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This game is really not great - it's just okay, or only parts of it are good


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#51
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I don't understand why you feel my post was somehow singling you out as one who picks nits, especially when we are in agreement that Mass Effect is a great game.

If anything you perceive as a flaw in the game didn't prevent you from logging 550 hours then my comment obviously wasn't directed at you my friend :)


Not singled out, but grouped with many ;)

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I'll be honest. I still love the game as much as I did the first time I played it.

The problem I think a lot of people had is that they went in expecting a shooter, where your twitch based skills are the defining point.

I went in expecting, oddly enough, a Bioware game. One where stats are the defining point, where I had to manage skills, and equipment from lots of loot. Perhaps going in with that mentality let me overlook a lot of the game's flaws.



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It is a flawed game, but every game is flawed. Though the execution of the plot and characters in this game is amazing, and Saren is such a compelling villain. True i enjoy Mass Effect 2 more than Mass Effect for various reasons, but this game is still great, it is a work of art. Nitpicking really irks me, like alot, but i tend to do it myself from time to time, like with Dragon Age II. 


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I still remember getting this game when it first came out, I preordered it on the 360.  I remember the how much I enjoyed the first time I got to start a character and landing on Eden Prime.  I loved the game, it catered to my little kid, inner sci-fi geek that grew up with Star Trek, Star Wars and Blake's Seven, without being any of them.  Was it perfect, no, was it a really good experience, oh hell yeah.

 

I'm not blind to it's flaws, but I still try and replay it once a year or so, just like Jade Empire, it caters to my happy childhood memories, while having a plot that isn't to childish for me to enjoy as a 48 year old adult.



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This game, I love it. I'm not fond of side quests (well, yes, if they are interesting, for squadmates especially) but for weird reasons I got caught up in the game and did everything (even when I replayed it the second time) ! I don't know why, it's repetitive, yes, and look old....but I loved the Mako (even if it was so hard to manipulate, I have to say I had the giggles so many times, especially when I was falling from mountains), playing with my team, playing as my Shepard... it was a wonderful experience, maybe because I'm a space lover ...

And the first time I saw the Milky Way and understood it was actually the world map, I just.... smiled stupidly during 20 minutes :lol:

ME1 has flaws, yes, but the pleasure I had playing it totally swept them away ~



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To the OP from 2 years ago: A 5 or 6? Pshh. Uncharted Worlds was worth at least an 8 alone.
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Nothing feels as satisfying to me as playing a complete ME1 playthrough then immediately continuing on to ME2. I feel as if I'm growing with my Shepard and watching her become the woman she'll be in ME3. ME1 is not one game to overlook due to how old it is, or the lesser graphics or gameplay. I can't even bring myself to play a Gibbed ME2/3 or non-imported one. I always beat ME1 all over again first.



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Nothing feels as satisfying to me as playing a complete ME1 playthrough then immediately continuing on to ME2. I feel as if I'm growing with my Shepard and watching her become the woman she'll be in ME3. ME1 is not one game to overlook due to how old it is, or the lesser graphics or gameplay. I can't even bring myself to play a Gibbed ME2/3 or non-imported one. I always beat ME1 all over again first.

Nothing wrong with doing that.

 

Here's the difference not having a save import from ME2


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Nothing wrong with doing that.

 

Here's the difference not having a save import from ME2

 

LOL that looks almost too fun and I should try it for laughs!


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LOL that looks almost too fun and I should try it for laughs!

If  you do, post your playthrough in the what you did in ME thread so folks can read your thoughts about it.


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Nothing feels as satisfying to me as playing a complete ME1 playthrough then immediately continuing on to ME2. I feel as if I'm growing with my Shepard and watching her become the woman she'll be in ME3. ME1 is not one game to overlook due to how old it is, or the lesser graphics or gameplay. I can't even bring myself to play a Gibbed ME2/3 or non-imported one. I always beat ME1 all over again first.

 

 

I can't say that I'm a huge fan of the transition between 1 and 2, but that's mainly because I despise Project Lazarus and feel that the whole death and quick revival sequence made the prologue unpalatable. 


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I can't say that I'm a huge fan of the transition between 1 and 2, but that's mainly because I despise Project Lazarus and feel that the whole death and quick revival sequence made the prologue unpalatable. 

 

I've seen it done in movies. I'm guessing the sudden death is so damn sudden you are supposed to know it will obviously have a sort of catch to it lol and since Cerberus was seeking to create a super solider, it's no wonder they chose Shepard.



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I've seen it done in movies. I'm guessing the sudden death is so damn sudden you are supposed to know it will obviously have a sort of catch to it lol and since Cerberus was seeking to create a super solider, it's no wonder they chose Shepard.

 

Only they didn't, they kept him exactly the same. Personally i would have given him lasers for eyes.

 

Also are we going to pretend mass effect 1 is anywhere near movie levels? The closest may be Star wars and that is still nowhere near.



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well....

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Only they didn't, they kept him exactly the same. Personally i would have given him lasers for eyes.

 

Also are we going to pretend mass effect 1 is anywhere near movie levels? The closest may be Star wars and that is still nowhere near.

 

Unless you play a Renegade, then you get glowing eyes and scars. TIM seemed obsessed with not changing Shepard and keeps stating it, so he was a bit of a perfectionist and missed out on upgrading Shep to be more, unless you count the new biotic implant as something.

 

I found ME1 to be an action RPG. They had nice moments that gave it a movie-like feel, but ME2 definitely felt more like a movie imo. Then ME3 felt like mostly a movie we had no control over except for the action scenes. Bioware always goes for that movie-like feel, but I found between all 3 the balance was off. I will never tire of playing the games, but that imbalance will never change no matter what I do and I have learned to try and ignore it.


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I think ME2 felt more like a tv series, given that it had a really episodic format to it.

 

As for Shepard's reincarnation, they did give him some extras with the Lazarus project. All those upgrades you can buy/research like hardened skin, muscle enhancements and bone structure alterations are for you cybernetic upgrades. Also, if you read the description of the Widow in ME2, they say that a normal human cannot handle the weapon. Shepard can only do it because of his augmentations.

 

... Lasers for eyes would of course have been cool though, very 80s. :)



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ME2 sometimes felt as a Schwarzenegger movie to me :D I got better  :whistle:

ME1 was almost the ideal game for me storywise. Almost, because I would've preferred a smaller scale conflict with a non-military character. Gameplay-wise, ME3 wins hands down  :)



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ME2 sometimes felt as a Schwarzenegger movie to me :D

 

Hmmm, I wonder why.

 

Oh wait:

Spoiler

:D



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In my first ME2 playthrough, I did call Shepard the Terminator but mostly since I've been playing Paragon from the start. Fortunately, some parts of neutral and renegade dialogues make humanized her somehow. More like seething in silent anger and deep frustration. Then again, I haven't played ME2 with a BroShep yet but I kinda predicted the Terminator vibe would get a lot worst.



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Unless you play a Renegade, then you get glowing eyes and scars. TIM seemed obsessed with not changing Shepard and keeps stating it, so he was a bit of a perfectionist and missed out on upgrading Shep to be more, unless you count the new biotic implant as something.

 

I found ME1 to be an action RPG. They had nice moments that gave it a movie-like feel, but ME2 definitely felt more like a movie imo. Then ME3 felt like mostly a movie we had no control over except for the action scenes. Bioware always goes for that movie-like feel, but I found between all 3 the balance was off. I will never tire of playing the games, but that imbalance will never change no matter what I do and I have learned to try and ignore it.

yeah that's kind of how I feel about it too tbh



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I think ME2 felt more like a tv series, given that it had a really episodic format to it.
 
As for Shepard's reincarnation, they did give him some extras with the Lazarus project. All those upgrades you can buy/research like hardened skin, muscle enhancements and bone structure alterations are for you cybernetic upgrades. Also, if you read the description of the Widow in ME2, they say that a normal human cannot handle the weapon. Shepard can only do it because of his augmentations.
 
... Lasers for eyes would of course have been cool though, very 80s. :)


Yes, every store in the galaxy was waiting for the first human to be revived through cybernetics, then provide upgrades for him and him alone.
 
According to ME1 codex anyone can upgrades to their strength, as long as you dont add new abilities according to the Sudham-Wolcott Genetic Heritage Act. Which is probably why we don't get to add new abilities in ME1. I don't know what went on in ME2's story and lore department, but holy hell its a mess.
 

Unless you play a Renegade, then you get glowing eyes and scars. TIM seemed obsessed with not changing Shepard and keeps stating it, so he was a bit of a perfectionist and missed out on upgrading Shep to be more, unless you count the new biotic implant as something.
 
I found ME1 to be an action RPG. They had nice moments that gave it a movie-like feel, but ME2 definitely felt more like a movie imo. Then ME3 felt like mostly a movie we had no control over except for the action scenes. Bioware always goes for that movie-like feel, but I found between all 3 the balance was off. I will never tire of playing the games, but that imbalance will never change no matter what I do and I have learned to try and ignore it.


I hope ME:A will be an action RPG with more emphasis on the RPG, and movie like elements will be restricted like ME1/2.

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Yes, every store in the galaxy was waiting for the first human to be revived through cybernetics, then provide upgrades for him and him alone.
 
According to ME1 codex anyone can upgrades to their strength, as long as you dont add new abilities according to the Sudham-Wolcott Genetic Heritage Act. Which is probably why we don't get to add new abilities in ME1. I don't know what went on in ME2's story and lore department, but holy hell its a mess.

 

What you are talking about in the ME1 codex is gene-therapy enhancements. The descriptions of the ME2 upgrades reveal them as cybernetic enhancements and they only work for Shepard. Same goes for the widow. You can only buy one single one of those types of upgrades from a shop and that is from the quarian guy on Omega. Quarians are known to employ cybernetic upgrades as well. Everything else you have to research yourself. So no contradiction there.

 

EDIT: Ah, sorry, there is actually two, you can buy a heavy skin weave upgrade at Illium (which is a hub for barely illegal tech from the Terminus). I still think it's fairly clear these are upgrades that work only for Shepard and the description of the widow shows it as well.


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In my first ME2 playthrough, I did call Shepard the Terminator but mostly since I've been playing Paragon from the start. Fortunately, some parts of neutral and renegade dialogues make humanized her somehow. More like seething in silent anger and deep frustration. Then again, I haven't played ME2 with a BroShep yet but I kinda predicted the Terminator vibe would get a lot worst.

I called him the "relentless undead cyborg"  ;)



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The descriptions of the ME2 upgrades reveal them as cybernetic enhancements and they only work for Shepard.

 

So if Cerberus didn't revive Shepard, those companies would go out of business because noone would buy these things as they only fit shepard. If I don't buy them families would be ruined. Stop making me feel bad man.



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So if Cerberus didn't revive Shepard, those companies would go out of business because noone would buy these things as they only fit shepard. If I don't buy them families would be ruined. Stop making me feel bad man.

 

Well, I don't think he is necessarily the only augmented person in the galaxy, just the only one in the squad. And the original post I answered to was this:

 

Only they didn't, they kept him exactly the same. Personally i would have given him lasers for eyes.

 

All I said was that, no, Cerberus didn't keep him exactly the same, they did give him improvements which is mentioned in the game and even part of the gameplay with these upgrades that are specifically for him (they didn't give him the lasers though).