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[Precursor Meta]

Just wanted to hear people's opinions on Corypheus as the antagonist of the game. What are your thoughts?

I'm still torn on the issue because while his first appearance at haven definitely seemed intimidating, I feel that every showing of him after that made him seem more clumsy and diminished his omnipotence.

I liked his theme music though...

[TormDK]

I would have liked more areas similar to the Temple of Dumat, that involves his background further.

 

But I suppose we will get to see more of that in the next game as the series moves north.

[Feranel]

Hrm, I think in the Temple when we finally get to see just how quickly and easily Cory can come back from being atomized, it was a pretty good scene.   Solas makes a lot of good points about how Corypheus' obsession with his image as a god hampers him, however, and I think that's where some of the problem comes from, if he had deigned to actually try to kill us himself he would have won.

[luism]

He was skeletor

[Ashagar]

For the story Inquisition has he worked, He was just the sort of insane ancient unredeemable evil the story required. A enigmatic villain like the architect or a sympathic anti-villain Loghain would have ruined the story.

[veeia]

He was a fantastic villain that wasn't utilized as well as he could have been, IMO.

[Zwingtanz]

Theoretically, yes.

[Zarb the Bard]

I like Corypheus as a villain, but he could have been done better. As he was done, he feels a bit like an ominous threat looming in the distance. Like the archdemon from Origins, except watered down.

[MadDemiurg]

He's incredibly lame although he had potential to be good.

 

I can't help but compare him to Zygmunt Molotch from the Ravenor series, as that one is about WH40K inquisition. Now that one was a well done heretic/apostate, albeit somewhat mary sueish.

 

I would prefer him to be witty, cunning, manipulative and resourceful instead of the cardboard ancient evil wizard feel.

[X Equestris]

He was a decent villain. If he had a bit more screen time, he could have been a downright fantastic villain.

[NoForgiveness]

I thought he was pretty BA for a undoubtedly evil type villain. But I really prefer the shade of grey/Loghain types.

[_Aine_]

Good villain?  Certainly, at least conceptually. 

 

Did the game utilize him as well as it could have?  I'd give a hearty Hell No for that.   I felt that his implementation was underwhelming.  The final confrontation felt really understated in comparison to other pivotal quest battles.   

 

But like someone already mentioned, I also prefer the more "grey" villains like Loghain, where the evil is more insidious and open to interpretation.   So, it could be that I suppose.  

[Ran Dra]

Corypheus created history as a main antagonist - with addition of his plot in Dragon Age II - this idea was (is) a masterpiece in my point of view. From very first contact with him at prison he made a big impact on me - vision of ancient magister, who is reflection of Chantry parables about the Golden City and it's corrupt was somehow thrilling for me. Releasing him from the bonds that were blocking his, Corypheus first words after awakening... Simply, that was something epic if we are talking about the tension building before Inquisition.

 

When I had seen Corypheus for the first time in Inquisition, I thought: 'ha! That's he". Corypheus was certainly very powerful magister, with an access to knowledge long forgotten in nowadays Thedas. Tracking his movements and acquiring more knowledge about his motivations and some plots about his personal history - that was somehow inspiring for me.

 

Main problem with Corypheus in Inquisition is, that at final, he was way to easy to beat.

 

Personally, I would like to learn something more about Sethius Amlaradis, the other magister and times they lived somehow. That's not the core of this topic of course, but I can't resist to express my statements, that I would simply love to see reality of ancient Tevinter at the peak of power. If some part of games/comics/anything connected to Thedas universe would take us here I would be absolutely delightful to learn more about realms that caused Sethius path to power.

[KainD]

Horrible antagonist, would make a better protagonist. 

[Staufer]

He never seemed particularly threatening to neither my Inquisitor nor the Inquisition, for me.  Maybe that's because we stop him BEFORE he manages to do proper villain stuff - the kind that you see in the apocaliptic future you get send into in Redcliffe. Alexius and Florianne, despite likely being considerably weaker, seemed far more dangerous to me. Also, the fact that the fight with him was actually /easier/ than it was back in Dragon Age 2 probably didn't help his image either - but that's more of a technical gameplay matter than a plot one, so.

[mmu1]

He was a horrible villain. (though I enjoyed the game) 

 

There's very little meaningful buildup before his first appearance, until you (too easily by far) close down the first rift and all of a sudden he shows up to kick you in the balls and get defeated by a deus ex machina... at which point he disappears again and you learn almost nothing about him until the fairly anticlimactic confrontation at the end, and then he dies and that's it, you're no wiser until the after-credits scene. (which still tells you nothing about Corypheus)

 

The fact that he's being recycled from a DA2 DLC just makes him worse, because he's either someone you either killed already, or don't give a crap about because you couldn't be bothered to play DA2 DLCs.

 

In theory, the idea of facing someone who entered the Golden City is an awesome idea, but they did virtually nothing with it. Maybe because they were afraid of what revealing too much about the events surrounding the disappearance of the Maker would mean in terms of future continuity headaches, or (probably more likely, and familiar to many a pen and paper Dungeon Master who ended up running a campaign that lasted for years) they came up with a bunch of cool plot hooks without any solid idea how they were going to explain everything and tie things up in the end, and figured they'd do it down the line, when it became necessary.

 

So instead of getting answers about the mysteries contained in what we just played through, we're being teased with more mind-blowing mysterious stuff for the next game. And the next...

[Vox Draco]

He, at least, was a villain, in contrast to the other DA-Games...

 

DAO: Archdemon was just an oversized lizard that had like two short little appearances before he became endboss, and he was silent as our protagonist. Loghain had potential, bt the way he was used he was sadly just "meh" and didn't do much else than die at the Landsmeet...

 

DA2: The concept of the game's plot itself made it hard for a central villain, but that's not a real excuse in my book. Anyway, both Meredith and Orsino came mcuh too late into the plot to really make much of an impact..

 

DAI: Cory? WEll, he had an extremly good introduction. Haven was exactly the way you do that with a villain to make him badass...sadly he went the Loghain-way after that, and didn't make other appearances after that until the end...with so much stuff to do after Haven you almost forget he is the villain (even though he is constantly mentioned). And the end was talked about a lot by now...it came too quickly and the Quisition was on such a successful steamrol before that, and due to that defeating Cory lacked the emotional impact.

 

Bioware really needs a good villain for DA4...

[Exalus]

The climax of the main quest for me was when we first met him in haven. After that we didnt really see him again until the end of the game, he literally just up and vanished while we dismantled his army and political power. I would have liked to see him kill warden clarrel and died doing so only to resurrect.

 

Maybe its more for the fact that the main quest was so short.

Start
val royaux

mages or templar

battle at haven <- climax

Skyhold

wicked eyes wicked hearts - can be completed with very little combat

here lies the abyss - longest segment 

 

Missing quest that delves into tevintor lore, deep roads, darkspawn and an epic appearance by cory fish.

 

temple of mythal <- see him briefly here

end

[phaonica]

I was excited to see him as the bad guy of this game, at first, but he didn't arrive with any new lore revelations or sympathetic quality or anything. He was depicted as just a simple, black-and-white monster.

[MadDemiurg]

Honestly I would prefer a Hannibal Lector type of villain for Inquisition if that's a more recognizable reference.

 

An apostate mage (Corypheus would actually work as a character) that constantly outsmarts and outplays the opposition, acting with extremely limited resources, and being beaten only out of luck, not being an utter failure at everything he does.

 

Cool stuff he could do:

• Intentionally get captured to get closer to inquisitor and mock everyone while being interrogated. That's a huge cliche for sure, but a cool one at least
• Possess and impersonate different characters
• Mind control characters to do his bidding. Better yet, make them follow him out of fear, preferably someone inside Inquisition, one of companions for instance
• Trick his enemies into fighting each other

And many, many more ideas,,,

 

However what he did was a series of stupid and illogical moves, and he failed at pretty much everything... disappointing

[DLaren]

Was Corypheus a good villain?

 

 

No because Hawke killed him in Dragon Age II.

 

Recycling villains is never a good idea...if they're running out of ideas then just give us the last Blight and end the series on a high note.

[ManiacG]

Corypheus was bad ass when he first enterd the scene but over time he lost his luster and became quite the dull character, they could have done so much more with him...but then again the story was rather short excluding the filler content

[MadDemiurg]

No because Hawke killed him in Dragon Age II.

 

Recycling villains is never a good idea...

Just wait until Corypheus returns from the Fade alive and teams up with an Archdemon and revived Meridith against Sandal (new protagonist) in DA4

[Hippiethecat124]

He had an excellent introduction in Legacy, I feel - his confusion at being awakened from his prison, his horror of the blackened walls of the Golden City, the palpable sense of power presented through the use of his VA. Unfortunately, very, very little of this made it into Inquisition.

I felt he was quite intimidating during the one-on-one scene in Haven (well, two-on-one, counting his blighted dragon), and was quite excited to see how he would be utilized through the remainder of the game, but after that, well... We got the Arbor Wilds scene and the final battle and that was it. To be honest, I sometimes forgot Corypheus was supposed to be the major antagonist - he was more of a watchmaker, if you will, who set the events of the game into motion. That, and his motivation was condensed into "God tier nao, pls?" I've heard there is a little more elaboration on him if you side with the Templars and fight Calpernia, but my run was with the mages, and he just seemed like a cardboard cutout of something that could have been intimidating and powerful. His combat also seemed nerfed from what he could do in DA:II - I think it took me longer to fight the Hinterlands dragon than the entirety of the final boss battle. Cory was easily the most challenging fight in II.

[Feranel]

No because Hawke killed him in Dragon Age II.

 

Recycling villains is never a good idea...

 

=/  Idunno, I had a strong feeling right off the bat that "if Hawke and some other homeless hobos can kill this guy, why were the ancient wardens so stressed out about this guy that they locked him up for all time using BLOOD MAGIC."

 

Hawke freeing Corypheus to kill him is the height of stupid arrogance.