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[ashlover mark 2]

No he wasn't. The Archdemon was way more menacing than Cory was. Plus the Archdemon was only the overarching threat. Loghain was the main personable enemy. You never even really see the Archdemon until the final battle of Denerim. Your definition of what is cheesy is in very bad taste.

While I agree The archdemon>Corypheus, you actually see the archdemon 4 times in DA:O. 

 

As for Corypheus; he was a villian with potential but was underutilized. You thwart him too many times for him to actually feel like a threat.

[Riladel]

I like Cory as a villain. He is broken, and he wants to give a god to this world, because he cant imagine how it could work another way. There has to be a god, I think he truly thinks that he is doing good for the world. His faith is broken; "the throne was empty", Come to think of it he and Leliana have smth in common. They want to believe but they see nothing to believe in. He is not stupid, he is not even that evil. So he seemed to be very interesting villain.

[Riladel]

And don't forget: to learn a littler bit more about Cory himself and his motivations, you have to chose Templars quest instead of mages.

[Talian Kross]

I liked his theme music though...

 

Oh, me, too!  It's just a few repeating notes, so it's doubtful it was, but does anyone know if it was included in the bonus soundtrack?

 

Edit:  NVM.  Found it.  The Elder One Theme, of course, but I didn't know that was it because the part they play in-game doesn't start until the 3:21 mark, and I was only checking the starts of each track.

[Broganisity]

I looked upon the representation of Corypheus, and it was empty.

[ashlover mark 2]

And don't forget: to learn a littler bit more about Cory himself and his motivations, you have to chose Templars quest instead of mages.

That's the thing though; I shouldn't have to sacrifice mage freedom so that the antagonist is more interesting. The same amount of content should be available for both alliances. I'm not shocked though -this just another example of Biowares incompetence.

[LS2GTO2006]

I think Cory isn't the real villain. I think the true villain will hopefully get more screen time in the dlc, and hopefully we won't have to wait until the next game. For what it's worth, didn't the Bioware devs mentiones something big at play behind the scenes many times. I certainly hope they aren't talking about Cory.

[Riladel]

That's the thing though; I shouldn't have to sacrifice mage freedom so that the antagonist is more interesting. The same amount of content should be available for both alliances. I'm not shocked though -this just another example of Biowares incompetence.

 

I agree. That was just an observation. I haven't played for templars yet, just read that it would be more interesting and you can get more info on Cory. But I played for mages twice and still I liked Cory, he is interesting, at first it seemed that he is just ordinary villain who wants to become a god so he would be the most powerful creature. But then I understood that this is not the reason and he has much deeper motivation and I can actually feel sorry for him, because in the scene in Haven it is easy to see how the fact that he saw no god broke him and broke his entire world. Still I understand that what he is doing is bad, but I think the villain like him is more interesting that just an ordinary villain who wants to rule the world only because he is so ambitious and has no other reasons and motivations.

[In Exile]

Regardless of how it ended he had the best entry of any Bioware villain in Haven. That counts for something IMO.

[ashlover mark 2]

I agree. That was just an observation. I haven't played for templars yet, just read that it would be more interesting and you can get more info on Cory. But I played for mages twice and still I liked Cory, he is interesting, at first it seemed that he is just ordinary villain who wants to become a god so he would be the most powerful creature. But then I understood that this is not the reason and he has much deeper motivation and I can actually feel sorry for him, because in the scene in Haven it is easy to see how the fact that he saw no god broke him and broke his entire world. Still I understand that what he is doing is bad, but I think the villain like him is more interesting that just an ordinary villain who wants to rule the world only because he is so ambitious and has no other reasons and motivations.

I agree, he was interesting and had potential but I don't think he lived up to it unfortunately. After Haven he's defeated at every turn to the point where him and his forces just seem flat out incompetent.

[In Exile]

That's the thing though; I shouldn't have to sacrifice mage freedom so that the antagonist is more interesting. The same amount of content should be available for both alliances. I'm not shocked though -this just another example of Biowares incompetence.

Personally I think the story is far, far better with the mage path (though I think champions of then just is the better mission standing alone). The Elder One is an existential threat on that path. You see the culmination of his plan at Redcliffe in the dark future, and the bleakness and devastation he visits on the word. You also see the horror brought on by the red lyrium. When Corypheus appears with a legion of monstrous templars, you see the reflection of dark fate awaiting all of Thedas if you fail. When he crushes the Inquisition at Haven, it adds to the hopelessness of the situation - not only did he break you, but perhaps his dark victory in the future is unavoidable. It makes the Inquisition's need to believe that the Herald was sent by the Maker all the more important to them.

I dunno, after playing through the templar side of things, I don't think the temple of Dumat in any way makes up for all the bleakness that gets added by siding with the mages.

[ashlover mark 2]

Regardless of how it ended he had the best entry of any Bioware villain in Haven. That counts for something IMO.

Yeah. My jaw dropped when I Saw him walk over that mountain rise. 

[In Exile]

Yeah. My jaw dropped when I Saw him walk over that mountain rise.

I was thinking of his appearance in the flames after you get past the trebuchet battles, as his theme plays in the background. I think that scene - and the raw power you see Corypheus wield - is what makes him so underwhelming when he gets fisted by the Inquisition later on.

[WhoopinYourA55Mate]

Cory good guy?Sure he wasn't all pure evil...more like delusional guy...but good guy?Nah.

This is what kind of good/evil makes you questioning yourself greatly:

[ashlover mark 2]

I was thinking of his appearance in the flames after you get past the trebuchet battles, as his theme plays in the background. I think that scene - and the raw power you see Corypheus wield - is what makes him so underwhelming when he gets fisted by the Inquisition later on.

That part is cool aswell, for me though I had a feeling Corypheus would show up in DA:I because of how extensively they kept showing the siege of Adamant in the traliers. But I just didn't really think they would make a DLC character the main antagonist. I literally said out loud "Holy **** it's Corypheus".

[Reymoose]

No, Coryfish wasn't a good villain. In any sense. Summed up below.

 

http://johnswritersb...sition-ending1/

 

There's alluded pathos to Corypheus which never pans out, and disappears less than halfway in the game, after which he becomes a cartoon-villain of sorts.

[Riladel]

Cory good guy?Sure he wasn't all pure evil...more like delusional guy...but good guy?Nah.

This is what kind of good/evil makes you questioning yourself greatly:

 

 

 He is definitely not a good guy and I guess no one thinks he is.

[Steppenwolf]

The idea of Corypheus is great, but he was an incompetent villain. He failed at literally every point in his plan.
 
"Busted open the Fade, now I just need my Anchor..."
"I'll just kill that assface that stole my Anchor..."
"I'll just turn my general into my mindless servant..."
"I'll just go to an ancient Elven temple and steal all of the knowledge of the Arlathans..."
"I'll just freak out and try one last time to get into the Black City..."

He didn't even procure the orb himself. It was just given to him by a groggy elf. He had nothing but a few Wardens at his disposal before that.

[Hair Serious Business]

Pagan

He was the "evil" I had crush on lol 

[WhoopinYourA55Mate]

Pagan

He was the "evil" I had crush on lol 

Dear almost every female that played FC4 had the same crush.

[aerisblight]

Well..... he has one of the sexiest voices i heard for a bad guy. Wait, hes on par with the voice from the crawler from fable 3

[Rawgrim]

A good villain does more than just trash a small village in the mountains, and then just lets the hero take everything away from him.

[In Exile]

No, Coryfish wasn't a good villain. In any sense. Summed up below.

http://johnswritersb...sition-ending1/

There's alluded pathos to Corypheus which never pans out, and disappears less than halfway in the game, after which he becomes a cartoon-villain of sorts.

The argument in that essay isn't especially persuasive. It misses, among other things, the value in an archetype for the sort of story DAI tells. There's a fascination with antagonists in modern fiction that often minimises the inherent value in an antagonist as simply a foil for the protagonist. That's who Corypheus is - the dark reflection of all the valued the Inquisitor can represented. That's why his constant failure is thematically important.

[l7986]

Coryphenis is the Kai Leng of Dragon Age. Also I was expecting that once you beat him at the end his true master would reveal himself and depending on just how insane it was, you could fight it yourself or the Maker would show up and there'd be a few minutes of two gods beating the **** out of each other.

[Uhh.. Jonah]

His minions were greater villains than him. Erimond exploited an entire sacred order, and what did Cory do? **** up. A lot.