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[alwaysquestions]

 

you happen to know how attraction works? people are not attracted by personality or life history, people are attracted by the appearance.

taste, obviously plays a big part in this, but some traits are universally accepted as attractive.

 

 

I just found it ironic you were attacking Eivuwan, by arguing attractiveness would not change a character when the thread is about how unattractiveness ruined some characters.

 

Looks do matter, and that may be why David Gaider decided he wants Cassandra to not attract you immediately with her model looks but gradually with her awesome personality and cute looks. Love Cass.

[Kallas_br123]

I just found it ironic you were attacking Eivuwan, by arguing attractiveness would not change a character when the thread is about how unattractiveness ruined some characters.

 

Looks do matter, and that may be why David Gaider decided he wants Cassandra to not attract you immediately with her model looks but gradually with her awesome personality and cute looks. Love Cass.

did you read my other post??

 

yes looks mether, but man are no blinded by it, i dont find josephine particulary attractive, but i romanced her, because she is adorable.

 

but I agree, that we dint had a Li with the classic beauty and sexyness of the other games, that's why this topic and others similar to this, to let the devs know we would like  these options to return in the next games.

 

 

sorry bad english.

[Elsariel]

Cass is fantastic! I didn't think much of her looks at first but as I got to know her she became incredible. I actually rolled a dude in order to romance her and that rarely happens with me.

So much awesome.

[whitless256]

Both Cassandra and Josephine are striking from certain angles.... and certain angles not so much.    Just like most people.   I have to admit, it took a while, but Cass grew on me as well.  Sera did, too, even though she's far from model pretty. 

[Kallas_br123]

I just found it ironic you were attacking Eivuwan, by arguing attractiveness would not change a character when the thread is about how unattractiveness ruined some characters.

 

Looks do matter, and that may be why David Gaider decided he wants Cassandra to not attract you immediately with her model looks but gradually with her awesome personality and cute looks. Love Cass.

and there this agenda so many people come commenting on this topic.

A lot of people do not like to have social and political agendas pushed in our entertainment.

[alwaysquestions]

 

and there this agenda so many people come commenting on this topic.

A lot of people do not like to have social and political agendas pushed in our entertainment.

 

 

Wait so if I want to write a character who's normal looking (cause ya know, she's a warrior not a super model), I have a social agenda?

 

I think people like you have an agenda, to force writers to write characters that please you. Why don't you ever think you're the one with a political agenda trying to force writers into things?

[whitless256]

Wait so if I want to write a character who's normal looking (cause ya know, she's a warrior not a super model), I have a social agenda?

 

I think people like you have an agenda, to force writers to write characters that please you. Why don't you ever think you're the one with a political agenda trying to force writers into things?

 

This.

 

If you're claiming someone puts something in a game because "agenda," you're also claiming that the reason you have an issue with it is... "agenda."

[Maverick827]

Wait so if I want to write a character who's normal looking (cause ya know, she's a warrior not a super model), I have a social agenda?

 

I think people like you have an agenda, to force writers to write characters that please you. Why don't you ever think you're the one with a political agenda trying to force writers into things?as

 

Agendaception.

[Eivuwan]

yes of course, all men is clueless dog that think with his lower head. when we see an attractive woman we stop paying attention to personality traits and personal history, we just think of boobs.

 

/sarcasm

 

sorry bad english.

 

Whoa what? I said "might" and I never said "all men." The characters are attractive to me, just not barbie/ken-like. I just think the authors want the focus to be on personality so they didn't go with the conventional bombshell/pornstar/model etc looks which could distract from the character they want to portray. This is not to say that a conventionally pretty woman or man can't be intelligent or have an interesting personality. It's just that we have so much of that already, do we need more? I think the Bioware writers want us to appreciate different kinds of people and different types of beauty.

[Kallas_br123]

Wait so if I want to write a character who's normal looking (cause ya know, she's a warrior not a super model), I have a social agenda?

 

I think people like you have an agenda, to force writers to write characters that please you. Why don't you ever think you're the one with a political agenda trying to force writers into things?

you are reading my posts? or are just nitpicking.

 

i think cassadra is attractive, and josephine is adorable. but I understand that some people want a Li with a more classic beauty or a little more sexy.

 

and is not a agenda to expect that games as much, as movies or tv series, use beautiful people (the ocidental universal beauty standard) becouse is being used is all medias since forever.

 

but it is an agenda when you say she is nomal (as a real woman) "and you should think she is beatfull regardless"

[Kallas_br123]

Whoa what? I said "might" and I never said "all men." The characters are attractive to me, just not barbie/ken-like. I just think the authors want the focus to be on personality so they didn't go with the conventional bombshell/pornstar/model etc looks which could distract from the character they want to portray. This is not to say that a conventionally pretty woman or man can't be intelligent or have an interesting personality. It's just that we have so much of that already, do we need more? I think the Bioware writers want us to appreciate different kinds of people and different types of beauty.

no problem, your other post implied differently. at least for me.

[Eivuwan]

you are reading my posts? or are just nitpicking.

 

i think cassadra is attractive, and josephine is adorable. but I understand that some people want a Li with a more classic beauty or a little more sexy.

 

and is not a agenda to expect that games as much, as movies or tv series, use beautiful people (the ocidental universal beauty standard) becouse is being used is all medias since forever.

 

but it is an agenda when you say she is nomal (as a real woman) "and you should think she is beatfull regardless"

 

 

Why are you putting words in people's mouths? When did someone say "you SHOULD think she is beautiful regardless." sigh

[Exalus]

Cassandra is not conventionally beautiful by modern standards but more whats important you learn to like her because of her personality and character and not that she looks like some hyper sexualized barby doll from some raunchy dragon age origins mod.

 

That's so much more meaningful. 

[Kallas_br123]

Why are you putting words in people's mouths? When did someone say "you SHOULD think she is beautiful regardless." sigh

is a manner of speach not linked with the other post. but similar phrasing was used by feminist and swj's to try to change the Western beauty stardard.

and was relevant to the point I was making. I did not mean to imply that you said that.

 

Sorry bad english

[Eivuwan]

is a manner of speach not linked with the other post. but similar phrasing was used by feminist and swj's to try to change the Western beauty stardard.

and was relevant to the point I was making. I did not mean to imply that you said that.

 

Sorry bad english

 

Ideally there should be no beauty standard,

[ForgottenWarrior]

Selfcensorship will dig a big and nice grave for any kind of art much better than forced censorship.

[Kallas_br123]

Ideally there should be no beauty standard,

Ideally for whom? standards of beauty, as standards of everything, serves as aspirations, something to aim for, I see nothing wrong with that.

[taglag]

sense all you are asking is and opinion. ( exeception Lelianna )

 

 

I think the ladies in this game are, Ugly, beyond any I have ever seen in any other Bioware game. Thats just my Opinion though. I guess you could ask a people person are something.

 

  As a side note, the clothing you are allowed to put on them is also very limiting, and burlap bag in its fashion statment.

[Ashevajak]

Anyone else remember when all we had for romance options were interchangeable character models and a face portrait?

I'm starting to think those days weren't so bad.

[wolfhowwl]

Hey at least we got to see ****** in this game!

[Eivuwan]

Ideally for whom? standards of beauty, as standards of everything, serves as aspirations, something to aim for, I see nothing wrong with that.

 

There is nothing wrong with it. I just think the standards of beauty in particular are rather limiting and pointless. Sure there's exercise, diet, and skincare, but most people will never reach the whatever standard there is. In terms of beauty, it just seems that it's really more based on luck of the draw than other types of aspirations. I guess you can go for plastic surgery . Also, if you look across cultures, it's clear to me that a lot of what is considered beautiful is really cultural conditioning. Some cultures think painting your teeth black looks great. So there really is no objective standard of beauty and wouldn't the world be boring if everyone looked the same?

 

I think a lot of times people miss dating opportunities because what they consider beautiful is so limited. I use to only like the conventionally good looking people too, but after some self mental training, I am more able to appreciate all kinds of people. The types of looks that I like have been expanded several times. If you can get the conventionally good looking partner and have that partner be compatible with you in all other ways than sure, good for you. If you can't and still can't appreciate different types of looks, then well that sucks for you.

[Maverick827]

I honestly don't see Cassandra's good personality. All the evidence I ever see is that she secretly likes a certain brand of fiction, as if that makes a personality.

The Cassandra I know accused my character of murdering the Divine with no evidence, illegally detained my character, and then an hour later started believing my character was Jesus. When my character tells her he is not Jesus, and that he's not even religious, she scowls and disapproves. Non-religious people are worthy of disapproval to her. What does she think of elves that believe in their own gods?

I don't really care what little quirks she reveals later, religious intolerance is sort of a game ender for me.

[wolfhowwl]

Wrong thread, LOL!

[Liveshiptrader]

Yet this thread is evidence that a lot of people are unwilling to consider personality and character history based on the way she looks.

 

Seriously? where talking about romantic interests and for that looks matter

[Eivuwan]

Seriously? where talking about romantic interests and for that looks matter

 

It does matter. I agree with that. I can be attracted to tall guys, short guys, different races of guys etc. However, someone with poor hygiene and a big pot belly would be a turn off for me that I can't get over. However, when one demands a conventional look that few people can reach in order to be attracted to someone... Well, I find that a bit sad and limiting. Cassandra and the other ladies are attractive to me and some other players. I'm sorry that they are just not good enough for you because they fail to reach that model standard.