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is the Architect actually a Tevinter Magister of old?


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I say this as many other people im sure have noticed a strike similarities in appearance between the Architect and Corypheus

 

So while on a repeat playthrough of inquisition listening to Corypheus's memories he mentions he doesn't know what came of the other 6 magisters after they all took the taint leaving alot to speculation whether they were slain or still around somewhere

its possible that the taint may have affected them all differently giving them all unique powers but if it affected them all similarly then all of them may have the same revive ability as Corypheus

 

now about the Architect he doesnt know where he came from and just shrugs it off that he's probably a mutant darkspawn but what if he was an old magistar like corypheus with the same revival ability but was slain under unique circumstances which caused him to be revived with no memory?

 

to him he will have just been "born" among his own kind with no reason to think otherwise as we see in awakening
 

but what do you lot think? is he just a darkspawn? some kind of mutant baby throwback to the original darkspawn? Tevinter Magister of old? or something else?



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I think he is one of the anicent magisters. It just seems unlikley that something so similar to a confirmed magister of old would just spawn out of the blue.


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I think so, probably one of the more minor ones, like he may not have been one of The Seven, but a subservient Altus or Magister or something to one of them.  Recall that Corypheus had no idea what the heck was going on when he first woke up too, it's possible that given enough time The Architect may have come into his own and remembered who and what he was.

 

Also, while Corypheus needed the dragon (with part of himself inside it) to be reborn suuuuuper fast like he did at the Temple of Mythal, Corypheus was still able to survive from Hawke killing him by possessing a nearby Grey Warden, this was before he made the Dragon Horcrux.

 

Which means that if the Architect is -also- one of the first, then he probably also can do that.  Meaning he's alive no matter what choice you made in Awakening.  And despite being weaker, I think the Architect is more shrewd and intelligent than Cory, so if he's been planning and waiting these last 7 years or so...

 

Well, ****.


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I think so, probably one of the more minor ones, like he may not have been one of The Seven, but a subservient Altus or Magister or something to one of them.  Recall that Corypheus had no idea what the heck was going on when he first woke up too, it's possible that given enough time The Architect may have come into his own and remembered who and what he was.

 

Also, while Corypheus needed the dragon (with part of himself inside it) to be reborn suuuuuper fast like he did at the Temple of Mythal, Corypheus was still able to survive from Hawke killing him by possessing a nearby Grey Warden, this was before he made the Dragon Horcrux.

 

Which means that if the Architect is -also- one of the first, then he probably also can do that.  Meaning he's alive no matter what choice you made in Awakening.  And despite being weaker, I think the Architect is more shrewd and intelligent than Cory, so if he's been planning and waiting these last 7 years or so...

 

Well, ****.

wouldn't anyone other than the seven just become a normal ghoul?

 

but thats what I thought if he's garenteed to be alive not only can he be important in the plot of a future dragon age but the only choice we had was either give him more time expirementing or ****** him off........



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And here we go again... :bandit:

 

 

Please read the Calling plp. Seriously.



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And here we go again... :bandit:


Please read the Calling plp. Seriously.

It's pretty obvious from his design and intelligence that he's a magister. Nothing in the calling disproves it.
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does the calling explain the Architect's origin/birth?

ive read the mass effect novels but not the dragon age novels and nothing on wiki hints at his creation other than his vague response in DA: Awakening



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does the calling explain the Architect's origin/birth?

ive read the mass effect novels but not the dragon age novels and nothing on wiki hints at his creation other than his vague response in DA: Awakening


It sort of does. The architect basically explains his origin. It just has to be wrong.
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And here we go again... :bandit:

 

 

Please read the Calling plp. Seriously.

 

As far as I remember (it's been a while) nothing in The Calling disproves the idea that he could have been one of the Magisters.  He believes he is Darkspawn (technically, so is Corypheus, now), because he simply "woke up" one day, and was as he is.  Him having no memory and appearing as he does could mean that, yes, he is simply a mutant, or he could be a magister, with no memory of what came before.


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Yeah.There's some David Gaider interview floating around the net , where he says the Architect is an old magister.

 

Edit : from http://shallowgraves...n-age-universe/

 

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Yeah.There's some David Gaider interview floating around the net , where he says the Architect is an old magister.

 

Ah, thanks, yeah found it.

 


In the Dragon Age 2 downloadable content, Legacy, players discover that Corypheus, an ancient darkspawn, was one of the original Tevinter magisters. I asked David Gaider if the Architect of Dragon Age: Awakening is also a former magister, and if he’ll play a part in upcoming events in the DA universe.
 
“Yeah,” Gaider agreed, “he is the same type of character as Corypheus, absolutely. Whether he pops up, well, possibly. I think so… I mean, obviously not if you killed him.”
 
Though this sounds like he might appear in Inquisition, maybe not: “I don’t know that we have any plans for him right now.”
 

 


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Yeah.There's some David Gaider interview floating around the net , where he says the Architect is an old magister.

 

Edit : from http://shallowgraves...n-age-universe/

nice link and interesting he confirms hes a magistar(but could still change as its not canon confirmed) but doesnt confirm his ability to revive which at that time we didn't know of Corypheus's revival ability either so makes sense



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No he is not from tevinter he is from Orlais



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 I've thought he was magister since Awakening. He looks rather similar to Corypheus, he doesn't know what he is or why he's different and he also wields magic. I wouldn't be surprised if he is one really.



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Yes.

In Awakening he is lying, because it is hard enough to make others trust him when he's just a Darkspawn...imagine what happens if he confesses that he is one of the original Darkspawn, or he's actually forgotten everything.

There's also a codex entry in Valammar about a different type of Darkspawn which contains a story about a dwarf seeing Darkspawn dressed as magisters in the Deep Roads. I made a thread about it.


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Yes.
In Awakening he is lying, because it is hard enough to make others trust him when he's just a Darkspawn...imagine what happens if he confesses that he is one of the original Darkspawn, or he's actually forgotten everything.
There's also a codex entry in Valammar about a different type of Darkspawn which contains a story about a dwarf seeing Darkspawn dressed as magisters in the Deep Roads. I made a thread about it.


He may have legitimately lost his memory. That's why he thinks he's a darkspawn IMO. Like Shale.
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Same type of character in no way means "they are both ancient tevinter magisters who attempted to enter the golden city" suggesting that is putting words into David's mouth (I hear he is not too fond of that)


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Definately an old magister. There is no other explination for it really



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Same type of character in no way means "they are both ancient tevinter magisters who attempted to enter the golden city" suggesting that is putting words into David's mouth (I hear he is not too fond of that)

 

Pretty much. It would be similar to calling both Leliana and Zevran "the same type of character" meaning they are both bisexual rogues in Origins whose story partially involves trying to move beyond their past with the help of the Warden. However, the truth is that they are much different characters and it is a mistake to assume they are identical without seeking further clarification.



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Would make sense for him to be one, the only other thing could be this he once ate a grey warden and woke up...but if that was the case would be more of them really.

So think he is the same has cory just got different punishments apart from being darkspawn and unlike cory hasn't recovered his memory.



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Hope so. Would love to hate him even more.

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This is worth a read, for those interested.

 

Codex Entry: A Different Kind of Darkspawn

 

Said he once came upon a group of three darkspawn in the Deeper Roads, each twice the size of any Dwarf - bigger than Humans, even - and dressed up like kings. He watched from the shadows and said they talked, like people, about things he couldn't understand. A city gone black, and they blamed each other for things but could barely remember for what. My Mam was like that: never remembered the slight, just that she was angry. Story goes they attacked each other, and one ran off while the second choked the third to death and then ate him.

 

The Magisters didn't all remember what happened - makes sense that the Architect wouldn't. 


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 I've thought he was magister since Awakening. He looks rather similar to Corypheus, he doesn't know what he is or why he's different and he also wields magic. I wouldn't be surprised if he is one really.

I think these two shop at the same store. No doubt they'd be super embarrassed at the darkspawn mixers, finding that they both wore the same creepy shoulder things.


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I hoped that they planned the Architect as an ancient magister and just haven't revealed that yet. Architect is quite interesting ...


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I hoped that they planned the Architect as an ancient magister and just haven't revealed that yet. Architect is quite interesting ...

And even if he is killed in the playthrough, they can just say he had the same "resurrection" powers as Corypheus.


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