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Josephine cheats, doesn't she?


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#26
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We need to put her in a game with Fenris. He's apparently the card shark of Hawke's group.



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We need to put her in a game with Fenris. He's apparently the card shark of Hawke's group.

 

It's the magical fisting thing. It makes cheating easier.



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I think the developer would get tons of complain if she's the one get naked...

 

I wouldn't complain :P



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I don't think she cheated. And she only says that to a romanced inquisitor if you win. You have to call the bluff at the beginning of the scene, and then try to win your money back at the end in order to get the winning outcome. 



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Damnit why couldn't I cheat =( My Warden got to cheat in wicked grace, stealing cards from the deck or even Isabelas own hand!
...Least I can cheat at chess with cullen =)



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What card game are we talking about? I never encountered this, except for the chess game...

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After you complete Varric's personal quest, the next time you speak to him you should get a long (and quite amusing) cutscene where you go to play Wicked Grace with a bunch of the inner circle.  Josie plays sweet and innocent but it turns out she is very, very good at Thedosian poker!  Cullen, on the other hand...bless his heart.



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About Josephine...

Leliana is like Black Widow, Josephine is like Nick Fury. Her secrets have secrets. But she is so many levels above Fury that she even manages to be an innocent Disney Princess to everybody despite ruling Thedas and the Fade. No one can top Josephine as a spymaster.



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Warden Commander Aeducan

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What card game are we talking about? I never encountered this, except for the chess game...

Surely you cannot miss this after complete Varric's personal quest.  :blink:

 



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I was alarmed when Cullen lost even if playing fairly. He's supposed to be GOOD at strategy. My jaw dropped and I said aloud, "This guy shouldn't be the commander!" 

 

But yeah, I think he let her win now.

 

War strategy is different from strategy when playing card games. Though trying to hard to beat someone who has already shown that she's completely outclassing you is foolish no matter what. 


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What card game are we talking about? I never encountered this, except for the chess game...

 

One of the conversations with Varric at Skyhold late in the game can lead to a scene with most of the companions & advisors playing Wicked Grace. In order to get it you have to complete Varric's personal quest, and probably have high approval with him as well. 



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I got the impression that she hustled everyone, but not necessarily cheated - she just played into people's expectations that she was a naive, silly girl who wouldn't know how to play.  But she played The Game in Orlais for awhile, so of course she's good at cards (and bluffing).

 

I am quite sure Cullen let me win at chess to get into my ugly pyjama pants though (spoiler alert: it totes worked.)

 

Correct, in fact in one of the War Table missions, (something concerning Varric / Hard in Hightown) he says "first off, you play a mean hand of wicked grace" while writing to Josephine. She was definitely acting like she didn't know what she was doing, clever ambassador xD


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If it was Yugioh they challenged me to my inquisitor would have kicked every ones a55 ;-;



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Spoilers for card game scene:

 

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She can cheat/out play people more often if it means someone ends up losing their clothes! Hilarious!



#40
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Different situations. I am pretty good at playing strategy games that need different counters and large maps and large rulebooks, but when it comes to games like chess or go which operate on bare pattern recognition strategy I lose it pretty quickly. I'm also pretty good at cards, including counting. Reverse those for my husband - he's good at chess and go, not so good at large strategy games and he can play cards all right but not as well as I can.

 

You can also have different strengths at games, too. You can excel at reactive strategy or you can be good at planning a strategy through successive turns.

 

So just because Cullen doesn't play cards well which is much more complicated than just counting the cards and playing them right but also involves being able to read your opponents' body language (something any good diplomat is going to excel at but a general won't necessarily), doesn't mean he isn't very good at knowing troop strengths, capabilities and seeing the patterns of movements and terrain and how to counter those things.



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Yes...she is a total hustler

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What I love is that the Seeker of Truth can't keep her mouth shut about her hand :lol: Cassandra is adorable. :wub: :wub: :wub:


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#43
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If only those who romanced her got to play a private game with her... because even if you lost, you'd still kinda win?

 

:lol:


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Depends on how she chooses to handle it ...



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Gambit458

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I think the developer would get tons of complain if she's the one get naked...

Sounds like someone hasn't seen Cassandra's romance scene



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How do you trigger this scene of card playing?

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Gambit458

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How do you trigger this scene of card playing?

Talk to Varric. I forget when it happens but it's when you're at Skyhold. Just keep talking to Varric every now and then and he'll ask you if you want to play a game



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Card games are more about psychology than strategy.

Cullen shows time and again that he's a very straightforward guy who is completely incapable of reading other people.

Josi...well, diplomacy is about guessing other people's hand without showing yours. Also, she was a bard. So this should come naturally to her.



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Talk to Varric. I forget when it happens but it's when you're at Skyhold. Just keep talking to Varric every now and then and he'll ask you if you want to play a game

 
I missed it in my first run.
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#50
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I think she misrepresented her skill at cards, which isn't really cheating.

Yes, Josie is a card shark, lol