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[Lulupab]

There is another time magic scenario in one of the side quests. Its in Western Approach and becomes available once you take care of sulfur mine gas. The quest is called Tevinter Relic Hunt and is inside still ruins. Once inside you will see demons and Tevinter soldiers floating in mid air and not moving at all, as if its a picture. A Magister stopped time and saved himself once demons invaded. However there are codex entries and notes on time magic which can clear what happened. It can be used from future to go to the past and literally change the past, and once changed only the traveler(s) remember what exactly happened. Based on this info...

 
1. First of all Fiona meets us at the capital. That's her, not a demon. She invites us to Redcliff as grand enchanter of rebel mages to strike a deal with Inquisition.
 
2. At this point, in an unchanged future perhaps the inquisition goes to redcliff and simply makes a deal with mages, or maybe not. The fact is Alexius used time magic to reach Redcliff before Inquisition. Fiona never goes to the capital (although the inquisitor remembers it, its simply a memory now and it didn't happen). But if the inquisition went and made a deal with mages, no one in the inquisition will remember the visit to redcliff. Meeting fiona in the capital was outside of radius of time magic and since Fiona moves in the time herself she doesn't remember it but the Inquisitor does.
 
3. Alexius arrives at a crucial time and perfectly fakes an imminent Templar invasion and the Templars do attack, during which mages and people of redcliff alike get injured and killed. The People of Redcliff and mages alike truly believe there will be a Templar invasion. Even Connor believes it but he rather die than to ally with Tevinter. The exact scenario is the people and mages are desperately waiting for the invasion to happen, powerless to do anything about it, in this desperate moment Alexius comes with the offer. I mean if there was actually an invasion (which they didn't know there wasn't) allying with Alexius was the right decision.

 

4. This spoiler is full of images I gathered showing what I just explained

 

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[SgtSteel91]

Also want to add that Alexius came to Redcliff two days after the Conclave was destroyed.

[RobRam10]

Blessed be Alexius.

[LightningPoodle]

But if Alexius travelled to Redcliffe before Fiona met The Herald, that event would never have taken place. So The Herald would have absolutely no recollection of it happening - because it never did - yet they do, so we have a plot hole on our hands.

[Master Warder Z_]

That magic is going to ruin the series.

But anyway...decent staff at the end of it.

Nothing more to be said.

Also citing the ravings of a pre blight nut doesn't make Fiona less of a tool.

[renfrees]

Time magic's a poor concept regardless.

[TEWR]

It's worth saying that if you pick the upper right dialogue option when talking with Redcliffe Fiona, she admits she feels... strange.

 

So what, Fiona traveled back in time sometime after the Inquisition allied with her and stopped Alexius to get the Inquisition to ally with her and stop Alexius? If so, then it's a Stable Time Loop.

 

Though it would make me question how Fiona got her hands on that magic.

[Lulupab]

But if Alexius travelled to Redcliffe before Fiona met The Herald, that event would never have taken place. So The Herald would have absolutely no recollection of it happening - because it never did - yet they do, so we have a plot hole on our hands.

 

I know its confusing but the time magic only affects the memories and events in Redcliff and people from it. Fiona has no memory of it because she was moved in the time. The Time magic in DA:I is not global that is why its destroying the balance, as Dorian puts it. If the Inquisitor went to Redcliff before Alexius then he would have no memory of it. But if the inquisitor did other things outside of redcliff in the same day he went to Redcliff he would remember them. Yeah way too confusing but I got it after some brain explosions.

[Broganisity]

...Did anyone try the ham they had at camp yesterday? get some strange Doctor Who vibe out of this whole ordeal?

Because I did, but I've never seen the show but now it feels like I have and I blame Time Magic. *hand waves the issue* Time magic!

[Master Warder Z_]

Blessed be Alexius.

He's a handy little tranquil to my Dalish Mage.

Sweeping the floor and such!

Such a good little pet.

[Lulupab]

That magic is going to ruin the series.

But anyway...decent staff at the end of it.

Nothing more to be said.

Also citing the ravings of a pre blight nut doesn't make Fiona less of a tool.

 

Well, gotta admit Alexius was VERY convincing. He made the whole town a tool, not just Fiona.

[LightningPoodle]

I know its confusing but the time magic only affects the memories and events in Redcliff and people from it. Fiona has no memory of it because she was moved in the time. The Time magic in DA:I is not global that is why its destroying the balance, as Dorian puts it. If the Inquisitor went to Redcliff before Alexius then he would have no memory of it. But if the inquisitor did other things outside of redcliff in the same day he went to Redcliff he would remember them. Yeah way too confusing but I got it after some brain explosions.

 

So the whole mission in Redcliffe was just happening in Redcliffe? The rest of the world had not fallen to Corypheus and demons - which is stated in the mission that it had. This makes no sense.

[RobRam10]

He's a handy little tranquil to my Dalish Mage.

Sweeping the floor and such!

Such a good little pet.

In your world perhaps.

In mine he continues his Divine Work for the Inquisition.

[Master Warder Z_]

Well, gotta admit Alexius was VERY convincing. He made the whole town a tool, not just Fiona.

...not really.

It's a situation that would have resolved itself had they bothered to look out a window.

The order would be recalled, the hinterlands abandoned and things would have been punky bruster.

But no for some odd asinine reason they don't bother to follow up or do any method of actually confirming the tale.

Makes me wonder Just how the rebellion lasted that long.

[Master Warder Z_]

In your world perhaps.
In mine he continues his Divine Work for the Inquisition.

o.o why bother treating garbage besides as garbage?

[Lulupab]

So the whole mission in Redcliffe was just happening in Redcliffe? The rest of the world had not fallen to Corypheus and demons - which is stated in the mission that it had. This makes no sense.

 

Alexius sent us and Dorian a year forward INSIDE RECLIFF. The whole year passed, do not doubt it, however the Inquisitor was not present in a whole year so no one stopped Corypheus.

[Lulupab]

o.o why bother treating garbage besides as garbage?

 

He becomes a drooling zombie after Felix dies anyhow, better put his knowledge to use and make him research magic for the Inquisition. 

 

...not really.

It's a situation that would have resolved itself had they bothered to look out a window.

The order would be recalled, the hinterlands abandoned and things would have been punky bruster.

But no for some odd asinine reason they don't bother to follow up or do any method of actually confirming the tale.

Makes me wonder Just how the rebellion lasted that long.

 

Well we can't really linger on what ifs. The tale was confirmed a lot of times, by beaten up and barely surviving mage refugees who came to redcliff and confirmed the "tales". These refugees happened to be Venatori agents.

[LightningPoodle]

Alexius sent us and Dorian a year forward INSIDE RECLIFF. The whole year passed, do not doubt it, however the Inquisitor was not present in a whole year so no one stopped Corypheus.

 

This is mind-f*cking me. I'm done.

 

[Shadow Fox]

o.o why bother treating garbage besides as garbage?

...Look at his sig.

[Lulupab]

This is mind-f*cking me. I'm done.

 

 

Well I was the same. Just adding this too, he doesn't fast forward the time. He removes the inquisitor from existence and puts him in a the next year. He didn't exist for a whole year.

[KaiserShep]

That magic is going to ruin the series.

I suspect we won't be seeing it again.

[Master Warder Z_]

Well we can't really linger on what ifs. The tale was confirmed a lot of times, by beaten up and barely surviving mage refugees who came to redcliff and confirmed the "tales". These refugees happened to be Venatori agents.

That's not confirming anything o.o

That's hearing speculation.

Unless if those mages happened to somehow know for certain a mass attack was coming in the aftermath of the conclave which militarily speaking makes no sense.

They lost as many people there as the mages.

[_Lucinia]

I suspect we won't be seeing it again.

We shouldn't be.  The time magic was only possible because of the breach.  Alexius was supposed to stop the Inquisitor before the conclave, but because the breach didn't exist yet he couldn't go back in time before it happened (I believe that was the outcome during the Champions of the Just when you side with the Templars).  No breach, no time magic.

 

Unless the writers decide to change the rules, that was the only time we'll see time magic since the breach is now closed.

[Lulupab]

That's not confirming anything o.o

That's hearing speculation.

Unless if those mages happened to somehow know for certain a mass attack was coming in the aftermath of the conclave which militarily speaking makes no sense.

They lost as many people there as the mages.

 
Well you're right to some extent, the mages cannot be shown as completely innocent. There has to be flaws. My point is there is nothing indicating the Templars are not attacking, other than doubt itself. But there are a lot of evidence (planted and fake) that Templars will atack.
 

We shouldn't be.  The time magic was only possible because of the breach.  Alexius was supposed to stop the Inquisitor before the conclave, but because the breach didn't exist yet he couldn't go back in time before it happened (I believe that was the outcome during the Champions of the Just when you side with the Templars).  No breach, no time magic.
 
Unless the writers decide to change the rules, that was the only time we'll see time magic since the breach is now closed.

 
Indeed. There was a rift in the Tevinter ruin as well and it was the power source for the time magic used there as well. No rift, no time magic.

[Wolfen09]

He's a handy little tranquil to my Dalish Mage.

Sweeping the floor and such!

Such a good little pet.

 

 

wait...  did i just hear that right?  warder rolled a mage?!  ok, need to think, worlds ending wtf do i do.