.

 

Now, although there are legitimate reasons the Inquisitor might want to let Sera go, there are equally legitimate reasons to let the other companions go (at least the six optional ones). So it doesn't make sense that only Sera gets this option in every conversation.

 

What's even more absurd is that you keep getting this option even if you maxed out her approval, and even after you do her friendship (?) quests (pranks, sitting on the roof), and even if you have been actively taking every chance to flirt with her, and even after you actually tell her you are interested in her! Something here is clearly wrong, there's no way the developers intended for it to be that way.

 

For these reasons I believe that this is in fact a bug. The correct behavior, in my opinion, should be:

1. Either give the option to dismiss the companion in each conversation with every one of the optional companions (i.e. everyone except Cassandra, Solas and Varric), and not just Sera;

2. Or give the option to dismiss Sera only under very special circumstances, just like for the other companions.

 

I will appreciate an official BioWare response on this issue, if possible.

[Etragorn]

Yeah, not a bug.

[C0uncil0rTev0s]

It's only Sera who actually needs that

[SpiritMuse]

Isn't Sera the only one who never leaves on her own if she's fed up?

[WildOrchid]

It's not a bug, sadly. Also lol @ legitmate reasons. The others should be kicked out anytime you want too, not only Sera. It's not like the inquisitor would be annoyed or disagree with Sera only and not with the others too.

Just thinking about that, frustrates me.

[Graviton]

It's only Sera who actually needs that

 

The fact that you, personally, don't like Sera, doesn't mean that the game should be designed according to your subjective opinion. Many people really like Sera. Even some reviewers place her among the best companions in the game (examples: http://www.twinfinit...n-companions/4/ http://www.gamecrate...ect-companions/).

 

Also many people really hate Vivienne, for example. So why is there no option to get rid of Vivienne every time you talk to her?

 

 

Isn't Sera the only one who never leaves on her own if she's fed up?

 

Nope. If she disapproves of you she will want to leave. See this video:

http://youtu.be/07Yw9cwvjns

 

 

Yeah, not a bug.

 

It's not a bug, sadly. Also lol @ legitmate reasons. The others should be kicked out anytime you want too, not only Sera. It's not like the inquisitor would be annoyed or disagree with Sera only and not with the others too.

Just thinking about that, frustrates me.

 

If it's not a bug, then at the very least it's something the developers overlooked when designing the dialogue system, and needs to be fixed.

 

Surely the developers didn't just assume when designing the dialogues that every single Inquisitor will always want to kick out Sera but will never want to kick out any other companion. It just doesn't make sense that they will deliberately design the game this way.

[WildOrchid]

Also it's really weird and unnatural that even a female Inquisitor who is in a romantic relationship with Sera still gets the option to tell her to leave every single time they talk. If this isn't a bug or at least a poor design choice then I don't know what is...

 

Well, a romanced Sera doesn't get that option until you break up with her. I checked it twice.

[Vidas Secas]

[Graviton]

Well, a romanced Sera doesn't get that option until you break up with her. I checked it twice.

 

I checked it myself and you're correct. Sorry for the misunderstanding! I'll edit my posts to reflect that.

 

I also verified that Once you break up with her (boy that was painful to do!) the option to say "You don't fit the Inquisition" immediately returns as a permanent option.

 

I think the thing that was on my mind is that while my Inquisitor was flirting with her and doing pranks and sitting on the roof with her, and even after she told her she's interested in her, she still kept having the option to dismiss her. Right now the option is gone, probably because we're in a (serious?) relationship. I don't have any earlier saves to check when exactly it disappeared, though.

 

This doesn't change my main complaint/bug report/feature request/whatever, however... I still don't understand why only Sera has the option to dismiss her every time you talk to her (unless you're in a serious relationship) while none of the others do.

[C0uncil0rTev0s]

@all who doesn't get the humour

 

I don't like Sera but I do get that it's the only pure female gay romance option. And thus she's to be attractive to a lot of people.
When I say 'it's only her who need it' I mean that others don't do pranks or offend comrades in that a harsh way. And she's the only one who doesn't listen to reason. At all.

 

I mean all party members in DA: I are hardasses, but Sera has the hardest.

[Graviton]

@all who doesn't get the humour

 

I don't like Sera but I do get that it's the only pure female gay romance option. And thus she's to be attractive to a lot of people.
When I say 'it's only her who need it' I mean that others don't do pranks or offend comrades in that a harsh way. And she's the only one who doesn't listen to reason. At all.

 

I mean all party members in DA: I are hardasses, but Sera has the hardest.

 

I do not agree; the fact that people like her is completely unrelated to her being the only pure female gay romance option. I couldn't care less about that. She's just fun, romance or not.

 

Also, seriously? Doing pranks and making fun of people is a reason to kick her out of the Inquisition? You must be joking. She's childish, yes. In fact, since she was a young child during the Fifth Blight which was 11 years before DA:I, she's probably somewhere between the ages of 16 and 20, so she's definitely the youngest companion in the game. So she's pretty immature compared to the others. But it's not like she's a secret spy for Corypheus or something. Being immature is not a reason to be kicked out.

 

Anyway, you're missing my point. Even if some Inquisitor would like to dismiss her because she's doing pranks (which is a perfectly legitimate reason since you're the one playing the game!), another Inquisitor might like to dismiss Vivienne because she's condescending and obviously in it only for her own personal gain (political or otherwise). Certainly for every person who hates Sera there's another person who equally hates Vivienne. Or yet another Inquisitor might want to dismiss Dorian, for example, since he's from Tevinter and (as several scenes throughout the game make clear) that puts the Inquisition in a bad light in the eyes of the people; it certainly has a much larger impact on the Inquisition than Sera's pranks.

 

So this brings us back to my original point: why does only Sera have the option to dismiss her in every single conversation, while the others do not?

[C0uncil0rTev0s]

I do not agree; the fact that people like her is completely unrelated to her being the only pure female gay romance option. I couldn't care less about that. She's just fun, romance or not.

 

Also, seriously? Doing pranks and making fun of people is a reason to kick her out of the Inquisition? You must be joking. She's childish, yes. In fact, since she was a young child during the Fifth Blight which was 11 years before DA:I, she's probably somewhere between the ages of 16 and 20, so she's definitely the youngest companion in the game. So she's pretty immature compared to the others. But it's not like she's a secret spy for Corypheus or something. Being immature is not a reason to be kicked out.

 

Anyway, you're missing my point. Even if some Inquisitor would like to dismiss her because she's doing pranks (which is a perfectly legitimate reason since you're the one playing the game!), another Inquisitor might like to dismiss Vivienne because she's condescending and obviously in it only for her own personal gain (political or otherwise). Certainly for every person who hates Sera there's another person who equally hates Vivienne. Or yet another Inquisitor might want to dismiss Dorian, for example, since he's from Tevinter and (as several scenes throughout the game make clear) that puts the Inquisition in a bad light in the eyes of the people; it certainly has a much larger impact on the Inquisition than Sera's pranks.

 

So this brings us back to my original point: why does only Sera have the option to dismiss her in every single conversation, while the others do not?

 

Sera is nuts. Period.

And she's the only one there who's definitely nuts among the party members.

[Lord_Tatters]

I never encountered the situation the OP mentioned, because I can't get Sera due to a bug.

[Uhuru N'Uru]

I never encountered the situation the OP mentioned, because I can't get Sera due to a bug.

If you mean You didn't recruit her in Val Royeaux immediately and then coudn't after doing the Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts Quest at Winter Palace.

I had that problem with Vivienne, the Messenger was there but No Villa location showed up.

I had to go back to before the Winter Palace mission to make it appear, then wished I'd never bothered, What a self centered and obnoxious character she was, I really hated her attitude and it annoyed me immensely that the only black character or NPC at all. as far as I recall. was like that.

 

The only good point about my giving her the White Wyvern Heart is she never became the Divine in my game, Leliana did and I supported no-one for the job. Conversation with another player who supported Leliana but didn't give Vivienne the Wyvern Heart revealed, Vivienne became DIvine in their game.

I suspect they made her so obnoxious to encourage such an outcome, if someone who supported Leliana and gave Viviene the heart could confirm Leliana became Divine in their game. It would confirm that it's not helping Vivienne with her Orlesian Court ambitions that makes her go for the Chantry post instead.

[FurryFury]

Also, seriously? Doing pranks and making fun of people is a reason to kick her out of the Inquisition? You must be joking. She's childish, yes. In fact, since she was a young child during the Fifth Blight which was 11 years before DA:I, she's probably somewhere between the ages of 16 and 20, so she's definitely the youngest companion in the game. So she's pretty immature compared to the others. But it's not like she's a secret spy for Corypheus or something. Being immature is not a reason to be kicked out.

 

If you happen to choose playing an elf, Sera acts legitimately offensive to you and your culture. It's not just being snarky, it's pretty much demeaning you religion and your people. Frankly, I found it hard to tolerate, and I'm not easily offended usually. No character in the Dragon Age franchise treated the PC like that, except maybe Carver (incidentally, written by the same writer). I don't need for companions to suck up to the PC, but it's hard to roleplay the Inquisitor just standing there and taking it from a (most likely) younger girl with low social standing. 

 

That said, I do think that there should be options to send all other characters away. Or at least try to.

[robertthebard]

If you mean You didn't recruit her in Val Royeaux immediately and then coudn't after doing the Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts Quest at Winter Palace.
I had that problem with Vivienne, the Messenger was there but No Villa location showed up.
I had to go back to before the Winter Palace mission to make it appear, then wished I'd never bothered, What a self centered and obnoxious character she was, I really hated her attitude and it annoyed me immensely that the only black character or NPC at all. as far as I recall. was like that.
 
The only good point about my giving her the White Wyvern Heart is she never became the Divine in my game, Leliana did and I supported no-one for the job. Conversation with another player who supported Leliana but didn't give Vivienne the Wyvern Heart revealed, Vivienne became DIvine in their game.
I suspect they made her so obnoxious to encourage such an outcome, if someone who supported Leliana and gave Viviene the heart could confirm Leliana became Divine in their game. It would confirm that it's not helping Vivienne with her Orlesian Court ambitions that makes her go for the Chantry post instead.

I supported Leliana, gave Viv the white wyvern heart, and got Leliana as Divine.

[Liveshiptrader]

Sera is just a tag-a-long, everyone else has a certain degree of importance outside of being a soldier so it makes sense that there is no real repercussions for telling her to go.

[Uhuru N'Uru]

I supported Leliana, gave Viv the white wyvern heart, and got Leliana as Divine.

Thanks for confirming it. That's pretty much as I expected and proves it's not Helping Vivienne that makes her turn to chasing Divinity (That seems more Appropriate than Divinehood or Divineship, but I don't know what the correct terminology Is). Losing the Orlesian Court influence, she really wanted, must have stung. To be honest though I don't think the Chantry would ever give that post to any Mage at all. Not even a pro-circle one, so it's a weak plot line, badly made. If she was anything but a Mage, it would make more sense.

[Graviton]

*BUMP*

 

I would appreciate an official response from BioWare that they are aware of this behavior, and a clarification as to whether or not this is a bug. Thank you.

[Akka le Vil]

Also, seriously? Doing pranks and making fun of people is a reason to kick her out of the Inquisition? You must be joking.

 

In entertainment ? No, of course not, over-the-top characters are half the fun of fiction.

In believability ? Hell yeah.

 

Not that I don't feel it somehow weird she's the only one having a permanent dismissal button (at the very least Cole should have too, considering the well-meaning-but-frankly-weird ways he has to interfere everywhere), but YEAH doings pranks and making fun of people in her way would be a pretty justifiable reason to be kicked from... any serious organization, really
 

[DarkKnightHolmes]

There's another bug in the game. I can't seem to kill off companions. Such a shame.