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I hope they don't make the Renegade/Ruthless personality really tame like they did with DAI


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I like to have my character be a lot more ruthless than what was in ME3

 

Example is when facing Ashley/Kaidan during the coup, Udina shows a vid of Shepard  killing the Salarian councilor, but yet the squadmates stand there with their hand/paw/claw/tentacle whatever up their 5th point of contact. Why couldn't they speak up for Shepard? My femshep would get in their face and tell them off once back on the Normandy. If they don't care about Shepard, why should Shepard care about them?

 

If the main character has a approval system, why can't that be the same for other characters. If I get disapproval for something, why can't those characters receive disapproval especially for the example I mentioned above? 



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Renegade Shep can also cause the extinction of entire species in ME3, just because....

 

 

 

I think the whole system is out of whack. Totally inconsistent. Paragon should come off as the stereotypical hero. Renegade should be the anti-hero (not a villain). 

 

 

When I play renegade, I want to come off like a smart ass Han Solo, or even a bad ass Snake Plisskin to go a step further.  I don't want to be a murderous sociopath that makes decisions for the most illogical reasons.



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It needs to be more complicated than just paragon and renegade. I want paragon to be the "stereotypical hero" like the above user mentioned, and I want renegade to be like what he mentioned also, but I also want another option which is basically evil. Like, Dark Side evil. Murder, genocide, the works.

 

Is it messed up? Damn right. Would I approve of it in real life? Hell no. But, it's a game, and if my military commander snaps halfway through the game and goes nuts, I want it to be an option. Bring on the heart breaking moments when I go "dark side" on my favourite squad mates. Example: Going renegade on Mordin, Legion, Wrex etc in ME3.



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It needs to be more complicated than just paragon and renegade. I want paragon to be the "stereotypical hero" like the above user mentioned, and I want renegade to be like what he mentioned also, but I also want another option which is basically evil. Like, Dark Side evil. Murder, genocide, the works.

 

Is it messed up? Damn right. Would I approve of it in real life? Hell no. But, it's a game, and if my military commander snaps halfway through the game and goes nuts, I want it to be an option. Bring on the heart breaking moments when I go "dark side" on my favourite squad mates. Example: Going renegade on Mordin, Legion, Wrex etc in ME3.

If interested in killing everyone, try a playthrough like this


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I would rather have renegade be more like Sterling Archer from Archer.

 

Archer Shepard ftw 



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Renegade Shep can also cause the extinction of entire species in ME3, just because....

 

 

 

I think the whole system is out of whack. Totally inconsistent. Paragon should come off as the stereotypical hero. Renegade should be the anti-hero (not a villain). 

 

 

When I play renegade, I want to come off like a smart ass Han Solo, or even a bad ass Snake Plisskin to go a step further.  I don't want to be a murderous sociopath that makes decisions for the most illogical reasons.

 

What exactly are you referring to here? There were some very good reasons to sabotage the genophage. I sabotaged it because I needed Salarian aid. The Reapers were trying to wipe everyone out. Our only hope was to build the crucible. Having Salarian scientific expertise would've been a massive boon to the war effort. The Dalatrass offered me a way to get Salarian aid while keeping Krogan support. Also, I didn't trust the Krogan to form a stable government. The krogan are one of, if not The most xenophobic and violent species out there. In Mass Effect 2 when you first arrive in Tuchanka, the first thing you'll see as you walk through the door is a couple of Krogan talking about how much they hate and want to destroy the Turians and Salarians. If you have Wreav instead of Wrex then you would be straight up foolish to not sabotage the genophage because he pretty much states that he's gonna attack and invade the worlds of other species. And I didn't have enough confidence in Wrex and Eve to keep things in order. There are plenty of Krogan that disagree with Wrex. Wreav is an example. So was Uvenk from ME2. What happens when the Krogan population skyrockets again? I can imagine plenty of clans breaking away from Wrex and going their own way. With their insane growth rates, they could cause some serious devastation to other species, especially the Turians and Salarians. I could write a whole essay on it but there were plenty of reasons to sabotage the genophage so I don't even know why you think he was doing it "just because". If you truly think that then you probably weren't paying attention. Also, the genophage doesn't result in extinction. It might cause serious problems if you factor in the Reaper invasion but we don't have the necessary information to claim that it would result in extinction. Mordin even said in ME2 that the genophage was designed to stabilize Krogan population levels and to prevent a population explosion.  

 

 

Apart from the Krogan, there is no other genocide that renegade Shepard is responsible for. The Geth/Quarians don't count because choosing between them did not reward paragon or renegade points. If you can't do the persuasion then you HAVE to pick one.


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