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[wepeel_]

However, I was a bit peeved at getting thrown in there with Dorian with no skills or chance of equipping him and immediately having to fight enemies.

 

Agree with everything except this part. If anything I wish they would make you do the first half of the mission all alone, more like the fade in DAO. It's off topic, but personally I like it when the game mixes things up by throwing you into something all by yourself, pushing you to come up with ways to handle the situation. Instead it felt very predictable that by roughly the third room you had a full party again.

[errantknight]

Like many others, I find this a difficult choice every playthrough, in itself testament to good design.

 

In terms of gameplay and general feeling I prefer the mages. It feels more personal and has a better introduction, and I also feel the red templars make for better massed opponents than the venatori, as well as preferring Dorian to Cole, though such things are down to personal preference.

 

On the other hand though, there's considering the long-term consequences of the choice:

 

- If you side with the mages, you help them out, but essentially leave the templar order to get completely wiped out and converted to red templars. You also avert the threat of Alexius's dark future, but that future is caused by the inquisitor getting removed from the timeline more than anything else, so you basically avoid it by not siding with the mages in the first place. Dorian suggests that the influence of Alexius's time magic will spread on its own, but nothing seems to come of it.

 

- If you side with the templars, you help them out, but doing so also has beneficial consequences for mages in all the areas the inquisition can influence. The mages who are already in Alexius's grasp are by all accounts lost, but beyond them a restored templar order under a capable commander like Barris helps not only the templars themselves (likely to be able to weed out unsuitable elements, etc), but the remaining mages and people in general across Thedas as well, as the war table missions illustrate. It's really a chance to reforge the templars into what they should have been all along.

 

So in short it seems that siding with the mages = good for them but utterly screws the templars; whereas siding with the templars = greater good for everyone.

 

This tears at me somewhat as deep down on a personal level I really prefer the mage quest.. so I'm still undecided, every playthrough. I don't really see what people have against the time travel setup, and while I like Barris I also can't really see what makes him that special. But yeah, making my way through the future version of Redcliffe castle and seeing what becomes of everyone and everything really drives the feelings home. Maybe it's related to the quest you did in your first playthrough "sticking with you", but for me it sort of became canon.

 

Good post! Interesting analysis

[Lulupab]

Where do you think the majority of Inquisition soldiers come from? Many are Templars, those who didn't join renegade Templars or those who came to join Inquisition because they saw how low the order has fallen. At this point we choose to help one of two groups of screwed people that are doomed without our help. I don't see how a great majority of southern mages dying is greater good. It will take centuries to replace them, mages are rare.

[Seracen]

Honestly, I didn't really feel much of an impact, regardless of which side I picked, until the very end.  Upon looking back on it, I am surprised that I wasn't perturbed by the relative lack of agency there.  Mages/Templars were supposed to be what brought everything to a head...but it seemed secondary to the whole Corypheus arc (and I was okay with it).

 

I suppose that's why I prefer Calpernia to Samson.  While Samson addresses the Chantry conflict better, Calpernia seemed more directly tied to Cory's machinations.  Ah well, it's all fun either way, considering the game is worth at least 2 playthroughs.

[raging_monkey]

I liked hushed wispers mostly cause it entertains me more over the temps and i like kinda that it mirrors my inquisitions forces.

Cory and his RTs and magi

My magetrevelyan and magi with templar support

[crimzontearz]

Ok I did champion of the just....

I liked it, I like how it paints the templars as warrior scholars.

Now to see if Calpernia really is the better villain

[(Disgusted noise.)]

I did Champions of the Just once, but I'll probably only do In Hush Whispers from now on. I just find the mission more enjoyable and I vastly prefer getting to work one-on-one with Dorian and Cullen than I do working with Cole and Leliana. The only benefit to Champions of the Just to me is that Calpernia is by far a more interesting henchman and character than Samson is.