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[Madrict]

Haha tbh I can barely tell what the despair demons are. They don't seem to have a face really....just a big gaping mouth xD

For a while I thought they looked like gnomes lol

[metatheurgist]

Could you consider Morrigan a harpy?

I'm sure she could shape shift into one.
 

I'd be surprised if they actually ever showed it, even though I wish they would. It seems like it would be an investment of time and money for little gain.

Wasn't there a certain "choice" spirit in the game?

[Augustei]

So I was just playing through in Hushed Whispers....which is amazing imo, such an eerie feeling they managed to achieve! Anyway I saw a fair few paintings of what I can only assume are harpies flying around.

This got me thinking....do harpies exist in the Dragon Age universe? Any references?

Personally, I love them.....and since Desire Demons are a no show (sad face), maybe harpies would be a cool female monster they could add for variety? :-)

Yeah theres one on the throne of Orlais
Another leading the Templars in Kirkwall
 

[Kaibe]

Swore this said hippies for a moment. The closest thing to a harpy would probably be a desire demon as stated before, but it's doubtable that we'll get actual ones.

[Zyrious]

I say screw the political correctness and just bring back desire demons. If they can do both genders great if not oh well. This is afterall the company that harped about artistic integrity after ME 3. Besides I'd like to think BW doesn't buy in to the sarkeesian identity politics fluff going on ATM.

[Madrict]

Totally agree. I want Desire Demons back! Comon Bioware, do me a solid

 

Games are way too heavily censored compared to other media. It's stupid.

[Lady Artifice]

Wasn't there a certain "choice" spirit in the game?

 

Yeah, but Imshael just had a regular human model. As a matter of fact, he makes jabs in TME at the default desire demon form. 

 

What I'm doubting is whether Bioware would invest resources in designing a male version of the desire demon form. These things take time and money, more than people realize a lot of the time. 

 

Hell, I still think the first reason for the Asari being monogendered is because they knew that would be make things a lot easier for them when it came to actually designing the game. They didn't have to design female versions of Turians or Salarians for most of ME. They didn't have any female Dwarves in DA2. Practicality has to play a role in how the story is written. 

 

So, desire demons default as the form more culturally associated with sensuality. 

[Mims]

Its possible there are creatures we haven't seen yet, or have died out. I noticed in one of the elven temples, there's a painting of a lizard man. 

[aries1001]

Morrigan can shapesift into a spider, a bear and a stinging swarm, please look here: http://dragonage.wik...ki/Shapeshifter

As for sirens, I have always thought they were mermaids? as in the sirens that nearly lures Odesseus to his grave in the Odessey. And he - and shipmates - only survives by putting wax in their ears.

In regards to the birds which color is black on the pictures, aren't they ravens? 

[Deanna]

Eerr I dont think the desire demon Dorian encountered was a male form of a desire demon. Yes he likes men, and he refers to the demon as 'he' but in DA2 if you take Aveline in the fade with you the desire demon turns into Wesley tricking her. The desire demon Dorian encountered could've simply turned into a male figure to tempt Dorian more easily cuz that's what he likes.

That's how I took it anyways, when he brought up the desire demon and said "he".

[Hellion Rex]

Eerr I dont think the desire demon Dorian encountered was a male form of a desire demon. Yes he likes men, and he refers to the demon as 'he' but in DA2 if you take Aveline in the fade with you the desire demon turns into Wesley tricking her. The desire demon Dorian encountered could've simply turned into a male figure to tempt Dorian more easily cuz that's what he likes.

That's how I took it anyways, when he brought up the desire demon and said "he".

Demons really have no default gender though. Only mortals ascribe those labels to them. Demons simply mold their forms to our mortal perception. So that desire demon could easily have been a more masculine version.

[CrimsonN7]

Swore this said hippies for a moment. The closest thing to a harpy would probably be a desire demon as stated before, but it's doubtable that we'll get actual ones.

 

I read it as herpes myself, need coffee.

[Madrict]

To be honest I started this thread yesterday, came back to check the forums this morning and read herpes too...... o_o

[metatheurgist]

Morrigan can shapesift into a spider, a bear and a stinging swarm, please look here: http://dragonage.wik...ki/Shapeshifter

In DA:O Morrigan talks about being a cat and exploring the woods as a cat. She says she can't imitate humans, not because humans aren't listed in the shapeshifter specs in DA Wiki , but because she can't get into the mindset of a specific human to imitate them. This implies she can shapeshift into anything she can adopt the mindset for. When you reject the ritual she turns into a dog and runs away.

In Inquisition she turns into a raven. She can even turn into a

Spoiler

dragon. Confirming for many her man-eating qualities.

So tell me again about how she can only be a spider, bear and stinging swarm.

[Lady Artifice]

As for sirens, I have always thought they were mermaids? as in the sirens that nearly lures Odesseus to his grave in the Odessey. And he - and shipmates - only survives by putting wax in their ears.

 

 

See the page 1 of the thread for my source to the Sirens' Wiki page to back up my claim. As I mentioned there, the modern assumption that they're mermaid-like is very common because of the exact reason you just mentioned. However, the fact of them actually being being bird-like creatures in no way prevents them from leading sailors astray. They hang out on a treacherous rocky shore (the way birds do) and lure sailors in with their melody. 

 

Those are a couple of reason why the association with birds actually makes more sense than any association with sea-life. 

[Lady Artifice]

Found something cool, thought I'd put it here.

 

Snowy Harpy by Sandara:

 

[Sifr]

See the page 1 of the thread for my source to the Sirens' Wiki page to back up my claim. As I mentioned there, the modern assumption that they're mermaid-like is very common because of the exact reason you just mentioned. However, the fact of them actually being being bird-like creatures in no way prevents them from leading sailors astray. They hang out on a treacherous rocky shore (the way birds do) and lure sailors in with their melody. 

 

Those are a couple of reason why the association with birds actually makes more sense than any association with sea-life. 

 

Two words: Wounded Coast.

 

And with the huge amount of bird imagery in the Free Marches, having Harpies plague their shores would have been very fitting?

[Joe25]

i don't think i've seen any mention of harpies or female/bird creatures in DA codex's. but there is much still unknown about Par Vollen, or the norther land that the Qunari/Kossith originate. 

I'm okay with bird people being the fifth race in Dragon Age. I am also okay with rat men. 

[Sifr]

I'm okay with bird people being the fifth race in Dragon Age. I am also okay with rat men. 

 

Wouldn't that be the sixth race? You're forgetting the mysterious Fex from Par Vollen?

[Joe25]

This is a Fereldan tapestry on the life of Andraste.



I'm assuming that's the Black City, as the next one is the Maker appearing to Andraste(with 80's hair.)

In Legacy Corypheus is depicted as a dark angel. If the tapestry is the Black City then the harpies could be the Magister of Old being portrayed as hell birds.

[Joe25]

Wouldn't that be the sixth race? You're forgetting the mysterious Fex from Par Vollen?

I think the Fex are just hornless Qunari. I kind of got the hint that the Qunari did something to mess with their DNA, but this is theory mixed with Iron Bull's thoughts on dragons.

[Sifr]

I think the Fex are just hornless Qunari. I kind of got the hint that the Qunari did something to mess with their DNA, but this is theory mixed with Iron Bull's thoughts on dragons.

 

I could see this fitting with how the Fex worshipped that horned race (who weren't Qunari) that existed on Par Vollen and so mistook the Qunari for them when they showed up later? Perhaps the Fex were the same race as their horned masters, but their masters had interbred with Dragons and thus it became a sign of nobility?

 

And perhaps that's why the Qunari left the Kossith, because they rejected this way of thinking and so now revere those without horns as being special, as being closer to who they were "meant" to be before they arrogantly screwed around with their genes?

[Joe25]

I could see this fitting with how the Fex worshipped that horned race (who weren't Qunari) that existed on Par Vollen and so mistook the Qunari for them when they showed up later? Perhaps the Fex were the same race as their horned masters, but their masters had interbred with Dragons and thus it became a sign of nobility?

 

And perhaps that's why the Qunari left the Kossith, because they rejected this way of thinking and so now revere those without horns as being special, as being closer to who they were "meant" to be before they arrogantly screwed around with their genes?

I could see that being what happened. It would also explain the extreme fear of magic because once again blood magic messes everything. If mages would just quit cutting themselves the world Dragon Age would be a safer place.  

[Lady Artifice]

I could see this fitting with how the Fex worshipped that horned race (who weren't Qunari) that existed on Par Vollen and so mistook the Qunari for them when they showed up later? Perhaps the Fex were the same race as their horned masters, but their masters had interbred with Dragons and thus it became a sign of nobility?

 

And perhaps that's why the Qunari left the Kossith, because they rejected this way of thinking and so now revere those without horns as being special, as being closer to who they were "meant" to be before they arrogantly screwed around with their genes?

 

 

I'm out of likes but I like that theory.

[Sifr]

I could see that being what happened. It would also explain the extreme fear of magic because once again blood magic messes everything. If mages would just quit cutting themselves the world Dragon Age would be a safer place.  

 

Exactly, the modern horned Qunari being descended from an ancient, shady magical experiment would be a major source of shame for those in the know (such as the Tamassrans) and it would explain why they have such an knee-jerk reaction to any kind of magic whatsoever, to the point where they don't even train their Saarebas to become healers as that would necessitate them drawing upon Spirits of the Fade?

 

It would also possibly explain what happened to the Kossith and/or the race that once inhabited Par Vollen, and why Bull believes that why the Qunari needed the Qun to survive, as their draconic natures were causing them to destroy themselves through sheer infighting and a lack of control?