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This is why I do not say Quizzy because of the anchor and focus more on their class/skillset.

Even if you do that you still can't say that templar hawke/inq will defeat mage inq/hawke because mage still can defeat templar same for any other class or specialization so pretty much it goes to i prefer hawke/inq so he wins.

 

 

Dude, I've literally melted crowds of people with that thing.

 

I never saw inquisitor melting anyone.



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And I'll remind you, the advisers don't change anything about the inquisitors abilities in a quizzy vs hawke scenario, no matter what you think about who does the most work.

 

I wasn't referring to the fight, I was referring to your dubious claim that the inquisitor had the power of a god. If the inquisitor really had the power of a god, he wouldn't need all the armies,money and ect to win. The artefact that gives him power, has immense power, but not ultimate power.

 



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Even if you do that you still can't say that templar hawke/inq will defeat mage inq/hawke because mage still can defeat templar same for any other class or specialization so pretty much it goes to i prefer hawke/inq so he wins.

Which is a sad truth. But I would say that a Templar Hawke/Inquisitor has a chance against the mage opposite due to the way a Templar is supposed to work.



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I wasn't referring to the fight, I was referring to your dubious claim that the inquisitor had the power of a god. If the inquisitor really had the power of a god, he wouldn't need all the armies,money and ect to win. The artefact that gives him power, has immense power, but not ultimate power.

 

 

I'm not really interested in your argument of semantics. Solas is an elven god. Your mark is the key to his mojo. Power of a god. By the definition from the game, which is all that matters, really. This isn't Christianity, these are more akin to olympian gods.



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I never saw inquisitor melting anyone.

The fade rift ability can literally disintegrate enemies... demons and otherwise. I did this to a crowd of venatori and templars, undead, etc. Then of course there's corypheus, who we opened a rift inside of.

 

I seriously feel like I've been playing a different game from everyone else, lol.



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The fade rift ability can literally disintegrate enemies... demons and otherwise. I did this to a crowd of venatori and templars, undead, etc. Then of course there's corypheus, who we opened a rift inside of.

 

I seriously feel like I've been playing a different game from everyone else, lol.

This is gameplay going by that i would say that my arcane warrior warden was immortal cus nothing rly could harm him and using gamplay battle would only make sense if game used same mechanic so you can't rly even do that.



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This is gameplay going by that i would say that my arcane warrior warden was immortal cus nothing rly could harm him and using gamplay battle would only make sense if game used same mechanic so you can't rly even do that.

Except that the gameplay is supported by the cutscene with corypheus, and the game trailers, whereas for hawke it isn't. And neither is that badass stuff he used against the arishok.

 

Actually, the inquisitor is the very first protagonist in Dragon Age that can and does do everything he can in the trailers, also in the game.

 

And Inquisitor has both knight enchanter and Champion, so even with gameplay minus the anchor....



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Except that the gameplay is supported by the cutscene with corypheus, and the game trailers, whereas for hawke it isn't. And neither is that badass stuff he used against the arishok.

 

Actually, the inquisitor is the very first protagonist in Dragon Age that can and does do everything he can in the trailers, also in the game.

 

And Inquisitor has both knight enchanter and Champion, so even with gameplay minus the anchor....

From what i remember inq had to defeat corry in order to send him to the fade not just kill him in an instant....

 

Well and hawke have blood mage and berserker so?



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I believe the inquisitor could beat hawke 1 on 1. The mark gives her a boost though



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From what i remember inq had to defeat corry in order to send him to the fade not just kill him in an instant....

 

Well and hawke have blood mage and berserker so?

You were the one that brought up good classes. So I brought up two that are better.

 

Obviously they couldn't have him kill the final boss in one go.... But lets take this piece by piece.

 

Go by trailers? Arishok had Hawke dead to rights before he used some bullshit that's not even in the game. The inquisitor kills a pride demon, an entire pride demon, with a sweep of his hand.... and that's in game. Inquisitor 1, Hawke 0.

 

Go by story? The Inquisitor eviscerates a godlike being and turns him inside out. Hawke got a bunch of people killed and defeated some mad templar that was gonna self destruct anyway. And he released said godlike being in the first place. Inquisitor 2, Hawke 0.

 

Go by gameplay and you have an ability that disintegrates crowds of enemies... ignoring class and all that since both have very powerful classes, Hawke has nothing truly special at his disposal like that... Inquisitor 3, Hawke 0.

 

 

There is no contest here.



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You were the one that brought up good classes. So I brought up two that are better.

 

Obviously they couldn't have him kill the final boss in one go.... But lets take this piece by piece.

 

Go by trailers? Arishok had Hawke dead to rights before he used some bullshit that's not even in the game. The inquisitor kills a pride demon, an entire pride demon, with a sweep of his hand.... and that's in game. Inquisitor 1, Hawke 0.

 

Go by story? The Inquisitor eviscerates a godlike being and turns him inside out. Hawke got a bunch of people killed and defeated some mad templar that was gonna self destruct anyway. And he released said godlike being in the first place. Inquisitor 2, Hawke 0.

 

Go by gameplay and you have an ability that disintegrates crowds of enemies... ignoring class and all that since both have very powerful classes, Hawke has nothing truly special at his disposal like that... Inquisitor 3, Hawke 0.

 

 

There is no contest here.

I brougt 1 class (specialization) to mock that you can't judge it by gameplay otherwise the warden is immortal.

1.As i said it doesn't look like if inq kills pride demon in trailer he simple uses fade rift to vanish all demons that went trought it he didn't fight them.And yep hawke can do what he did in trailer in game it is pretty much crushing prison animation that sometimes occurs in da 2.

 

2.You know that Hawke defeated corry as well in fact hawke pretty much fought with pretty much same things that inq fought with some exceptions but inq got more enemies for example inq got 10 high dragons hawke only 1 but who said hawke couldn't kill 10 high dragons if he had opportunity.

 

3.As i said gameplay and doing gameplay battle is pointless as they are way to different in da 2 and dai.



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60% of the time I leave Hawke in the Fade everytime, so she/he wasn't a total failure at least.



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I brougt 1 class (specialization) to mock that you can't judge it by gameplay otherwise the warden is immortal.

1.As i said it doesn't look like if inq kills pride demon in trailer he simple uses fade rift to vanish all demons that went trought it he didn't fight them.And yep hawke can do what he did in trailer in game it is pretty much crushing prison animation that sometimes occurs in da 2.

 

2.You know that Hawke defeated corry as well in fact hawke pretty much fought with pretty much same things that inq fought with some exceptions but inq got more enemies for example inq got 10 high dragons hawke only 1 but who said hawke couldn't kill 10 high dragons if he had opportunity.

 

3.As i said gameplay and doing gameplay battle is pointless as they are way to different in da 2 and dai.

Well it failed, because so is the inquisitor, and that resilience isn't canon. The Inquisitor's power however, is.

 

Vanish, kill, tomato tomato, Hawke is still dead.

 

Hawke defeated Corry and he came back.

 

Gameplay or no gameplay, Hawke still can't disintegrate crowds of dudes. Quizzy still wins.

 

Notice which character has to be defended... there's a reason for that. Hawke has nothing special about him.



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60% of the time I leave Hawke in the Fade everytime, so she/he wasn't a total failure at least.

Lol there's that, yes. :lol: It's almost insulting that people compare Hawke to the Inquisitor. The Warden would be a better challenge. Hawke... Hawke doesn't do jack.


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Can my quizzy & Hawke have a duel instead? On the beach with the waves crashing onto their bodies.
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Hawke will always win based on personality. I want to love Quizzy but he/she barely has charisma comparing to Hawke.  

 

But my Inquisitor wins on two fronts: 

 

1. She was a Knight-Enchanter. Boom

 

2. Better boyfriend  :lol: Only Fenris, Anders, and Sebastian were available to my Hawke, and all three are obvious trainwrecks (even if she went the other way, Isabela and Merill weren't any less problematic lol) and of course my girl just had to end up with the terrorist. My Inquisitor is with the Commander of the Inquisition's forces. Boom. 


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I'm not really interested in your argument of semantics. Solas is an elven god. Your mark is the key to his mojo. Power of a god. By the definition from the game, which is all that matters, really. This isn't Christianity, these are more akin to olympian gods.

 

Solas needed the anchor to do something, but it was not the 'key to his mojo'. The inquisitor is neither a god in the olympian sense, either. The inquisitor was just a mortal in the wrong/right place at the wrong/right time that caught a magical artifact of energy. The anchor is quite capable of breaking.

 

The Inquisitor is not even close to a god, wether it be an olympian god or monotheistic god.



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Solas needed the anchor to do something, but it was not the 'key to his mojo'. The inquisitor is neither a god in the olympian sense, either. The inquisitor was just a mortal in the wrong/right place at the wrong/right time that caught a magical artifact of energy.

I was talking about the elven gods not the inquisitor. Only that he had his mojo.

 

And yes, the key is the key to his power, as the key controls the orb, and that is the source of his godlike power. That is why he merges with Flemeth, because his orb is destroyed, and he needs to regain his strength some other way.

 

I didn't say the Inquisitor (was) a God. Only that he had a god's power, which is true. The key is a part of Solas' power. Simple as pie.



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Well it failed, because so is the inquisitor, and that resilience isn't canon. The Inquisitor's power however, is.

 

Vanish, kill, tomato tomato, Hawke is still dead.

 

Hawke defeated Corry and he came back.

 

Gameplay or no gameplay, Hawke still can't disintegrate crowds of dudes. Quizzy still wins.

 

Notice which character has to be defended... there's a reason for that. Hawke has nothing special about him.

Anchor is canon Not that he can disintegrate anyone using it in combat or crowds if he could 1 hit-kill corry why he didn't do that then?

 

Yes he still defeated corry and if not that inq was saved by plot in that corry was dumb enough to create weakness inq wouldn't be able kill him as well.

 

Well yes in fact it does matter if inq can dis crowds only in gameplay. :whistle:

 

He has his skills same for inq and that makes them special of course inq have still anchor but as i said it does very little in combat and as far it only worked on corry as finisher move after he was defated he didn't insta killed him with that.
 



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Lol there's that, yes. :lol: It's almost insulting that people compare Hawke to the Inquisitor. The Warden would be a better challenge. Hawke... Hawke doesn't do jack.

 

You clearly never played DA2, if you say hawke did Jack. Hawke does more than jack, and he/she can do it on their own without the three babysitters and solas. The Warden and hawke earnd their reputation, without the need of catching a conduit ball of energy.



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You clearly never played DA2, if you say hawke did Jack. Hawke does more than jack, and he/she can do it on their own without the three babysitters and solas. The Warden and hawke earnd their reputation, without the need of catching a conduit ball of energy.

The only thing hawke did was watch a city burn while everyone he loved and cared for left him or died. I played DA 2, and got all the DLC. Hawke sucked.

 

Now, I can appreciate that the devs basically wanted him to be the hero that tries his best and fails, but he does fail... almost everywhere. Even when he killed the arishok, the qunari were going to die anyway and they still killed the vicount. Boo.

 

 

Anchor is canon Not that he can disintegrate anyone using it in combat or crowds if he could 1 hit-kill corry why he didn't do that then?

 

Yes he still defeated corry and if not that inq was saved by plot in that corry was dumb enough to create weakness inq wouldn't be able kill him as well.

 

Well yes in fact it does matter if inq can dis crowds only in gameplay. :whistle:

 

He has his skills same for inq and that makes them special of course inq have still anchor but as i said it does very little in combat and as far it only worked on corry as finisher move after he was defated he didn't insta killed him with that.
 

Because that'd make for a boring bossfight, lol

 

Make the excuse you wish, but Hawke failed, inquisitor didn't.

 

And Hawke can't do it at all, so :whistle:

 

None of it trumps the power of a god.

 

End.



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Because that'd make for a boring bossfight, lol

 

Make the excuse you wish, but Hawke failed, inquisitor didn't.

 

And Hawke can't do it at all, so :whistle:

 

None of it trumps the power of a god.

 

End.

And yet he neither does that during party ambush when he uses his power open fade rift not to disintegrate them so as far no prove besides gameplay of such ability.

 

Yes he failed but as i said it doesn't affect/proves hawke combat abilities that he defated him does as i said if not that corry pretty much created own weakness inq would just defeat corry not kill him same as hawke.  

 

As i said that my arrcane warrior is immortal in gameplay doesn't mean he is in story same with inq gameplay skills. 

 

Inq isn't god and neither s/he have god-like powers.



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Hawke has a brooding elf man for a lover. A warrior elf at that! Warrior elves are hot. And they run barefoot. Great for your back.

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Without the anchor I still think my mage Inquisitor Trevelyan would beat Hawke without a sweat. She seems a lot more talented although she's younger. She farms dragons...DRAGONS! I mean it was clear when Hawke was with her during their dance around the fade...Hawke was throwing puny fireballs while Trevelyan was like...obliterating demons.

 

Hawke's future is like: Run around adventuring with her elf lover until she's super old and gray. Kids are not in her picture at all. 

Trevelyan's future is like: Babies everywhere with her commander-consort. Consolidate that power all to herself. She's going to build a dynasty. It's going to happen.


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And yet he neither does that during party ambush when he uses his power open fade rift not to disintegrate them so as far no prove besides gameplay of such ability.

 

Yes he failed but as i said it doesn't affect/proves hawke combat abilities that he defated him does as i said if not that corry pretty much created own weakness inq would just defeat corry not kill him same as hawke.  

 

As i said that my arrcane warrior is immortal in gameplay doesn't mean he is in story same with inq gameplay skills. 

 

Inq isn't god and neither s/he have god-like powers.

We're just gonna keep going in circles, so believe what you want.

 

But, AGAIN, I didn't say he was a god, but the mark IS Solas' power, and Solas IS a god. According to the lore. That much is not up for debate.



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Hawke has a brooding elf man for a lover. A warrior elf at that! Warrior elves are hot. And they run barefoot. Great for your back.

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Without the anchor I still think my mage Inquisitor Trevelyan would beat Hawke without a sweat. She seems a lot more talented although she's younger. She farms dragons...DRAGONS! I mean it was clear when Hawke was with her during their dance around the fade...Hawke was throwing puny fireballs while Trevelyan was like...obliterating demons.

 

Hawke's future is like: Run around adventuring with her elf lover until she's super old and gray. Kids are not in her picture at all. 

Trevelyan's future is like: Babies everywhere with her commander-consort. Consolidate that power all to herself. She's going to build a dynasty. It's going to happen.

This gal gets it.