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[ImDedicatedToMyApologies]

Well I haven't progressed too far into the game (only lv10 atm) so my opinion could be very wrong, but I have felt like two-handing warriors are simply better than other classes.

They are obviously much more tanky, their damage-dealing potential is only slightly lower than other classes, and they can prime and detonate combos - moreover there does not seem to be stun-immune enemies, whereas other classes' primers could fail on specific targets.

Obviously being melee means they cannot avoid taking damage altogether (disregarding guard), but well someone needs to draw off aggro's. I cannot imagine what it would be like to use a team without a warrior.

 

Please prove me wrong.

 

[AlexMBrennan]

They are obviously much more tanky

Two handed warriors are much more tanky than sword and shield? Please do elaborate

Obviously being melee means they cannot avoid taking damage altogether (disregarding guard), but well someone needs to draw off aggro's.

So, a two handed warrior who cannot avoid damage entirely is a better tank than a sword and shield dude who gets unlimited guard?

I cannot imagine what it would be like to use a team without a warrior

Meh. Your tank isn't going to be able to aggro everyone, and without a mage a single stray arrow means you'll have to waste a potion to heal that rogue up to full health. If pressed, I'd go with a knight enchanter and no warrior, rather than vice versa

[Feranel]

No. I think they did a good job this time around and making all the classes feel balanced.especially when compared to the companions, the player will definitely feel very powerful and very skilled at what they do once they get the hang of their particular class and spec.

You feel as though two hander warrior is powerful because you've gotten good at playing it and figured out a spec that works well for you. I can assure you that if you try to different classes say, a dual wield Rogue or some form of mage, that once you got the hang of the class and found a specialization that works for you, you would feel just as powerful.

[X Equestris]

Two-handers can be pretty easily wrecked by ranged attacks. Compare that to sword and shield warriors who can protect themselves from those sort of things AND generate guard through the use of Shield Wall.

[Molohk]

1. All classes can prime and detonate combos. FYI, if your warrior is detonating his own stuns, you're not being very optimal, much better to detonate for cross-class combos.
2. Being tank sure is convenient, but I don't see how that's relevant against a mage or archer who shouldn't even get hit (if played well, or a dagger rogue for that matter). If tankiness is a critical factor, then you can't really beat W&S. And some might argue that a Knight Enchanter mage is even more tanky than a 2H warrior.
3. There are plenty of videos with other classes soloing even against dragons. That proves it IS possible to run without a warrior. In fact, there are more documented solo rogues than warrior.
4. Of course a well balanced group needs a warrior, but it also needs a mage and a rogue. So which is better?
5. It's not really valid to claim a class is better, just because it excels at a certain aspect. By your logic I could claim dagger rogues are the better class because of their burst damage + stealth. Or mage are best class because of their utility.

 

I'm glad you're enjoying your warrior, but at level 10 you're probably not even fully specialized. I really recommend playing a few fully specialzed classes before committing to a comparative opinion.

[ashwind]

I wont call them 2H warriors tanky. Attracting the attention of a bunch of darn Wraiths will give them a very bad time especially if they are standing on hard to reach places.

 

I like 2H warrior most because they are simply fun XD

[teks]

I never thought I'd hear someone say two-handed is the best. Not arguing, just, never thought I'd hear it.

[Greenface21]

I see you haven't met the despair demon yet... 

[OynxDragon666]

Giants are the bane of the two-handed warrior, on any difficulty they will be pummeled into dust. while the sword and shield warrior takes almost no health damage with enough guard producing abilities.

[WJC3688]

Giants' attacks are easily baited and then dodged with combat roll ad infinitum, letting your other party go to town on him while he chases you around. Now a 2H might have a harder time soloing one, but they remain quite effective at just "tanking" it.

[ImDedicatedToMyApologies]

it IS possible to run without a warrior

well obviously I was expecting to be wrong: my point being that taunt is such a powerful CC that I would not want to run a team without it.

I might also point out that I'm not really arguing warrior is superior in every respect since they lack range and aoe. I just feel like they are overall most solid class (again, this is coming from some1 who hasn't played very long. Please don't judge)

[ashwind]

Giants are the bane of the two-handed warrior, on any difficulty they will be pummeled into dust. while the sword and shield warrior takes almost no health damage with enough guard producing abilities.

 

Not true. A 2H champion solos giant for snacks. They are mobile treasure chest for me

 

p/s: They cant even dent my gaurd

[Molohk]

well obviously I was expecting to be wrong: my point being that taunt is such a powerful CC that I would not want to run a team without it.

I might also point out that I'm not really arguing warrior is superior in every respect since they lack range and aoe. I just feel like they are overall most solid class (again, this is coming from some1 who hasn't played very long. Please don't judge)

 

I didn't mean to be judgmental (if I did so). It's controversial to throw statements such as "two-handing warriors are simply better than other classes" when each class can arguably be claimed to be "best" at a certain aspect, and also personal preferences come into play. In a well balanced game, it's practically impossible to define what it means to be "the best class" or "the most solid class".

 

The game really changes when you get full specializations for your characters. A warrior templar is very different from a warrior reaver, just like a Rift Mage is different from a Knight Enchanter. I would advice to enjoy the game, and take your time to level up, play around with other characters to get an fuller idea of all the classes and specializations, and take it from there.

[WJC3688]

I haven't technically gone without a warrior, but my first game I ran a party with a 2H warrior with no taunting abilities what so ever (not even 1 point in vanguard tree) and still had no troubles on Hard. Even the catapult fight was quite easy, didn't even have to use a supply crate.

 

I dunno about the base skill trees, but the two most broken specializations (tempest and KE) are on other classes.